Unbending intent versus being stubborn, willfull and ignorant.

[Le_Regard]

rosygyro wrote:
Le_Regard wrote:
Also just as an aside, I'd love to discuss anti-semitism with you and racism in general.

thoughts on racism...
the soul style which perpetuates or perpetrates rape came into being at the time of the splitting of the sexes
and way way before any variation into different tribes of colour or race.
meaning that in all corners of the world there exist "carriers" of the barbaric root of humanity.

I do not believe racism is an indepth view of humanity ..

consider a car crusher that senses when someone is in a car and will not crush it...
consider this car crusher comes from a future where everything is wonderfull and pedophilies and rapists dont exist

it is a fact that it does not recognise pedophiles or rapists as humans
and simply crushes such cars with no consience.

unless there is an innocent in the car.

not racism.

I'm pretty sure where you're going with the car crushing thing is "human" is just a concept.  The car crushing machine would have a category "human" and it would NOT crush anything matching that description.

It's an old school science fiction concept actually, Asimov's "First Law of Robots" or something like that: Robots Will Not Harm Humans.

Then of course the robots find clever ways to get around it.

[Le_Regard]

rosygyro wrote:
Le_Regard wrote:
Let me try and back up for a second.

I think it's well known that Carlos Castaneda, the actual person, demonstrated his mastery of the Tonal by earning a PhD in anthropology from UCLA.  So maybe my standards are a little bit too high...

Although this may sound like an excuse for my appalling level of academia- here goes.

When i began studying the habitual assemblage point and the energetic of social conditioning
i was a learner guitar playing, art drawing. yoga massage crystal reiki bit of everything person who was quite set upon becoming
a person of knowledge..
However one particularly creative guitar session in noticed a sneer arrive on my lip.. a twist of musical finnesse that i could feel in the muscles over my left cheekbone..
I decided at that point to never become so skilled at guitar that i could validate the smile of a style wanker.

I went to a king yong quang chu martial art class.. and felt my body twist into something not only more ready for violence but also less likely to try and see anothers point of view .. and so i swore to not study any violence.
It got to the point i could no longer go to the gym as i would immediatly see a smug beach bod wannabe laughing at me in the mirror.

One by one i realised that all the skillsets i had access to were in fact ego..
and one by one my options for making a statement through such skills closed their doors.


when it came to the teachings of don julian and theun mares, the centre of decisions of don juan and the papier mache tomb of casteneda.. i found less limitation
for the habitual assemblage point and its ego were less evident in its DOINGS.
i experimented with schizophrenia and underworld alignements, i prostated myself before parralel worlds and made promises of mortality.

I am naturally talented in a few areas of a life that would please my ego..
and these areas i have allowed to attrophy as protest to TONAL ease.
as i attrophied certain aspects of my talent i always remained in intent the art of original thought
and personal philosophy.
Part of my pledge was of course to keep it away from the social platforms of ego and so i kept it privated
in terms of ever being recognised as something "cool".
thats because none of what i am saying is connected to desire to be cool.. NOTHING.

I am the introverted , crippled shy kid who begs to be on stage yet loathes to have an audience.

I am not doing this because i desire or will the natural consequences of others belief
i am doing it out of intent that drags me as unwanting victim into the glare.

Question..
If you won a competion for a $100,000 boob job.. non transferable to anyone else.
would you claim the prize?
( i am presuming you are a man who doesnt really want a humungous pair of fake tits)
.....................

MY PHILOSOPHY is very well positioned.. However far from lending eloquence to my writing
it simply sits as PRIME.. my writing subjective.

when i am dead my learning of literacy will be stripped from me, all letters will lose meaning, all colors will have no word.

My philosophy will remain positioned.
It would be a crying shame for my awareness to be attatched to the minds prowess when the mind is inturned.
...
Sorry.

Are you saying the boob job cost $100,000, or that I'd be paid $100,000 for the boob job?

I would say no to a free boob job, but if, I don't know, some kind of feminist art collective or something offered me at least a million or two I'd do the full sex change operation.  I'd do it for less but I need to be set up for retirement because I don't want to have deal with corporate job interviews after being an internet celebrity like I would instantly become if I really did this.

It would be best if I had a female partner at the time who could sex change with me, switch genders together, because I also wouldn't want to deal with dating after that.

Wait, would they also make me a BEAUTIFUL woman?  I'd have to really think about that.  I don't think I'd want to be an ugly woman who looks like a man, I just don't see the point of the experiment if I do it that way.

