02-24-2011, 12:00 AM
Bob May wrote:
ninth octave wrote:
The thing that is astounding to me about time is every thing has already happened only we (earthlings) are the last to know about it.lol
Whatever happened in the opening second of the Big- Bang was already done and complete. We are living with in the drift and display of its aftermath. So basically everything was complete. I liken it to a flat 2 dimensional surface shaken up abruptly, as it quickly turns into the appearance of a dimensional scape. We are looking back into time every time we look at the stars. It is a freeze frame to our eternity.
I was complete
I am complete
I will be complete
In the New Testament there are "Gifts of the Spirit." Wisdom, Knowledge and Understanding are three of them.
My teacher had a definition for what he called the gift of Wisdom. It was "Knowing Without Having Known." He said it came like "remembering something", a thought full blown. I think he was talking about the gift of Knowledge. I think some, if not all, here have had similar experiences. But, be that as it may, ..What if it did/does not merely come to us like a memory but IS memory.
Job 38
Job 38:1
Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
Job 38:2
Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
Job 38:3
Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
Job 38:4
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Job 38:5
Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Job 38:6
Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
The "Lord" is speaking about Creation here and asking Job, "Where were you" when this was happening?
Many places in the bible where god or an angel of God comes to a person and calls their name, that person's first reaction is "Here am I."
Though Science can try to plumb the depths of Pure Existence Before/Beyond Creation, it cannot convey the Reality of it.
It has to be experienced in order to Know it.
I Am is both a title of God and a Spiritual Experience. And quite possibly a Memory.
And, by the way, it also seems to be the keeping of a promise;
Joh 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
ninth octave wrote:
The thing that is astounding to me about time is every thing has already happened only we (earthlings) are the last to know about it.lol
Whatever happened in the opening second of the Big- Bang was already done and complete. We are living with in the drift and display of its aftermath. So basically everything was complete. I liken it to a flat 2 dimensional surface shaken up abruptly, as it quickly turns into the appearance of a dimensional scape. We are looking back into time every time we look at the stars. It is a freeze frame to our eternity.
I was complete
I am complete
I will be complete
In the New Testament there are "Gifts of the Spirit." Wisdom, Knowledge and Understanding are three of them.
My teacher had a definition for what he called the gift of Wisdom. It was "Knowing Without Having Known." He said it came like "remembering something", a thought full blown. I think he was talking about the gift of Knowledge. I think some, if not all, here have had similar experiences. But, be that as it may, ..What if it did/does not merely come to us like a memory but IS memory.
Job 38
Job 38:1
Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
Job 38:2
Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
Job 38:3
Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
Job 38:4
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Job 38:5
Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Job 38:6
Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
The "Lord" is speaking about Creation here and asking Job, "Where were you" when this was happening?
Many places in the bible where god or an angel of God comes to a person and calls their name, that person's first reaction is "Here am I."
Though Science can try to plumb the depths of Pure Existence Before/Beyond Creation, it cannot convey the Reality of it.
It has to be experienced in order to Know it.
I Am is both a title of God and a Spiritual Experience. And quite possibly a Memory.
And, by the way, it also seems to be the keeping of a promise;
Joh 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.