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serloco + Littlepaw wrote:
NagualHuman wrote:That is all just justification of solid position,
I am dead;- fluid.
Given to my destiny unfolding and all stakes hapening.
I feel no emotions nor need to bind myself
or confirming mind-projected measuring systems,
made from the boredom or need to validate one's self.
thus I can only live from the moment to moment,
without anything I ever had in my life,
only with silent pridel,
that I am beign a channel for Spirit.
Just a few things worth mentioning. Death is the extinguishing of awareness not the fluidity gained through suspending the tonal. It is also worth mentioning that too much fluidity is a bad thing. People need a ground base to work from, we need a tonal. No, it isnot good to become fixated to a single inventory but also it is bad to have none. We need somewhere to work from.

It is also the goal of stalking to enhance awareness, not to ignore it. Sorcerer's study the tonal because it has a wealth of knowledge and awareness that has been cultivated for centuries. It has much gold within it to find. So when you decide to stalk what is time be prepared to uncover what scores of people before us have found, some have gotten pretty  far, and some are just regurgitating other peoples finds. Either way time itself is a very deep concept with much awareness within it. So my point being that when i am stalking time i am not as you say binding myself with trivialties, i am instead gaining awareness of time.

If you were adept at reaching fluidity as you claim to be then you can surely glide to various positions of time, and give detailed description of time from various awareness points. Instead you self importantly proclaim it all to be worthless endevours of foolish people. I suggest you recheck you power placement and intent before you venture to far into this world you describe.

I learned a while back that our judgements reflect our reality. What this means is that when you judge someone as being foolish or worthless, you attract, or form this experience with your intent and will. You are effectively moving reality into the role that you judge it it to be. This is a very powerful tool, a blessing we have and a curse. If you are aware of people being self-important worthless trash then that is the world you fixate yourself into. Speaking of time, time holds every possible configuration of reality within its completeness, and so when you align to your judgements you align to that time, or dimension. It has the potential to become everything, and yet when you hold to your standard judgements of humanity you miss our on the potential. There are worlds like this one where everyone is a powerful being with vast awareness. Yet you wouldnt even know it because your head is so far up your ass all you can see is ****.

Talk about self pity ruining the parade!
 Whats it about this time ?


Another's reflection.
Another food
Another ****
Another day

Where an Other end ?

Thought same as time (one moment) end=lead somewhere...

PS: Your dick is small, mine knows how to beat round the bush!
problem is I dont have your beating stick...would like to see how you would respond then in the past
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Nagual Human,

why are you saying Littlepaw wrote when Littlepaw did not write?
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NagualHuman wrote: Whats it about this time ?


Another's reflection.
Another food
Another ****
Another day

Where an Other end ?

Thought same as time (one moment) end=lead somewhere...

PS: Your dick is small, mine knows how to beat round the bush!
problem is I dont have your beating stick...would like to see how you would respond then in the past
You don't even make sense, like most of your posts. Just a bunch of nonsensical words thrown together. It takes power to convey the understanding within words. I suggest you practice up.
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Thank you Shamanka, it is nice to be appreciated.

I agree that recap's focus is the future. We try to focus on the past and present to alter the future of our awareness and stored energy. I wonder if there is some way to unite the future with the present. A few times, in a heightened state of awareness I was able to bridge the past to the present by focusing my attention on a past experience. Like in recap (but more intense) I would take on the exact state of awareness i was at during the event. It was like my attention formed an active bridge or pathway to me here and now. If only there was some way to focus into the future to do the same thing. We could see how we are in the future and receive those states before doing all the work that got us there. I suppose the best way to begin is to simply intend it.
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serloco + Littlepaw wrote:
NagualHuman wrote:That is all just justification of solid position,
I am dead;- fluid.
Given to my destiny unfolding and all stakes hapening.
I feel no emotions nor need to bind myself
or confirming mind-projected measuring systems,
made from the boredom or need to validate one's self.
thus I can only live from the moment to moment,
without anything I ever had in my life,
only with silent pridel,
that I am beign a channel for Spirit.
Just a few things worth mentioning. Death is the extinguishing of awareness not the fluidity gained through suspending the tonal. It is also worth mentioning that too much fluidity is a bad thing. People need a ground base to work from, we need a tonal. No, it isnot good to become fixated to a single inventory but also it is bad to have none. We need somewhere to work from.

