Unbending intent versus being stubborn, willfull and ignorant.

[rosygyro]

please be creative. Take a seat.

[rosygyro]

man i dont give a **** about the kuedos you award yourself for twisting others minds into respecting your opinion.
you have spent so long fighting a war of will over each others belief that you cant even SEE when someone isnt trying to 
mess with your mind.

put it like this..
with my knowledge you have the OPTION of belief.
there is no i "want" you to believe.

milky snowflake

[Pixie Dust]

A snowflake is so preciously delicate.  Each one so different than others like it.  All made with the same ingredients but expressed in so many ways.  To know one snowflake is to know them all, even without seeing their true design.  A single snowflake is beautiful, yet fragile.  Collectively they become a force of nature. 

Some researchers enjoy studying various butterflies.  I've found myself to be more of a snowflake person.  When you look with a high enough magnification, snowflakes are the most beautiful things ever seen.  Specks of beauty only noticed by those who gaze carefully.  

It's a lovely world once one gains enough magnification to see beyond.

[Pixie Dust]

As for the ignorant who: wear white gowns to hide as they murder, hunt witches, or kill anyone who goes against the church...

[Le_Regard]

rosygyro wrote:
man i dont give a **** about the kuedos you award yourself for twisting others minds into respecting your opinion.
you have spent so long fighting a war of will over each others belief that you cant even SEE when someone isnt trying to 
mess with your mind.

put it like this..
with my knowledge you have the OPTION of belief.
there is no i "want" you to believe.

milky snowflake

The way you say "my knowledge" is very interesting.

If you in actual fact have Knowledge, Wisdom, and Understanding, then you should write a book, or at least publish a blog, instead of snipping up bits of other peoples ideas and clustering them around you like an ego held together by spider webs.

Believe it or not, I'm trying to be compassionate.

If you have something that can benefit the world, please share it.  But I don't think you can right now, because if you try you might find your "Knowledge" isn't actually organized into any kind of science and it's just a hot mess that no one Understands but you.

[Pixie Dust]

I quite enjoyed Rosy's last book.  Captured my heart it did.  Wolf's book on poetry was exquisite.  Dreamlyn's art is wonderfully indescribable.  We're fortunate to have so many talented artists who explore their perspectives deeply and share their findings.  Those who use their imagination to express and explore hold tremendous power.

[Le_Regard]

Could you provide a link to this book? I do not see it, and it doesn't turn up on google.

What does turn up on google is this: be-brave-show-us-yer-tonal-show-is-yer- ... t6380.html

Is "show us yer tonal" too much to ask here?

[Le_Regard]

Let me try and back up for a second.

I think it's well known that Carlos Castaneda, the actual person, demonstrated his mastery of the Tonal by earning a PhD in anthropology from UCLA. So maybe my standards are a little bit too high...

[Pixie Dust]

Rosy is more than his cover.  Some authors only reveal themselves to the audience of their choosing.  Although a skilled observer will read between the lines.  Whatever the case, perhaps Rosy's book is not for you there are million more libraries to peruse.  

Sometimes even the author experiences self-discovery.  Anyway, I spoke of Rosy's book in a figurative manner, not a literal manner.  On the other hand, maybe he has written a book and I'm merely unaware of it.  All it would take is to print out what he's written and glue some pages together; self-publishing is a growing trend.  It's possible he has written books and I'd be none the wiser.

Standards are a funny thing.  The intellect is only one component of knowledge.  People, like Rosy, have a tendency to have a lot of heart.  Carlos possessed multiple aspects of knowledge (the intellect was one aspect).  There is more to the self than the mind.  Your standards aren't too high, they appear rather low.

[Le_Regard]

Pixie Dust wrote: ↑<span class="timespan" title="5:19 PM - Nov 02, 2017">Nov 02, 2017</span>
Rosy is more than his cover.  Some authors only reveal themselves to the audience of their choosing.  Although a skilled observer will read between the lines.  Whatever the case, perhaps Rosy's book is not for you there are million more libraries to peruse.  

Sometimes even the author experiences self-discovery.  Anyway, I spoke of Rosy's book in a figurative manner, not a literal manner.  On the other hand, maybe he has written a book and I'm merely unaware of it.  All it would take is to print out what he's written and glue some pages together; self-publishing is a growing trend.  It's possible he has written books and I'd be none the wiser.

Standards are a funny thing.  The intellect is only one component of knowledge.  People, like Rosy, have a tendency to have a lot of heart.  Carlos possessed multiple aspects of knowledge (the intellect was one aspect).  There is more to the self than the mind.  Your standards aren't too high, they appear rather low.

I notice as I type this, on a keyboard, in 2017, into a text window that's really javascript or something, I just cannot get passed a prejudice that things that are on google are somehow REALER than things that are not on google...

[Le_Regard]

I notice as I type this, on a keyboard, in 2017, into a text window that's really javascript or something, I just cannot get passed a prejudice that things that are on google are somehow REALER than things that are not on google...
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[Le_Regard]

[Pixie Dust]

Technology is magic. The most magical of shamans are skilled in many realms of science.

You've been blessed by the all seeing eye, I see. Most things and people have a real and fake side. To find the real, one must push at the fake. Knowing how and where to push helps too. Life is one big Easter egg of mystery.

[Le_Regard]

Oh... finding the real. 

