07-21-2012, 12:11 AM
quantumshaman wrote:If you're looking only for theoretical or theological comments, here's a thought:
The dissolution into "pure light" occurs when one achieves the totality of himself. Most of the major "religions" actually do not prepare their followers for that kind of transition, so most religious fruitcakes probably won't make it out of their body, let alone inhabit their totality. As far as I've been able to discern, Castaneda comes the closest to describing the actual process of transformation/transition/transcendence/transmogrification. My own conclusion is as follows:
The mortal self is the source, who creates/projects the double. The double is (or becomes) the energetic vessel capable of housing consciosness when the mortal body "dies" (whatever that ultimately means). To inhabit the totality of oneself is to merge awareness with mortal self and immortal double, thereby creating the "singularity of consciousness" or the super-position of the assemblage point.
The rest is just window dressing and religious mumbo jumbo. Yes, it is a scientific process, but most humans need to be brought to it through meta-physics rather than quantum physics. Why? Because they are human and humans have feelings which must be considered as part of the equation. So we talk about falling in love with the double or the realm of the inorganics, but ultimately... it is what it is, and yes, it is science. But presenting it AS science really doesn't seem to get one very far. I should know.
good points QS.
the continuation of that.. ordinary guy dies and his energy body is doing the "rebirth", the soul moves somewhere (where it was gravitating) and rises.
so the "Gravitation" of the energy/intent is the issue here.
The dissolution into "pure light" occurs when one achieves the totality of himself. Most of the major "religions" actually do not prepare their followers for that kind of transition, so most religious fruitcakes probably won't make it out of their body, let alone inhabit their totality. As far as I've been able to discern, Castaneda comes the closest to describing the actual process of transformation/transition/transcendence/transmogrification. My own conclusion is as follows:
The mortal self is the source, who creates/projects the double. The double is (or becomes) the energetic vessel capable of housing consciosness when the mortal body "dies" (whatever that ultimately means). To inhabit the totality of oneself is to merge awareness with mortal self and immortal double, thereby creating the "singularity of consciousness" or the super-position of the assemblage point.
The rest is just window dressing and religious mumbo jumbo. Yes, it is a scientific process, but most humans need to be brought to it through meta-physics rather than quantum physics. Why? Because they are human and humans have feelings which must be considered as part of the equation. So we talk about falling in love with the double or the realm of the inorganics, but ultimately... it is what it is, and yes, it is science. But presenting it AS science really doesn't seem to get one very far. I should know.
good points QS.
the continuation of that.. ordinary guy dies and his energy body is doing the "rebirth", the soul moves somewhere (where it was gravitating) and rises.
so the "Gravitation" of the energy/intent is the issue here.