It is also the goal of stalking to enhance awareness, not to ignore it. Sorcerer's study the tonal because it has a wealth of knowledge and awareness that has been cultivated for centuries. It has much gold within it to find. So when you decide to stalk what is time be prepared to uncover what scores of people before us have found, some have gotten pretty  far, and some are just regurgitating other peoples finds. Either way time itself is a very deep concept with much awareness within it. So my point being that when i am stalking time i am not as you say binding myself with trivialties, i am instead gaining awareness of time.

If you were adept at reaching fluidity as you claim to be then you can surely glide to various positions of time, and give detailed description of time from various awareness points. Instead you self importantly proclaim it all to be worthless endevours of foolish people. I suggest you recheck you power placement and intent before you venture to far into this world you describe.

I learned a while back that our judgements reflect our reality. What this means is that when you judge someone as being foolish or worthless, you attract, or form this experience with your intent and will. You are effectively moving reality into the role that you judge it it to be. This is a very powerful tool, a blessing we have and a curse. If you are aware of people being self-important worthless trash then that is the world you fixate yourself into. Speaking of time, time holds every possible configuration of reality within its completeness, and so when you align to your judgements you align to that time, or dimension. It has the potential to become everything, and yet when you hold to your standard judgements of humanity you miss our on the potential. There are worlds like this one where everyone is a powerful being with vast awareness. Yet you wouldnt even know it because your head is so far up your ass all you can see is ****.

Talk about self pity ruining the parade!
 Whats it about this time ?


Another's reflection.
Another food
Another ****
Another day

Where an Other end ?

Thought same as time (one moment) end=lead somewhere...

PS: Your dick is small, mine knows how to beat round the bush!
problem is I dont have your beating stick...would like to see how you would respond then in the past
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Nagual Human,

why are you saying Littlepaw wrote when Littlepaw did not write?
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NagualHuman wrote: Whats it about this time ?


Another's reflection.
Another food
Another ****
Another day

Where an Other end ?

Thought same as time (one moment) end=lead somewhere...

PS: Your dick is small, mine knows how to beat round the bush!
problem is I dont have your beating stick...would like to see how you would respond then in the past
You don't even make sense, like most of your posts. Just a bunch of nonsensical words thrown together. It takes power to convey the understanding within words. I suggest you practice up.
Reply
Its hard to see with a raised shield of recognition and even harder with mind hovering over own person.

Connection with spirit is abstract; uncatchable and unquestionable.

Littlepaw, sorry for that
your answer is the first line in this post - to the post there and to that in the other thread.
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Death extinguish awareness; thus make space for something else or blank space, life fills the space, none of those two forces has anything to do with fluidity. Only thing that has to do with fluidity is a balance; more precisely said jumping from one side to another.

Sorcerer study nagual for perpetuating death and tonal for perpetuating life and vice versa, in reality sorcerer strives to delete almost whole tonal a 99% of it, that what remains is only link with spirit; Time same as matter as do the holy glorious things like divination etc. serves only as a food for sheeps. When sorcerer stops the world; time; silences the dialogue she gains acces to both sides of time, meaning of words and gateways of worlds; it's important to know about the 8th and 9th through which is the time appearing, as words through 1th and 2nd and worlds through 3rd and 4th; 5th is double(in means of  synchronical experiences); 6th - reason and 7th will.

Beign petty means self-importance, when you give value to something - emotion or an disrupted reasoning status(ego), in this case time, you are standing it on piedestal or somewhere, that is where my first comment lead, good stalker would recognize that I ment it as a joke and still do, as a stalker also knows that he himself is the Whole Time.

I never said anything about that beign fool makes you unworthy or anything else, I myself am one,
so noone can blame me for seeing me that way,
that only shows how foolishly, they are stationed within themselves, there is nothing more deadly than seriousness.

If I somehow disrupted you, I am sorry I haven't ment it that way, I will be glad if you stop advising and pointing out, screaming "my way"
no one asks for Gurus here on this forum.
Reply
I am not 'screaming your way' and sorry if it offends you but your perceptions are off, as are your judgements.

Death is not something that refills your awareness like the description of shrinking the tonal. It is something that consumes your very awareness, all of it. Only a few make it past the Eagle.