[Le_Regard]

rosygyro wrote:
Le_Regard wrote:
Let me try and back up for a second.

I think it's well known that Carlos Castaneda, the actual person, demonstrated his mastery of the Tonal by earning a PhD in anthropology from UCLA.  So maybe my standards are a little bit too high...

Although this may sound like an excuse for my appalling level of academia- here goes.

When i began studying the habitual assemblage point and the energetic of social conditioning
i was a learner guitar playing, art drawing. yoga massage crystal reiki bit of everything person who was quite set upon becoming
a person of knowledge..
However one particularly creative guitar session in noticed a sneer arrive on my lip.. a twist of musical finnesse that i could feel in the muscles over my left cheekbone..
I decided at that point to never become so skilled at guitar that i could validate the smile of a style wanker.

I went to a king yong quang chu martial art class.. and felt my body twist into something not only more ready for violence but also less likely to try and see anothers point of view .. and so i swore to not study any violence.
It got to the point i could no longer go to the gym as i would immediatly see a smug beach bod wannabe laughing at me in the mirror.

One by one i realised that all the skillsets i had access to were in fact ego..
and one by one my options for making a statement through such skills closed their doors.


when it came to the teachings of don julian and theun mares, the centre of decisions of don juan and the papier mache tomb of casteneda.. i found less limitation
for the habitual assemblage point and its ego were less evident in its DOINGS.
i experimented with schizophrenia and underworld alignements, i prostated myself before parralel worlds and made promises of mortality.

I am naturally talented in a few areas of a life that would please my ego..
and these areas i have allowed to attrophy as protest to TONAL ease.
as i attrophied certain aspects of my talent i always remained in intent the art of original thought
and personal philosophy.
Part of my pledge was of course to keep it away from the social platforms of ego and so i kept it privated
in terms of ever being recognised as something "cool".
thats because none of what i am saying is connected to desire to be cool.. NOTHING.

I am the introverted , crippled shy kid who begs to be on stage yet loathes to have an audience.

I am not doing this because i desire or will the natural consequences of others belief
i am doing it out of intent that drags me as unwanting victim into the glare.

Question..
If you won a competion for a $100,000 boob job.. non transferable to anyone else.
would you claim the prize?
( i am presuming you are a man who doesnt really want a humungous pair of fake tits)
.....................

MY PHILOSOPHY is very well positioned.. However far from lending eloquence to my writing
it simply sits as PRIME.. my writing subjective.

when i am dead my learning of literacy will be stripped from me, all letters will lose meaning, all colors will have no word.

My philosophy will remain positioned.
It would be a crying shame for my awareness to be attatched to the minds prowess when the mind is inturned.
...
Sorry.

So there's a Tantric story about these two guys that kept getting thrown off their horses.

So the first guy keeps getting thrown off his horse, so he beats the **** out of his horse and doesn't feed it enough so the horse is too weak to throw him off anymore.

The second guy keeps getting thrown off his horse, so he resolves to get stronger and get better at horse riding.

Both ways work.

I think not pursuing the development of your natural talents is basically like wearing a hairshirt and whipping yourself.  I don't want to do that -- I don't think it's awesome -- but there's a long and noble history of people wearing hairshirts and whipping themselves and I'm not quick to disrespect that.  http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07113b.htm

[rosygyro]

Do you think it is correct for a person to consider the development of qualities in which they are naturally talented to be a heart path?

I would call it the development of qualities in areas of natural talent- no more.
..........................

Not doing-- is quite a lot about unlearning the social conditioning that arrives deceptivly easily.
the portion of self deception that was naturally talented at gaining a foothold in awareness.
the flyer is the parasite that will grow symbioticly with your own developing ego.
and like spidermans "venom".. will inhabit your socially acceptable powers more readily than your own freedom.
.........................................
those who are spiritually possessed cannot differentiate between themselves and the awareness that has taken over...
social conditioning and self development are very closely linked.
...............

Its a moot comment anyway..
I am not advocating self destruction and deliberate ignorance
just that there can be a deliberate trade off between living in natural grace
and foresaking natural grace so as to facillitate alternate perception in the absence of
traps endemic to ego.
.......... 

not that i feel particularly skilled in any wierd or wonderful way, all i have done is develop a philosophy that has no bearing.
fine as far as slipping past the eagle.. great for that..
thing is i want to continue the work to trigger a shift in the actual and total habitual
and not just escape.

as far as FEAR goes..
i am pretty terrified of the world accessing the void in a singular perception of time..

