0ffshoot of Unbending intent

[watergaze]

(the two - the intent of the thread and being on topic - are related. e.g. not everything that can be interpreted as childish is OK to be in the thread called 'Childish'. Your thoughts on what is appropriate, e.g. what is rape, would have been much easier to respond to and go into if they had been in a different thread - the points you were making were not off or anything and they do belong here in the sorcery forum too - because they link to how one understands certain things, and can show the way one expands one's awareness/understanding etc.)

[watergaze]

Le_Regard wrote:I can respect that, but with the general caveat that sometimes the topic at hand is actual PEOPLE, not just a label on a filing cabinet, and sometimes talking to them AT ALL requires extraordinary measures, and also I see a "Forums" tab AND a "Discussions" tab on my screen for probably a good reason.  It's not a museum, you know?  You can't curate sorcery, it's too...  INTERSUBJECTIVE.  

Although I have actually met sorcerers whose day job was being a librarian before, and I know that's definitely a thing, so please trust me, because I don't usually go flying around knocking over bookshelves just for fun.
OK

(see, I wish I could have resisted answering you here hehehe... nobody is perfect . But I did want to say what I said here... and I get the people aspect, no worries on that account)

Sorcery is new to tapatalk. We did not have discussions tab before. But either way, when you are in a thread you see which subforum of forum it is in. And each forum has a certain well flavour. I understand it is harder for newcomers. On the yuku forum each section was pretty distinct, here its somehow much more the same.

Sorry rosy. I will get this talk off your thread tomorrow . I couldn't but help to correct Le_Regard on this thread owning comment. (Le, it's all explained in the rules and guidelines)

[Le_Regard]

And barring tragic accident I do usually pick them back up when I'm done with them, so...  no worries.

[rosygyro]

Brrrr.
Cannot attenuate a dual purpose corporeal exposure within human rights, tailoring hostility to energetic recapitulation tails whilst still keeping all rights intact.

It’s toooo cold.

[watergaze]

what an amazing picture

[Le_Regard]

Oh yeah, human rights is REALLY tough to sort out.

On one hand, it's like everyone is special and everyone matters, but on the other hand it's like at the end of the day Nature just sweeps them all up and destroys them indiscriminately.

[rosygyro]

I wonder if i am immpeccable enough to access totality from two different centre/ers within the timeline of the sorcerers world.
Many of us today were born too early to have arrived into technological saturation at birth.
some children today have never heard an acoustic instrument yet have racked up thousands of hours of digital sound to their ears.
If i could somehow move my totality so as to witness from a different point the totality then i could inhabit  the same section of the assembled world as those who have seen web technology arrive and also choose to witness the early stages of total immersion in technology as a fluid position on an interior timeline.
It could be powered by the potential energy a shared perception of the advance of technology has for the evolution of technology through people who develop technology.

[rosygyro]

or  we could have a spazmo contest.

Spazmo contest.... begin;

[rosygyro]

Le_Regard wrote:
Oh yeah, human rights is REALLY tough to sort out.

On one hand, it's like everyone is special and everyone matters, but on the other hand it's like at the end of the day Nature just sweeps them all up and destroys them indiscriminately.

Hey’

[Le_Regard]

rosygyro wrote:
I wonder if i am immpeccable enough to access totality from two different centre/ers within the timeline of the sorcerers world.
Many of us today were born too early to have arrived into technological saturation at birth.
some children today have never heard an acoustic instrument yet have racked up thousands of hours of digital sound to their ears.
If i could somehow move my totality so as to witness from a different point the totality then i could inhabit  the same section of the assembled world as those who have seen web technology arrive and also choose to witness the early stages of total immersion in technology as a fluid position on an interior timeline.
It could be powered by the potential energy a shared perception of the advance of technology has for the evolution of technology through people who develop technology.

Could you expand a bit more on technology?

If it's helpful, the Greek word techné just means a skill.  Like making shoes was "technology".  It's taken on a meaning these days like it DEFINITELY means robots, lol, robots robots robots, but I don't know, maybe it also means time travel.  Or maybe it means making really GREAT shoes, I don't know.  But my experience is that "technology" starts way earlier than people usually give it credit for.  You say "tech" at people they just think the internet.  And that's fine but...  making shoes is important too.