You didn't come right out and say it was worthless, but you devalued the entire thread and the concept of learning about time. You also pretty much stated that the human's finds are worthless. I am not a guru as you say it, but i am a seer and that is what i saw, i don't need your exact words to see your awareness in the moment. You just dismissed the whole idea as if it were below you. a self-important stance.

I am not saying that there is not a lot of work to be done on the tonal of our times, meaning that much of it is a waste of time. surely much of it is. But even don Juan said that a stalker learns all he can about the tonal, and everything in the world. Its called gaining awareness. Can you also not gain awareness about a world, or position, and then leave it at the door when you leave? Thats the trick of gaining awareness, selection.

Not everyone hates gurus dude. If someone has valuable knowledge to contribute, or has advice to pull me up from the shadow i surely appreciate it. That is because i can see past my own self-importance, to see there is something greater beyond just myself. People have valuable awareness to contribute, when you listen.

You are the one who throws disgusting insults around, which have nothing to do with the topic. My dick is small? get real.

You also seem to gather to your own conclusions, and then call it a finality. Of course you do realize that often when we reach our conclusions about something there is much more to learn. That's the thing with awareness, you can always expand it and learn more. that is with an open mind. Many times i thought i knew about something just to learn later i was wrong, or that there was more to learn there.

I also never drew the connection to death and fluidity, you did, when you said "I am dead - fluid".
Hate to break it to you but you are very much alive, and not so fluid, as i see it.

If you want to get technical death and life have everything to do with fluidity, as does the rolling force of the eagle which gives and takes awareness from you. Death takes awareness from you, deactivating that awareness and replacing it with new life. This is a fluid process, the leaving behind of the tonal, or death of the tonal, into the unknown of the nagual. You may not call this force death,, which takes the old awareness away, but i do. The two sides of the rolling force are bestowing and removal, life and death. When used effectively together with intent you get motion, fluidity. The big picture that you missed is the total force of death, or the end game moment that death carries out to us. when we are consumed and no more. like i said, not all of us warriors make it past the finish line.
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Its hard to see with a raised shield of recognition and even harder with mind hovering over own person.

Connection with spirit is abstract; uncatchable and unquestionable.

Littlepaw, sorry for that
your answer is the first line in this post - to the post there and to that in the other thread.
Reply
Death extinguish awareness; thus make space for something else or blank space, life fills the space, none of those two forces has anything to do with fluidity. Only thing that has to do with fluidity is a balance; more precisely said jumping from one side to another.

Sorcerer study nagual for perpetuating death and tonal for perpetuating life and vice versa, in reality sorcerer strives to delete almost whole tonal a 99% of it, that what remains is only link with spirit; Time same as matter as do the holy glorious things like divination etc. serves only as a food for sheeps. When sorcerer stops the world; time; silences the dialogue she gains acces to both sides of time, meaning of words and gateways of worlds; it's important to know about the 8th and 9th through which is the time appearing, as words through 1th and 2nd and worlds through 3rd and 4th; 5th is double(in means of  synchronical experiences); 6th - reason and 7th will.

Beign petty means self-importance, when you give value to something - emotion or an disrupted reasoning status(ego), in this case time, you are standing it on piedestal or somewhere, that is where my first comment lead, good stalker would recognize that I ment it as a joke and still do, as a stalker also knows that he himself is the Whole Time.

I never said anything about that beign fool makes you unworthy or anything else, I myself am one,
so noone can blame me for seeing me that way,
that only shows how foolishly, they are stationed within themselves, there is nothing more deadly than seriousness.

If I somehow disrupted you, I am sorry I haven't ment it that way, I will be glad if you stop advising and pointing out, screaming "my way"
no one asks for Gurus here on this forum.
Reply
I am not 'screaming your way' and sorry if it offends you but your perceptions are off, as are your judgements.

Death is not something that refills your awareness like the description of shrinking the tonal. It is something that consumes your very awareness, all of it. Only a few make it past the Eagle.

You didn't come right out and say it was worthless, but you devalued the entire thread and the concept of learning about time. You also pretty much stated that the human's finds are worthless. I am not a guru as you say it, but i am a seer and that is what i saw, i don't need your exact words to see your awareness in the moment. You just dismissed the whole idea as if it were below you. a self-important stance.

I am not saying that there is not a lot of work to be done on the tonal of our times, meaning that much of it is a waste of time. surely much of it is. But even don Juan said that a stalker learns all he can about the tonal, and everything in the world. Its called gaining awareness. Can you also not gain awareness about a world, or position, and then leave it at the door when you leave? Thats the trick of gaining awareness, selection.

