12-24-2009, 12:00 AM
Hey Mothsdream,
I definitely appreciate your input and I am concerned about those inorganics and I will keep your advice in mind, and I am not all that concerned whether they
are human though or not, based on where my research has lead me, the universe is a huge place and there are many non-humans out there indeed whether on the 3D
plane or 4D and beyond, such as what some call light beings, to be honest I liken or compare the inorganics to the grays (ET's) because many experiencers
say they come in their dreams and do things to them in that dream world so to speak, in my opinion everything seems to have some kind of technology behind it
including the subject at hand which is dreams, if you look at a human, it is perhaps one of the most technological things there is and from my research there
are many kinds that have different capabilities, for some human or non-human there is no right or wrong or good or bad, so I do understand what your saying
about appearances, but I do believe in different driving forces or motivations such as love, hate, need, greed, ignorance, hunger and so on which is something
I believe is possible with any type of inorganic, I dont think there is just one kind but that is my opinion of course.
As far as my notes on the book,
For me it is not hard to believe in something that we cannot see, such as wind, radio waves, sound, electric currents and so on and that same theory would go
for other dimensions and attentions, just because I cannot see them does not mean they are not there, I think your right, it is better to be prepared than not.
I understand there is no choice on our limited end (for now), perhaps it comes down to attraction, like fishing either for us or them, our bait or their bait
and who cast the line (or filament) but either way I want to be prepared and I dont want to be in a box of one finalized belief.
I finished the book today and came to realize he only describes four gates of dreaming, a little bit of a let down for me, I must say I am intrigued with the
whole shape shifting thing, from man to woman, but there is also where I think a little different, I think that is too shallow of a description from carlos or
don juan, I think perhaps to think in terms of feminine or masculine and not man or woman, that is too simple.
anyway, I am going to move on to other dreaming books, my goal is taking control of my dreams while in the dreaming state as well as astral travel or astral
projection, I want to be aware of myself while I am dreaming and direct myself and not let the stream take me where it may or at least be able to swim in the
stream if that makes sense.
anyway, thanks everyone for your input so far, I will continue to put more notes in here, as far as this book goes, perhaps I will start a new thread on just
plain dreaming research.
I definitely appreciate your input and I am concerned about those inorganics and I will keep your advice in mind, and I am not all that concerned whether they
are human though or not, based on where my research has lead me, the universe is a huge place and there are many non-humans out there indeed whether on the 3D
plane or 4D and beyond, such as what some call light beings, to be honest I liken or compare the inorganics to the grays (ET's) because many experiencers
say they come in their dreams and do things to them in that dream world so to speak, in my opinion everything seems to have some kind of technology behind it
including the subject at hand which is dreams, if you look at a human, it is perhaps one of the most technological things there is and from my research there
are many kinds that have different capabilities, for some human or non-human there is no right or wrong or good or bad, so I do understand what your saying
about appearances, but I do believe in different driving forces or motivations such as love, hate, need, greed, ignorance, hunger and so on which is something
I believe is possible with any type of inorganic, I dont think there is just one kind but that is my opinion of course.
As far as my notes on the book,
For me it is not hard to believe in something that we cannot see, such as wind, radio waves, sound, electric currents and so on and that same theory would go
for other dimensions and attentions, just because I cannot see them does not mean they are not there, I think your right, it is better to be prepared than not.
I understand there is no choice on our limited end (for now), perhaps it comes down to attraction, like fishing either for us or them, our bait or their bait
and who cast the line (or filament) but either way I want to be prepared and I dont want to be in a box of one finalized belief.
I finished the book today and came to realize he only describes four gates of dreaming, a little bit of a let down for me, I must say I am intrigued with the
whole shape shifting thing, from man to woman, but there is also where I think a little different, I think that is too shallow of a description from carlos or
don juan, I think perhaps to think in terms of feminine or masculine and not man or woman, that is too simple.
anyway, I am going to move on to other dreaming books, my goal is taking control of my dreams while in the dreaming state as well as astral travel or astral
projection, I want to be aware of myself while I am dreaming and direct myself and not let the stream take me where it may or at least be able to swim in the
stream if that makes sense.
anyway, thanks everyone for your input so far, I will continue to put more notes in here, as far as this book goes, perhaps I will start a new thread on just
plain dreaming research.

