01-05-2009, 12:00 AM
Bob May wrote:
So this plane, the physical plane, is the beginning of the "Infernal Tree". And ruled by a world system which is governed by demons. Which, by the
way, explains somewhat why Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world."
The belief is that because of the Fall, the universe is "out of balance" but that the lower planes will at some time be absorbed, so to speak.
Energy being what it is, nothing will be lost, just changed. This will restore the balance. The lower planes and their inhabitants will also be absorbed.
And so there are "permanent" and "temporal" planes. The permanent planes are referred to as heaven or heavens and the temporary as Earth.
The Goal, in effect, is to escape the temporary planes. Demons do not have that choice because they were cast out because of pride (self-importance) and lost
their first estate. That is why they hate humanity. Because they know that they have but a short time, whereas humanity has a choice.
...what is your source of Power?" ... When I stopped the world, many years ago it was a frightening experience. Reaffirmations became constant and the
main question on my mind was, who is sending the messages?
This may be the crux of the issue here.
Who is sending the messages?
What is your source of Power?
It may very well be that the answer may be different for different individuals.
It may also be different for the same individuals at different times of their lives.
Later on in another reply you mention:
More like, Be careful what you wish for because you may be getting something different and thinking you are getting what you asked
for.
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You are very wise, for very few ever reach this point of understanding and knowledge. I believe many, once they have left this earth, will be surprised when
their spirits are alligned with those things that they worshipped as their "God" while here on this plane. It is in effect, the law of restoration
at play, through our own individual choices. We will be in a familiar surroundings with people who thoughts and choices are like ours. In this plane (earth),
it is also what we chose to side with. We will be with the thought systems and values we cherish and uphold. Quite simple really. But many do not understand
the eternal repercussions of this simple truth and yet is simply where we would feel most comfortable.
Add to all of this your quote "Your line about Be careful what you wish for because you may be getting something different and thinking you are getting
what you asked for." And two eternal counsels come to mind. When Jesus said: "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth
unto life, and few there be that find it." "Woe unto them that call evil good and good evil; that put darkness for light and light for darkness,
bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! It takes true and sound wisdom to be able to discern these things. Many will be deceived and will pass into the next
realm unprepared!
So this plane, the physical plane, is the beginning of the "Infernal Tree". And ruled by a world system which is governed by demons. Which, by the
way, explains somewhat why Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world."
The belief is that because of the Fall, the universe is "out of balance" but that the lower planes will at some time be absorbed, so to speak.
Energy being what it is, nothing will be lost, just changed. This will restore the balance. The lower planes and their inhabitants will also be absorbed.
And so there are "permanent" and "temporal" planes. The permanent planes are referred to as heaven or heavens and the temporary as Earth.
The Goal, in effect, is to escape the temporary planes. Demons do not have that choice because they were cast out because of pride (self-importance) and lost
their first estate. That is why they hate humanity. Because they know that they have but a short time, whereas humanity has a choice.
...what is your source of Power?" ... When I stopped the world, many years ago it was a frightening experience. Reaffirmations became constant and the
main question on my mind was, who is sending the messages?
This may be the crux of the issue here.
Who is sending the messages?
What is your source of Power?
It may very well be that the answer may be different for different individuals.
It may also be different for the same individuals at different times of their lives.
Later on in another reply you mention:
More like, Be careful what you wish for because you may be getting something different and thinking you are getting what you asked
for.
-------------------------
You are very wise, for very few ever reach this point of understanding and knowledge. I believe many, once they have left this earth, will be surprised when
their spirits are alligned with those things that they worshipped as their "God" while here on this plane. It is in effect, the law of restoration
at play, through our own individual choices. We will be in a familiar surroundings with people who thoughts and choices are like ours. In this plane (earth),
it is also what we chose to side with. We will be with the thought systems and values we cherish and uphold. Quite simple really. But many do not understand
the eternal repercussions of this simple truth and yet is simply where we would feel most comfortable.
Add to all of this your quote "Your line about Be careful what you wish for because you may be getting something different and thinking you are getting
what you asked for." And two eternal counsels come to mind. When Jesus said: "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth
unto life, and few there be that find it." "Woe unto them that call evil good and good evil; that put darkness for light and light for darkness,
bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! It takes true and sound wisdom to be able to discern these things. Many will be deceived and will pass into the next
realm unprepared!