Not everyone hates gurus dude. If someone has valuable knowledge to contribute, or has advice to pull me up from the shadow i surely appreciate it. That is because i can see past my own self-importance, to see there is something greater beyond just myself. People have valuable awareness to contribute, when you listen.

You are the one who throws disgusting insults around, which have nothing to do with the topic. My dick is small? get real.

You also seem to gather to your own conclusions, and then call it a finality. Of course you do realize that often when we reach our conclusions about something there is much more to learn. That's the thing with awareness, you can always expand it and learn more. that is with an open mind. Many times i thought i knew about something just to learn later i was wrong, or that there was more to learn there.

I also never drew the connection to death and fluidity, you did, when you said "I am dead - fluid".
Hate to break it to you but you are very much alive, and not so fluid, as i see it.

If you want to get technical death and life have everything to do with fluidity, as does the rolling force of the eagle which gives and takes awareness from you. Death takes awareness from you, deactivating that awareness and replacing it with new life. This is a fluid process, the leaving behind of the tonal, or death of the tonal, into the unknown of the nagual. You may not call this force death,, which takes the old awareness away, but i do. The two sides of the rolling force are bestowing and removal, life and death. When used effectively together with intent you get motion, fluidity. The big picture that you missed is the total force of death, or the end game moment that death carries out to us. when we are consumed and no more. like i said, not all of us warriors make it past the finish line.
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Its hard to see with a raised shield of recognition and even harder with mind hovering over own person.

Connection with spirit is abstract; uncatchable and unquestionable.

Littlepaw, sorry for that
your answer is the first line in this post - to the post there and to that in the other thread.
Reply
Death extinguish awareness; thus make space for something else or blank space, life fills the space, none of those two forces has anything to do with fluidity. Only thing that has to do with fluidity is a balance; more precisely said jumping from one side to another.

Sorcerer study nagual for perpetuating death and tonal for perpetuating life and vice versa, in reality sorcerer strives to delete almost whole tonal a 99% of it, that what remains is only link with spirit; Time same as matter as do the holy glorious things like divination etc. serves only as a food for sheeps. When sorcerer stops the world; time; silences the dialogue she gains acces to both sides of time, meaning of words and gateways of worlds; it's important to know about the 8th and 9th through which is the time appearing, as words through 1th and 2nd and worlds through 3rd and 4th; 5th is double(in means of  synchronical experiences); 6th - reason and 7th will.

Beign petty means self-importance, when you give value to something - emotion or an disrupted reasoning status(ego), in this case time, you are standing it on piedestal or somewhere, that is where my first comment lead, good stalker would recognize that I ment it as a joke and still do, as a stalker also knows that he himself is the Whole Time.

I never said anything about that beign fool makes you unworthy or anything else, I myself am one,
so noone can blame me for seeing me that way,
that only shows how foolishly, they are stationed within themselves, there is nothing more deadly than seriousness.

If I somehow disrupted you, I am sorry I haven't ment it that way, I will be glad if you stop advising and pointing out, screaming "my way"
no one asks for Gurus here on this forum.
Reply
I am not 'screaming your way' and sorry if it offends you but your perceptions are off, as are your judgements.

Death is not something that refills your awareness like the description of shrinking the tonal. It is something that consumes your very awareness, all of it. Only a few make it past the Eagle.

You didn't come right out and say it was worthless, but you devalued the entire thread and the concept of learning about time. You also pretty much stated that the human's finds are worthless. I am not a guru as you say it, but i am a seer and that is what i saw, i don't need your exact words to see your awareness in the moment. You just dismissed the whole idea as if it were below you. a self-important stance.

I am not saying that there is not a lot of work to be done on the tonal of our times, meaning that much of it is a waste of time. surely much of it is. But even don Juan said that a stalker learns all he can about the tonal, and everything in the world. Its called gaining awareness. Can you also not gain awareness about a world, or position, and then leave it at the door when you leave? Thats the trick of gaining awareness, selection.

Not everyone hates gurus dude. If someone has valuable knowledge to contribute, or has advice to pull me up from the shadow i surely appreciate it. That is because i can see past my own self-importance, to see there is something greater beyond just myself. People have valuable awareness to contribute, when you listen.