I took that picture from my work desk. I actually sit in front of this for about 8 hours a day, in exchange for US dollars.  (It doesn't normally show that picture.) So I'm sorry, but it's not as simple as shamaning and magicking and wishing for things.

I suppose you could make an argument that trading my time and energy in exchange for US dollars is a properly magical act, and that the 8 hours I spend is in fact a RITUAL SACRIFICE, if you like... but that rings a bit hollow to me.

I suppose it's possible that some sorcerers are actually robots, or spiritual beings that llve on air and sunlight, or do not require bodies at all... but I imagine the vast majority need material support to continue their shamaning habit.

[Pixie Dust]

That's the best kept secret of it all. Reality is what you believe it to be. Spin reality how you want and it will be true for you.

Also, that's great you have a job. I sit around all day and collect residual income. Less work that way. Work smarter not harder?

Shamans wear many hats, masks, and forms. Many shamans are hippies. There are a few deviants though. Rebels who tinker in opposing fields.

They're special.

[Pixie Dust]

I hope you don't have cooties

[Le_Regard]

Pixie Dust wrote:
That's the best kept secret of it all.  Reality is what you believe it to be.  Spin reality how you want and it will be true for you.  

Also, that's great you have a job.  I sit around all day and collect residual income.  Less work that way.  Work smarter not harder?

Shamans wear many hats, masks, and forms.  Many shamans are hippies.  There are a few deviants though.  Rebels who tinker in opposing fields.  

They're special.

If reality is what you believe it to be, then please give me all of your money.  You can believe yourself some more.

I've been watching US politics relatively closely in the last year or so and I believe very strongly in telling you that NO, you CAN'T just spin reality however you want, and this is IMPORTANT.

[serloco]

I just cast a command on my bank account, and gave myself $240 extra dollars. So yeah..

[serloco]

Le_Regard wrote:
Pixie Dust wrote:
That's the best kept secret of it all.  Reality is what you believe it to be.  Spin reality how you want and it will be true for you.  

Also, that's great you have a job.  I sit around all day and collect residual income.  Less work that way.  Work smarter not harder?

Shamans wear many hats, masks, and forms.  Many shamans are hippies.  There are a few deviants though.  Rebels who tinker in opposing fields.  

They're special.

If reality is what you believe it to be, then please give me all of your money.  You can believe yourself some more.

I've been watching US politics relatively closely in the last year or so and I believe very strongly in telling you that NO, you CAN'T just spin reality however you want, and this is IMPORTANT.

Reality is intent/will. If you intend "cant" then cant is what you get. If you 'spin' that outlook around, then you get "can". Intending ability as opposed to disability is a lot more productive.

[Le_Regard]

I believe very strongly, for very personal as well as historical reasons, that no matter what you believe or wish or think or will, it is entirely possible that one day you will be drafted into an Army entirely against that will, and your Commanding Officer will helpfully TELL YOU the left and right limits of your reality.

[Le_Regard]

serloco wrote:
Le_Regard wrote:
Pixie Dust wrote:
That's the best kept secret of it all.  Reality is what you believe it to be.  Spin reality how you want and it will be true for you.  

Also, that's great you have a job.  I sit around all day and collect residual income.  Less work that way.  Work smarter not harder?

Shamans wear many hats, masks, and forms.  Many shamans are hippies.  There are a few deviants though.  Rebels who tinker in opposing fields.  

They're special.

If reality is what you believe it to be, then please give me all of your money.  You can believe yourself some more.

I've been watching US politics relatively closely in the last year or so and I believe very strongly in telling you that NO, you CAN'T just spin reality however you want, and this is IMPORTANT.

Reality is intent/will. If you intend "cant" then cant is what you get. If you 'spin' that outlook around, then you get "can". Intending ability as opposed to disability is a lot more productive. 

Wheat does not grow because a farmer INTENDS it.

If you can't accept that wheat is real, people eat it, and their bodies will die without it, so WHO GROWS IT and how much it costs is IMPORTANT, then we can just agree to live on different planets.

[serloco]

You are wrong. Wheat grows because wheat intends to grow, so do the formers who grow it intend for it to grow. We have knowledge of the wheat, and that knowledge  is intended into formation. That is not to say this knowledge can not be modified. Because it can. My trees grow super fast because I do magic on them. New branches can take 5 seconds to grow on them. That is because I intend for it to be so with my specialised "out of this world" knowledge.

[Le_Regard]

Le_Regard wrote:
serloco wrote:
Le_Regard wrote:


If reality is what you believe it to be, then please give me all of your money.  You can believe yourself some more.

I've been watching US politics relatively closely in the last year or so and I believe very strongly in telling you that NO, you CAN'T just spin reality however you want, and this is IMPORTANT.

Reality is intent/will. If you intend "cant" then cant is what you get. If you 'spin' that outlook around, then you get "can". Intending ability as opposed to disability is a lot more productive. 

Wheat does not grow because a farmer INTENDS it.

If you can't accept that wheat is real, people eat it, and their bodies will die without it, so WHO GROWS IT and how much it costs is IMPORTANT, then we can just agree to live on different planets.

I would also like to mention in passing that everything I just said about wheat is also true about children.

[serloco]

You see we have two categories on THIS planet's thread. The ones with unbending INTENT, and then we have the stubborn and ignorant.

[Pixie Dust]

serloco wrote:
You see we have two categories on THIS planet's thread. The ones with unbending INTENT, and then we have the stubborn and ignorant.