The Cosmic V

[Kaomea]

This is hilarious to watch the reactions of people. It's one thing to create content, beautiful in it's own right. It's an entirely different experience to see others perceive that content.

Ariana must have known she was stirring the pot with this one. Here Elders react hahaha.

[Kaomea]

Imagine the backlash from producing a video like this. Yet it only made her more popular. People LOVE her! They are celebrating her! It's a new age we live in and I'm impressed we made it this far. Like. Serious kudos to this babe for being a rockstar and trailblazer.

Here's the original video the Elders are reacting to:

[Julio Juliopolis]

Trailblazing? In 1992 Farrell was already trying to explain why feminists and the media could keep telling us God might be female, but never that Satan might. Anyone made the song "Satan is a woman" yet? Now that would be trailblazing with some great reactions!

[watergaze]

JJ, gotta have a continuity / causality. One starts with God then moves on to the rest of creation. The idea that Lucifer is a woman is not a new one either, just no songs yet I think. But there are movies . 1935: "Devil is a Woman". Or 1999: "The Ninth Gate" with Johnny Depp .

[Kaomea]

evil has been portrayed by many backgrounds.

JJ, one step at a time. First women get to be God. I'm sure she'll get bored and want to try on being Satan too. Shhh. Give things time to unfold. The treat of good storytelling is the buildup.

I promise, it only gets better. Satan will be coming round the corner when she comes. She'll be coming round the mountain when she comes, she'll be driving six white horses, she'll be wearing red pajamas, she'll have to sleep with grandma, we'll be singing Hallelujah, when she comes.

Yeehaw!

[Julio Juliopolis]

watergaze wrote:
JJ, gotta have a continuity / causality. One starts with God then moves on to the rest of creation. The idea that Lucifer is a woman is not a new one either, just no songs yet I think. But there are movies . 1935: "Devil is a Woman". Or 1999: "The Ninth Gate" with Johnny Depp .

Well, I could offer some speculation about the cause of the hypocrisy but I don't see how it would do any good. Mostly, I was just pointing out that labeling calling God a woman isn't really Trailblazing. As far as the idea of Satan being a woman, I guess I did exaggerate when I said it "never" happens. The fact that the two examples you came up with are from 19 and 83 years ago does show that it's pretty rare though.

Kaomea:

JJ, one step at a time. First women get to be God. I'm sure she'll get bored and want to try on being Satan too. 

I'm not so sure. Usually even when women do wicked things in real life they are the ones empathized with. She killed her baby? Oh she's a victim of post-something depression. She killed her husband? He must have done something terrible to drive her to that, the poor woman. It's the same refrain over and over. If she ever does play Satan then the very moment John Q Public says that Satan might be a woman it will be followed with "Satan is really just misunderstood. Actually, she's the victim..."

[Julio Juliopolis]

Speaking of God, I was remembering this scene from Bride of Re-Animator this morning. Classic scene.

[watergaze]

Unlike you, JJ, I do not burn to memory every male female issue marker. I mention the first movie cause the name is kinda perfectly fitting for the discussion and the second cause it is among my favorite movies. But I am sure you'd find more recent examples if you actually tried - and best try that before making unfounded claims (esp when you know they are unfounded)

[Kaomea]

Julio Juliopolis wrote:
Speaking of God, I was remembering this scene from Bride of Re-Animator this morning. Classic scene.

The tough part of being an inventor like him is that I always imagine the scene ending like this:

Men in suits and sunglasses enter his lab.  "Sir, my name is John Q Public.  Your creation is a matter of national security and we are taking her into custody."  

All that innovation, his blood and sweat, goes away.  No royalties, barely an acknowledgement, and JQP reaps all the rewards of playing with an incredible piece of art.  

Not even a thank you note gets sent to the inventor.  It's super tragic :/

A MILAB must be involved.  Those a-holes are always meddling in the affairs of muggles.

In all fairness, the inventor does get to know his hands played a part in molding something of such great significance. So there's that he earned a gold star, yay!

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