[rosygyro]

Le_Regard wrote:
rosygyro wrote:
Le_Regard wrote:
Also just as an aside, I'd love to discuss anti-semitism with you and racism in general.

thoughts on racism...
the soul style which perpetuates or perpetrates rape came into being at the time of the splitting of the sexes
and way way before any variation into different tribes of colour or race.
meaning that in all corners of the world there exist "carriers" of the barbaric root of humanity.

I do not believe racism is an indepth view of humanity ..

consider a car crusher that senses when someone is in a car and will not crush it...
consider this car crusher comes from a future where everything is wonderfull and pedophilies and rapists dont exist

it is a fact that it does not recognise pedophiles or rapists as humans
and simply crushes such cars with no consience.

unless there is an innocent in the car.

not racism.

I'm pretty sure where you're going with the car crushing thing is "human" is just a concept.  The car crushing machine would have a category "human" and it would NOT crush anything matching that description.

It's an old school science fiction concept actually, Asimov's "First Law of Robots" or something like that: Robots Will Not Harm Humans.

Then of course the robots find clever ways to get around it.

So..
I am sitting here with freshly spun cylindered gun to my head, it contains one bullet and five empty chambers.
Not  a classic game of russian roulette as its just me and i can spin the cylinder as many times as i like as long as i pull the trigger before sunrise.

"potential energy" is such that the future of my awareness osscillates between being blatted out into dispersal or perpetually grinding through life in my body for at least a bit longer.

its the difference between having one step of life left and a 1000km walk in front of you.

I "should" be able to detect which future i have.

in a recapitulation body sense.. one day i "should be able to rememember playing the game and surviving, OR this could be the beginning of my recapitulation proper.

i should be able to sense wether i have no more steps available to walk in the right way.. or will have many glorious footsteps ahead.
....................

That aside.. our planet has possibly 5 years left of human life.. or it has possibly 500 or 5000 years of human life on it.
The extension of time and awarness is the EAST in terms of the wheel. it is the FUTURE.
Although the arrival of machines/gun happened 200+ years ago.. the development of non racist machines that crush pedophiles as if they are not human can only happen in the future.
50 years. 500 years, 5000 years?
..........
while the chambers are still spinning on our planetary outlook it seems fairly obvious that should our planet stop having a sex trafficking habit. , or a violently abusive controlling capitalistic force running it that our planet will survive for longer than just 5 years..

the gun we hold is crude and already made in part by our inherited known.
were it a device that facillitated potential energy it would never allow a live round inline with hammer.

were it a device that facillitated potential energy it would sometimes allow a live round in line with hammer
depending upon the head at the end of the barrel.

if manifestation and premanifestation is to be believed..
all old colts are the inorganic ancestors of future colts..
the longer the future the older the ancestor..
the longer the future.. the more discerning the eventual gun.
the longer the future.. the better if the gun behaves according to its potential evolution beyond 5 years.

i think the gun is afraid of change.
...........................

people dont kill people - guns do (potentially)

note- 
At no point is this an encouragement of the practice of killing pedophiles, the game is russian roulette.
At no point is this an attempt to trick the mechanism, the rule is potential energy.
The Gun is an example of a pre-existent inherited mechanism, whos own potential change
is dependant upon human evolution beyond current collectivly self destructive trends.





Of course if we take the gun out of the equation and just look at the different Chakra arrangements, its quite clear that inside every living beings meridians is a simple KILLSWITCH in terms of what they are able to perpetuate in awareness..
If our meridian systems were classicly arranged like curcuit boards it would be clear that some people have missing diodes
or linkages in the curcuit which do not represent the overall functioning of the human species as an evolving unit.
The gun, the chambers, the trigger the skull are all a part of the individuals system.

I held a 6month old baby girl when i was 16.. it caused no great fruedian calamity for me.
18 years later we were sexual partners..

had i been a SEER.. whos perceptive arrangement was misaligned i could have mistaken 
the very real potential for our eventual sexual union in 18 years time as a sexual attraction then.
for it certainly eventually became true. its just that the timing of potential would have been wrong.
i would have taken the truth of our sexual potential in totality and applied it in the present with disasterous consequences.
sexual energy in mest must be mapped over time and not simply be a phallus or yoni that perpetuates as a possession.
it changes every time you use it.

potential energy is a dangerous thing if seen out of context in the unfolding over time.
Hell i could see the potential of someone eventually being dead and attribute it to the gun i am holding
accidently skipping the 30 years potential between.