[Le_Regard]

And also if no one minds if I just start throwing out suggestions there are also some very nice Buddhist "techniques" for transforming suffering into compassion that I've at least read about on the internet, if that is something anyone might need a bit of a hand with at the moment.  And I suppose they could be translated into Toltec with a little bit of effort.

But maybe not, it could be dangerous, because maybe it involves drugs and human sacrifice or that weird thing that resembles modern basketball but people die at the end.  I don't know.  But I'm sure there's some kind of work around here.

[rosygyro]

Le_Regard wrote:
rosygyro wrote:
I wonder if i am immpeccable enough to access totality from two different centre/ers within the timeline of the sorcerers world.
Many of us today were born too early to have arrived into technological saturation at birth.
some children today have never heard an acoustic instrument yet have racked up thousands of hours of digital sound to their ears.
If i could somehow move my totality so as to witness from a different point the totality then i could inhabit  the same section of the assembled world as those who have seen web technology arrive and also choose to witness the early stages of total immersion in technology as a fluid position on an interior timeline.
It could be powered by the potential energy a shared perception of the advance of technology has for the evolution of technology through people who develop technology.

Could you expand a bit more on technology?

If it's helpful, the Greek word techné just means a skill.  Like making shoes was "technology".  It's taken on a meaning these days like it DEFINITELY means robots, lol, robots robots robots, but I don't know, maybe it also means time travel.  Or maybe it means making really GREAT shoes, I don't know.  But my experience is that "technology" starts way earlier than people usually give it credit for.  You say "tech" at people they just think the internet.  And that's fine but...  making shoes is important too.

Its just an extension of the same "russian roulette" metaphor i was using earlier, where the act understanding technology dually as both the mind that saw its birth and the mind that was born immersed we increase the potential of our species to survive this mind glitch (empty chanber) and not be extinct (live round)
i.e. we should be able to sense certain flows within the corporeal that are fluid but also life supportive.. we should know with the habitual assemblage core what is good for it even in its blindness.. and steer.

[Le_Regard]

Are you talking about basically STEERING the entire planet Earth?  Because that's ambitious of you.

[Pixie Dust]

Le_Regard wrote:
Are you talking about basically STEERING the entire planet Earth?  Because that's ambitious of you.

Don't worry.  It's a team effort.  The only "i" in TEAM is the a-hole.  There are minions who do the heavy steering.

Rosy may have meant that even during blindness people have a capacity to see. A sixth sense that helps steer them in a certain direction, unconsciously. Basically like being fated and then taking the necessary steps to help them achieve that destiny without having to be aware of the logistics for the entire time. We're guided by our mind and spirit.

There's things the spirit never forgets and we're drawn to people we've never known but always knew were out there. We are much more than our mind. We have a spirit telling us to remember.

Or that's just what my bible says.

I believe there's a lot we don't know in our restless slumber, but when we rise we begin to understand there's a grand design. The people we've loved, the lessons we learned, the paths we've walked, and the characters we played kept us on a trajectory. Everyone has their own trajectory and sometimes those paths keep crossing with others.

Why?

We are more than we think we are.

[Le_Regard]

Something very peculiar seems to have happened, and just for clarity, all this Jesus stuff going around is only TIPHARETH.

TIPHARETH, people.  Please do not be alarmed, order will resume momentarily.

[Le_Regard]

Ok.  So the one thing I must take issue with is the phrase "what is good for it even in its blindness".

I'm not convinced it is blind.

[Pixie Dust]

Le_Regard wrote:
Ok.  So the one thing I must take issue with is the phrase "what is good for it even in its blindness".

I'm not convinced it is blind.

Blindness is a temporary condition. Other senses kick in eventually.

[Le_Regard]

I'm just assuming that "habitual assemblage point" means basically the zeitgeist, the "where society is at right now".

But if you actually look into it turns out society is actually extremely powerful.  It's not blind and helpless at all.

[Pixie Dust]

The president leads the country, what leads society?

[Le_Regard]

So first of all, you're confusing The State with Civil Society.

[Le_Regard]

The State is a "superstructure" built on top of the material resources of Civil Society.

[Pixie Dust]

What's built on top the state?

[Le_Regard]

Hypothetically, I think it is supposed to be "Spirit".

[Le_Regard]

Probably more people would tell you: Science.

[Le_Regard]

Ok, so hypothetically, in an IDEAL WORLD, the state is in harmony with the cosmos and is just self-governing.  It just follows the Tao.