You are the one who throws disgusting insults around, which have nothing to do with the topic. My dick is small? get real.

You also seem to gather to your own conclusions, and then call it a finality. Of course you do realize that often when we reach our conclusions about something there is much more to learn. That's the thing with awareness, you can always expand it and learn more. that is with an open mind. Many times i thought i knew about something just to learn later i was wrong, or that there was more to learn there.

I also never drew the connection to death and fluidity, you did, when you said "I am dead - fluid".
Hate to break it to you but you are very much alive, and not so fluid, as i see it.

If you want to get technical death and life have everything to do with fluidity, as does the rolling force of the eagle which gives and takes awareness from you. Death takes awareness from you, deactivating that awareness and replacing it with new life. This is a fluid process, the leaving behind of the tonal, or death of the tonal, into the unknown of the nagual. You may not call this force death,, which takes the old awareness away, but i do. The two sides of the rolling force are bestowing and removal, life and death. When used effectively together with intent you get motion, fluidity. The big picture that you missed is the total force of death, or the end game moment that death carries out to us. when we are consumed and no more. like i said, not all of us warriors make it past the finish line.
Reply
Its hard to see with a raised shield of recognition and even harder with mind hovering over own person.

Connection with spirit is abstract; uncatchable and unquestionable.

Littlepaw, sorry for that
your answer is the first line in this post - to the post there and to that in the other thread.
Reply
Death extinguish awareness; thus make space for something else or blank space, life fills the space, none of those two forces has anything to do with fluidity. Only thing that has to do with fluidity is a balance; more precisely said jumping from one side to another.

Sorcerer study nagual for perpetuating death and tonal for perpetuating life and vice versa, in reality sorcerer strives to delete almost whole tonal a 99% of it, that what remains is only link with spirit; Time same as matter as do the holy glorious things like divination etc. serves only as a food for sheeps. When sorcerer stops the world; time; silences the dialogue she gains acces to both sides of time, meaning of words and gateways of worlds; it's important to know about the 8th and 9th through which is the time appearing, as words through 1th and 2nd and worlds through 3rd and 4th; 5th is double(in means of  synchronical experiences); 6th - reason and 7th will.

Beign petty means self-importance, when you give value to something - emotion or an disrupted reasoning status(ego), in this case time, you are standing it on piedestal or somewhere, that is where my first comment lead, good stalker would recognize that I ment it as a joke and still do, as a stalker also knows that he himself is the Whole Time.

I never said anything about that beign fool makes you unworthy or anything else, I myself am one,
so noone can blame me for seeing me that way,
that only shows how foolishly, they are stationed within themselves, there is nothing more deadly than seriousness.

If I somehow disrupted you, I am sorry I haven't ment it that way, I will be glad if you stop advising and pointing out, screaming "my way"
no one asks for Gurus here on this forum.
Reply
I am not 'screaming your way' and sorry if it offends you but your perceptions are off, as are your judgements.

Death is not something that refills your awareness like the description of shrinking the tonal. It is something that consumes your very awareness, all of it. Only a few make it past the Eagle.

You didn't come right out and say it was worthless, but you devalued the entire thread and the concept of learning about time. You also pretty much stated that the human's finds are worthless. I am not a guru as you say it, but i am a seer and that is what i saw, i don't need your exact words to see your awareness in the moment. You just dismissed the whole idea as if it were below you. a self-important stance.

I am not saying that there is not a lot of work to be done on the tonal of our times, meaning that much of it is a waste of time. surely much of it is. But even don Juan said that a stalker learns all he can about the tonal, and everything in the world. Its called gaining awareness. Can you also not gain awareness about a world, or position, and then leave it at the door when you leave? Thats the trick of gaining awareness, selection.

Not everyone hates gurus dude. If someone has valuable knowledge to contribute, or has advice to pull me up from the shadow i surely appreciate it. That is because i can see past my own self-importance, to see there is something greater beyond just myself. People have valuable awareness to contribute, when you listen.

You are the one who throws disgusting insults around, which have nothing to do with the topic. My dick is small? get real.

You also seem to gather to your own conclusions, and then call it a finality. Of course you do realize that often when we reach our conclusions about something there is much more to learn. That's the thing with awareness, you can always expand it and learn more. that is with an open mind. Many times i thought i knew about something just to learn later i was wrong, or that there was more to learn there.