[Billy]

rosygyro- "Not doing-- is quite a lot about unlearning the social conditioning that arrives deceptively easy....                               social conditioning and self development are very closely linked.

....there can be a deliberate trade off between living in natural grace and forsaking natural grace so as to facilitate alternative perception in the absence of traps endemic to ego.
....sexual energy in mest must be mapped over time..."


    That is 'forbearance.'

[Le_Regard]

rosygyro wrote:
Le_Regard wrote:
rosygyro wrote:


thoughts on racism...
the soul style which perpetuates or perpetrates rape came into being at the time of the splitting of the sexes
and way way before any variation into different tribes of colour or race.
meaning that in all corners of the world there exist "carriers" of the barbaric root of humanity.

I do not believe racism is an indepth view of humanity ..

consider a car crusher that senses when someone is in a car and will not crush it...
consider this car crusher comes from a future where everything is wonderfull and pedophilies and rapists dont exist

it is a fact that it does not recognise pedophiles or rapists as humans
and simply crushes such cars with no consience.

unless there is an innocent in the car.

not racism.

I'm pretty sure where you're going with the car crushing thing is "human" is just a concept.  The car crushing machine would have a category "human" and it would NOT crush anything matching that description.

It's an old school science fiction concept actually, Asimov's "First Law of Robots" or something like that: Robots Will Not Harm Humans.

Then of course the robots find clever ways to get around it.

So..
I am sitting here with freshly spun cylindered gun to my head, it contains one bullet and five empty chambers.
Not  a classic game of russian roulette as its just me and i can spin the cylinder as many times as i like as long as i pull the trigger before sunrise.

"potential energy" is such that the future of my awareness osscillates between being blatted out into dispersal or perpetually grinding through life in my body for at least a bit longer.

its the difference between having one step of life left and a 1000km walk in front of you.

I "should" be able to detect which future i have.

in a recapitulation body sense.. one day i "should be able to rememember playing the game and surviving, OR this could be the beginning of my recapitulation proper.

i should be able to sense wether i have no more steps available to walk in the right way.. or will have many glorious footsteps ahead.
....................

That aside.. our planet has possibly 5 years left of human life.. or it has possibly 500 or 5000 years of human life on it.
The extension of time and awarness is the EAST in terms of the wheel. it is the FUTURE.
Although the arrival of machines/gun happened 200+ years ago.. the development of non racist machines that crush pedophiles as if they are not human can only happen in the future.
50 years. 500 years, 5000 years?
..........
while the chambers are still spinning on our planetary outlook it seems fairly obvious that should our planet stop having a sex trafficking habit. , or a violently abusive controlling capitalistic force running it that our planet will survive for longer than just 5 years..

the gun we hold is crude and already made in part by our inherited known.
were it a device that facillitated potential energy it would never allow a live round inline with hammer.

were it a device that facillitated potential energy it would sometimes allow a live round in line with hammer
depending upon the head at the end of the barrel.

if manifestation and premanifestation is to be believed..
all old colts are the inorganic ancestors of future colts..
the longer the future the older the ancestor..
the longer the future.. the more discerning the eventual gun.
the longer the future.. the better if the gun behaves according to its potential evolution beyond 5 years.

i think the gun is afraid of change.
...........................

people dont kill people - guns do (potentially)

note- 
At no point is this an encouragement of the practice of killing pedophiles, the game is russian roulette.
At no point is this an attempt to trick the mechanism, the rule is potential energy.
The Gun is an example of a pre-existent inherited mechanism, whos own potential change
is dependant upon human evolution beyond current collectivly self destructive trends.potential.jpg
chakra-color-chart-s.jpg
Of course if we take the gun out of the equation and just look at the different Chakra arrangements, its quite clear that inside every living beings meridians is a simple KILLSWITCH in terms of what they are able to perpetuate in awareness..
If our meridian systems were classicly arranged like curcuit boards it would be clear that some people have missing diodes
or linkages in the curcuit which do not represent the overall functioning of the human species as an evolving unit.
The gun, the chambers, the trigger the skull are all a part of the individuals system.

