02-22-2011, 12:00 AM
Well we can measure time, even very precisely, and use these measurements in scientific exploration or just simply measure our day etc. The idea of time has become ubiquitous especially in this modern age, its with us all the time lol.
Concerning the first truth about awareness time would be one of those objects that DJ was referring to. If that can be accepted then its reality along with all other objects is questionable. ie; does time exist in and of itself or is it only noticeable in relation to other manifestation?
Enchantra doubts time’s independent existence because of the variable she experiences lead her to believe it is more a subjective thing.
Bob emphasizes time's existence because without it he could not safely cross the road, he needs it to judge distances and speeds etc.
Nu lang seems more concerned with the “conditioning” that time exacts upon us all and hold out the possibility that this grip of time can be broken and that is when the fun starts.
Well all of these perspectives are not untrue.
I know for myself there came a time (lol) when I had to question time. There is no doubt that time is an essential building block of how we assemble our perceivable worlds. It is such building blocks that need to be examined if we wish to unravel the appearance of objects.
It became very simple for me. No matter how refined our measurements of time are, ie; 24 hours in a day, 60 mins in an hour, 60 seconds in minute, and on and on.....at some point we have to accede that we are not capable of demonstrating that time ever began!
Now let that sink in for a minute (lol).
Now for the clever ones who may wish to isolate an event of any kind (a moment if you will) who might point to an event and say that it began precisely here or then, like say the sound of two hands clapping. Would say the moment the two hands touched with sufficient force a sound was produced and it happened at exactly midnight. It did not happen at 1 sec past midnight or 1 sec before but exactly midnight. Such a calculation is only possible theoretically. We cannot find the beginning of midnight or the end of the unit of time preceding midnight.
We can also apply this same insight to those those building blocks of perceived reality space and matter. The appearance of objects and the matter of which they are made is compounded and can be reduced to finer and finer particles until one eventually reaches space. So not only can we not isolate the beginning of an event in time we cannot in this case of two hands clapping, we cannot isolate the “edge” of either hand as we imagine them to touch!
So not only can we not find the beginning of time or any event that appears to be in time we cannot find the beginning of a single substance of anything. Also if something never began it cannot end. Only things that have a beginning are capable of ending.
Now I used the world simple earlier. I believe theses insights to be simple. However their implications are not they are complex. Most of us will not accede to time having no beginning and so we isolate ourselves from the delicious implications of the insight. Those that are able to to just stop at time having no beginning and cultivate the space of that insight without rushing to build on what are only assumptions we commonly hold about time will see the universe transform right before their eyes.
"Seeing is to lay bare the core of everything, to witness the unknown and to glimpse into the unknowable. As such, it does not bring one solace. Seers ordinarily go to pieces on finding out that existence is incomprehensibly complex and that normal awareness maligns it with limitations.” DJ, FFW
Concerning the first truth about awareness time would be one of those objects that DJ was referring to. If that can be accepted then its reality along with all other objects is questionable. ie; does time exist in and of itself or is it only noticeable in relation to other manifestation?
Enchantra doubts time’s independent existence because of the variable she experiences lead her to believe it is more a subjective thing.
Bob emphasizes time's existence because without it he could not safely cross the road, he needs it to judge distances and speeds etc.
Nu lang seems more concerned with the “conditioning” that time exacts upon us all and hold out the possibility that this grip of time can be broken and that is when the fun starts.
Well all of these perspectives are not untrue.
I know for myself there came a time (lol) when I had to question time. There is no doubt that time is an essential building block of how we assemble our perceivable worlds. It is such building blocks that need to be examined if we wish to unravel the appearance of objects.
It became very simple for me. No matter how refined our measurements of time are, ie; 24 hours in a day, 60 mins in an hour, 60 seconds in minute, and on and on.....at some point we have to accede that we are not capable of demonstrating that time ever began!
Now let that sink in for a minute (lol).
Now for the clever ones who may wish to isolate an event of any kind (a moment if you will) who might point to an event and say that it began precisely here or then, like say the sound of two hands clapping. Would say the moment the two hands touched with sufficient force a sound was produced and it happened at exactly midnight. It did not happen at 1 sec past midnight or 1 sec before but exactly midnight. Such a calculation is only possible theoretically. We cannot find the beginning of midnight or the end of the unit of time preceding midnight.
We can also apply this same insight to those those building blocks of perceived reality space and matter. The appearance of objects and the matter of which they are made is compounded and can be reduced to finer and finer particles until one eventually reaches space. So not only can we not isolate the beginning of an event in time we cannot in this case of two hands clapping, we cannot isolate the “edge” of either hand as we imagine them to touch!
So not only can we not find the beginning of time or any event that appears to be in time we cannot find the beginning of a single substance of anything. Also if something never began it cannot end. Only things that have a beginning are capable of ending.
Now I used the world simple earlier. I believe theses insights to be simple. However their implications are not they are complex. Most of us will not accede to time having no beginning and so we isolate ourselves from the delicious implications of the insight. Those that are able to to just stop at time having no beginning and cultivate the space of that insight without rushing to build on what are only assumptions we commonly hold about time will see the universe transform right before their eyes.
"Seeing is to lay bare the core of everything, to witness the unknown and to glimpse into the unknowable. As such, it does not bring one solace. Seers ordinarily go to pieces on finding out that existence is incomprehensibly complex and that normal awareness maligns it with limitations.” DJ, FFW