I also never drew the connection to death and fluidity, you did, when you said "I am dead - fluid".
Hate to break it to you but you are very much alive, and not so fluid, as i see it.

If you want to get technical death and life have everything to do with fluidity, as does the rolling force of the eagle which gives and takes awareness from you. Death takes awareness from you, deactivating that awareness and replacing it with new life. This is a fluid process, the leaving behind of the tonal, or death of the tonal, into the unknown of the nagual. You may not call this force death,, which takes the old awareness away, but i do. The two sides of the rolling force are bestowing and removal, life and death. When used effectively together with intent you get motion, fluidity. The big picture that you missed is the total force of death, or the end game moment that death carries out to us. when we are consumed and no more. like i said, not all of us warriors make it past the finish line.
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Its hard to see with a raised shield of recognition and even harder with mind hovering over own person.

Connection with spirit is abstract; uncatchable and unquestionable.

Littlepaw, sorry for that
your answer is the first line in this post - to the post there and to that in the other thread.
Reply
Death extinguish awareness; thus make space for something else or blank space, life fills the space, none of those two forces has anything to do with fluidity. Only thing that has to do with fluidity is a balance; more precisely said jumping from one side to another.

Sorcerer study nagual for perpetuating death and tonal for perpetuating life and vice versa, in reality sorcerer strives to delete almost whole tonal a 99% of it, that what remains is only link with spirit; Time same as matter as do the holy glorious things like divination etc. serves only as a food for sheeps. When sorcerer stops the world; time; silences the dialogue she gains acces to both sides of time, meaning of words and gateways of worlds; it's important to know about the 8th and 9th through which is the time appearing, as words through 1th and 2nd and worlds through 3rd and 4th; 5th is double(in means of  synchronical experiences); 6th - reason and 7th will.

Beign petty means self-importance, when you give value to something - emotion or an disrupted reasoning status(ego), in this case time, you are standing it on piedestal or somewhere, that is where my first comment lead, good stalker would recognize that I ment it as a joke and still do, as a stalker also knows that he himself is the Whole Time.

I never said anything about that beign fool makes you unworthy or anything else, I myself am one,
so noone can blame me for seeing me that way,
that only shows how foolishly, they are stationed within themselves, there is nothing more deadly than seriousness.

If I somehow disrupted you, I am sorry I haven't ment it that way, I will be glad if you stop advising and pointing out, screaming "my way"
no one asks for Gurus here on this forum.
Reply
I am not 'screaming your way' and sorry if it offends you but your perceptions are off, as are your judgements.

Death is not something that refills your awareness like the description of shrinking the tonal. It is something that consumes your very awareness, all of it. Only a few make it past the Eagle.

You didn't come right out and say it was worthless, but you devalued the entire thread and the concept of learning about time. You also pretty much stated that the human's finds are worthless. I am not a guru as you say it, but i am a seer and that is what i saw, i don't need your exact words to see your awareness in the moment. You just dismissed the whole idea as if it were below you. a self-important stance.

I am not saying that there is not a lot of work to be done on the tonal of our times, meaning that much of it is a waste of time. surely much of it is. But even don Juan said that a stalker learns all he can about the tonal, and everything in the world. Its called gaining awareness. Can you also not gain awareness about a world, or position, and then leave it at the door when you leave? Thats the trick of gaining awareness, selection.

Not everyone hates gurus dude. If someone has valuable knowledge to contribute, or has advice to pull me up from the shadow i surely appreciate it. That is because i can see past my own self-importance, to see there is something greater beyond just myself. People have valuable awareness to contribute, when you listen.

You are the one who throws disgusting insults around, which have nothing to do with the topic. My dick is small? get real.

You also seem to gather to your own conclusions, and then call it a finality. Of course you do realize that often when we reach our conclusions about something there is much more to learn. That's the thing with awareness, you can always expand it and learn more. that is with an open mind. Many times i thought i knew about something just to learn later i was wrong, or that there was more to learn there.

I also never drew the connection to death and fluidity, you did, when you said "I am dead - fluid".
Hate to break it to you but you are very much alive, and not so fluid, as i see it.