I held a 6month old baby girl when i was 16.. it caused no great fruedian calamity for me.
18 years later we were sexual partners..

had i been a SEER.. whos perceptive arrangement was misaligned i could have mistaken 
the very real potential for our eventual sexual union in 18 years time as a sexual attraction then.
for it certainly eventually became true. its just that the timing of potential would have been wrong.
i would have taken the truth of our sexual potential in totality and applied it in the present with disasterous consequences.
sexual energy in mest must be mapped over time and not simply be a phallus or yoni that perpetuates as a possession.
it changes every time you use it.

potential energy is a dangerous thing if seen out of context in the unfolding over time.
Hell i could see the potential of someone eventually being dead and attribute it to the gun i am holding
accidently skipping the 30 years potential between.

The only thing I really got out of this is that maybe a butterfly flapping its wings could, eventually, cause-effect, cause-effect, etc., cause a hurricane on the other side of the world.

I thought you were British for some reason.  Where did you find a handgun?

I'm pretty sure I can summarize your major philosophical issues here under the heading: "The Problem of Evil".

Update: Here is literally the wikipedia version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil

[Le_Regard]

rosygyro wrote:
Do you think it is correct for a person to consider the development of qualities in which they are naturally talented to be a heart path?

I would call it the development of qualities in areas of natural talent- no more.
..........................

Not doing-- is quite a lot about unlearning the social conditioning that arrives deceptivly easily.
the portion of self deception that was naturally talented at gaining a foothold in awareness.
the flyer is the parasite that will grow symbioticly with your own developing ego.
and like spidermans "venom".. will inhabit your socially acceptable powers more readily than your own freedom.
.........................................
those who are spiritually possessed cannot differentiate between themselves and the awareness that has taken over...
social conditioning and self development are very closely linked.
...............

Its a moot comment anyway..
I am not advocating self destruction and deliberate ignorance
just that there can be a deliberate trade off between living in natural grace
and foresaking natural grace so as to facillitate alternate perception in the absence of
traps endemic to ego.
.......... 

not that i feel particularly skilled in any wierd or wonderful way, all i have done is develop a philosophy that has no bearing.
fine as far as slipping past the eagle.. great for that..
thing is i want to continue the work to trigger a shift in the actual and total habitual
and not just escape.

as far as FEAR goes..
i am pretty terrified of the world accessing the void in a singular perception of time..

I think it boils down to: why have a body at all?

Why were we born (into a shared world that is AT LEAST connected with computers and smartphones and the internet and all the literal physical cables between right here and wherever on Earth "posting.php?mode=quote&f=49&p=134659" really is) at all?

I don't know.  Why do I exist?  I have no explanation at all except that it's happening, but if I'm quite honest I do actually feel an incredible sense of purpose, like I have IMPORTANT THINGS TO SAY before I die.

[Le_Regard]

To clarify, I do not think it holds together that FREEDOM or LIBERATION from the ego could be the point of having a body.  It would be like tying yourself up to see if you can escape.  It would reduce a human life to the problems of solving a rubik's cube.

I think the Castaneda version is we're supposed to be increasing the Eagle's Awareness?

[Julio Juliopolis]

Sure, my computer breaks and then I find this thread. Guess I'll start intending for it to still be around next week when I get my new one and I don't have to reply with just my phone. xD

Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

[Le_Regard]

Pixie Dust wrote:
Serloco doesn't do a great job of connecting the dots for his readers.  He lets his audience come to their own conclusion because that's how he shows instead of tells.  It sounds like he's telling, but he's really not revealing anything unless you're in the circle.  His circle.  

It sounds like you don't want in his circle, Le.  I can't blame you.  His circle sounds a bit ridiculous when you see it from the outside.  See if from his perspective and what he's preaching is very simple.  He's basically saying you're experiencing the reality you perceive.  Perception controls reality.  

The collective perception is mighter than the individual perception. Hence why some things are more easily altered than others.  That's the tl;dr version.

If instead of CIRCLE you say MANDALA, does that ruin it for you, or is it basically the same idea?

In Tibetan tantra you visualize yourself as "the deity at the center of the mandala" and so on.  I can just about get my head around that.  CIRCLE gets right into witchcraft territory and the associations are way less clear for me.

[Pixie Dust]

Le_Regard wrote:
Pixie Dust wrote:
Serloco doesn't do a great job of connecting the dots for his readers.  He lets his audience come to their own conclusion because that's how he shows instead of tells.  It sounds like he's telling, but he's really not revealing anything unless you're in the circle.  His circle.  

It sounds like you don't want in his circle, Le.  I can't blame you.  His circle sounds a bit ridiculous when you see it from the outside.  See if from his perspective and what he's preaching is very simple.  He's basically saying you're experiencing the reality you perceive.  Perception controls reality.  