If you want to get technical death and life have everything to do with fluidity, as does the rolling force of the eagle which gives and takes awareness from you. Death takes awareness from you, deactivating that awareness and replacing it with new life. This is a fluid process, the leaving behind of the tonal, or death of the tonal, into the unknown of the nagual. You may not call this force death,, which takes the old awareness away, but i do. The two sides of the rolling force are bestowing and removal, life and death. When used effectively together with intent you get motion, fluidity. The big picture that you missed is the total force of death, or the end game moment that death carries out to us. when we are consumed and no more. like i said, not all of us warriors make it past the finish line.
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Its hard to see with a raised shield of recognition and even harder with mind hovering over own person.

Connection with spirit is abstract; uncatchable and unquestionable.

Littlepaw, sorry for that
your answer is the first line in this post - to the post there and to that in the other thread.
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Death extinguish awareness; thus make space for something else or blank space, life fills the space, none of those two forces has anything to do with fluidity. Only thing that has to do with fluidity is a balance; more precisely said jumping from one side to another.

Sorcerer study nagual for perpetuating death and tonal for perpetuating life and vice versa, in reality sorcerer strives to delete almost whole tonal a 99% of it, that what remains is only link with spirit; Time same as matter as do the holy glorious things like divination etc. serves only as a food for sheeps. When sorcerer stops the world; time; silences the dialogue she gains acces to both sides of time, meaning of words and gateways of worlds; it's important to know about the 8th and 9th through which is the time appearing, as words through 1th and 2nd and worlds through 3rd and 4th; 5th is double(in means of  synchronical experiences); 6th - reason and 7th will.

Beign petty means self-importance, when you give value to something - emotion or an disrupted reasoning status(ego), in this case time, you are standing it on piedestal or somewhere, that is where my first comment lead, good stalker would recognize that I ment it as a joke and still do, as a stalker also knows that he himself is the Whole Time.

I never said anything about that beign fool makes you unworthy or anything else, I myself am one,
so noone can blame me for seeing me that way,
that only shows how foolishly, they are stationed within themselves, there is nothing more deadly than seriousness.

If I somehow disrupted you, I am sorry I haven't ment it that way, I will be glad if you stop advising and pointing out, screaming "my way"
no one asks for Gurus here on this forum.
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I am not 'screaming your way' and sorry if it offends you but your perceptions are off, as are your judgements.

Death is not something that refills your awareness like the description of shrinking the tonal. It is something that consumes your very awareness, all of it. Only a few make it past the Eagle.

You didn't come right out and say it was worthless, but you devalued the entire thread and the concept of learning about time. You also pretty much stated that the human's finds are worthless. I am not a guru as you say it, but i am a seer and that is what i saw, i don't need your exact words to see your awareness in the moment. You just dismissed the whole idea as if it were below you. a self-important stance.

I am not saying that there is not a lot of work to be done on the tonal of our times, meaning that much of it is a waste of time. surely much of it is. But even don Juan said that a stalker learns all he can about the tonal, and everything in the world. Its called gaining awareness. Can you also not gain awareness about a world, or position, and then leave it at the door when you leave? Thats the trick of gaining awareness, selection.

Not everyone hates gurus dude. If someone has valuable knowledge to contribute, or has advice to pull me up from the shadow i surely appreciate it. That is because i can see past my own self-importance, to see there is something greater beyond just myself. People have valuable awareness to contribute, when you listen.

You are the one who throws disgusting insults around, which have nothing to do with the topic. My dick is small? get real.

You also seem to gather to your own conclusions, and then call it a finality. Of course you do realize that often when we reach our conclusions about something there is much more to learn. That's the thing with awareness, you can always expand it and learn more. that is with an open mind. Many times i thought i knew about something just to learn later i was wrong, or that there was more to learn there.

I also never drew the connection to death and fluidity, you did, when you said "I am dead - fluid".
Hate to break it to you but you are very much alive, and not so fluid, as i see it.

If you want to get technical death and life have everything to do with fluidity, as does the rolling force of the eagle which gives and takes awareness from you. Death takes awareness from you, deactivating that awareness and replacing it with new life. This is a fluid process, the leaving behind of the tonal, or death of the tonal, into the unknown of the nagual. You may not call this force death,, which takes the old awareness away, but i do. The two sides of the rolling force are bestowing and removal, life and death. When used effectively together with intent you get motion, fluidity. The big picture that you missed is the total force of death, or the end game moment that death carries out to us. when we are consumed and no more. like i said, not all of us warriors make it past the finish line.
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