The collective perception is mighter than the individual perception. Hence why some things are more easily altered than others.  That's the tl;dr version.

If instead of CIRCLE you say MANDALA, does that ruin it for you, or is it basically the same idea?

In Tibetan tantra you visualize yourself as "the deity at the center of the mandala" and so on.  I can just about get my head around that.  CIRCLE gets right into witchcraft territory and the associations are way less clear for me.

I was merely addressing why Serloco is difficult to understand. It's like he's babbling off letters from the alphabet but only those who understand the alphabet will know what the letters mean. So a circle is more like the alphabet than a mandala.

It's a tease to do that, but whatever. Serloco enjoys the bait and lure. More power to that corn God.

Tanta is an entirely different direction.

[Le_Regard]

"It's like he's babbling off letters from the alphabet but only those who understand the alphabet will know what the letters mean."

That's just talking.  I mean that's... that's just speaking -- saying anything about anything to anyone.

That's basically just what an alphabet is and what letters are.  (Apologies to cultures that use Chinese ideograms, obviously.)

[Pixie Dust]

Is it just speaking?  Are words merely a means of expression or are they also a means of control and manipulation?  Hitler used words with such meaning that many suffered and committed acts against humanity.

Nelson Mandela spoke to unify nations and succeeded.  

For you, words may be useless artifacts.  For others, they are magic and used to create legacies.  Good and bad.

Only the ignorant accept things at face value.

[Le_Regard]

I would just include all that in the potentially encoded meaning of the speech.  Certainly a political speech, or even a general addressing his troops, would be a very different thing than a professor lecturing his students on atomic physics.  It's all speech though, it's all "letter sounds" vibrating air and somehow meaning things.

[Le_Regard]

Le_Regard wrote:
I would just include all that in the potentially encoded meaning of the speech.  Certainly a political speech, or even a general addressing his troops, would be a very different thing than a professor lecturing his students on atomic physics.  It's all speech though, it's all "letter sounds" vibrating air and somehow meaning things.
I suppose to be really clear you'd have to separate SPEAKING from body language or just making noises, or subtle cues like joking or sarcasm?  And the kind of font a poster is printed in, or the picture on it, does actually matter.  So "speech" is probably misleading.  Communicating then?

[Pixie Dust]

Serloco is not the typical teacher or general.  Typical teachers and generals want to be understood.  

Not everyone is so obvious.  Some even prefer to hide behind many masks.  Some even argue against themselves--people are weird.

[Le_Regard]

Even so, you should be able to read it if you knew the language?

If I can't read an email because it's deliberately encrypted (because it has credit card numbers in it or something), I still CAN'T read it...  but I still could have I had the key.

[Pixie Dust]

There you go.

Learn the cipher, get the treasure.

[Le_Regard]

I suppose it's also possible that you could put a lot of time into learning a rare ancient language just to find their literature sucks and is all boring stories about sheep herding that are only funny if you were there.

[serloco]

It takes understanding in order to convey understanding. Its not merely words its what you place within them that counts.

[Pixie Dust]

Ancient languages aren't for everyone, Le.  Hitler found appealing what many found terrifying.  Nelson Mandela was a similar lone wolf.  Those who tap into something different usually are misunderstood by the sheep.  Deviants are so mischievous.  

With the right mind, any literature can become fascinating.  To someone.  Somewhere.  Maybe you're just not that person, Le.

[Le_Regard]

serloco wrote:
It takes understanding in order to convey understanding. Its not merely words its what you place within them that counts. 

What would you say if I bought an art gallery, then I put a urinal on the wall, and then I told you it was art, and it cost $5000?

[Le_Regard]

Pixie Dust wrote:
Ancient languages aren't for everyone, Le.  Hitler found appealing what many found terrifying.  Nelson Mandela was a similar lone wolf.  Those who tap into something different usually are misunderstood by the sheep.  Deviants are so mischievous.  

With the right mind, any literature can become fascinating.  To someone.  Somewhere.  Maybe you're just not that person, Le.  

Deviants, lol.  Sometimes I make a point of reminding myself that prisons are real places, that you can visit at any time, much too easily.

Also I remind myself that's NOT desirable because most of the natives will probably NOT be like me, i.e., secret geniuses misunderstood by society.

[Pixie Dust]

Depends on the security level of the prison.  Maximum security has some very interesting individuals.  Minimum security prisons have some too but in lower numbers.  Remember that when you commit a crime.... go big or go home, otherwise, you're hanging out with idiots.