Battle of my life

[serloco]

Keeping it simple is best. There is more then one way to skin a cat.

[funnyguy]

[rosygyro]

The force you are pitting yourself against is the truth of time versus the ha urial tonal.
If we take the second enemy of sobriety and see that what it actually is is a power syntax which allows the victim of it to exert his will in any way he chooses. He can exert such will even if it goes against the purpose of intelligent co-operation in totality. And so the failure of the second enemy will be undoubtedly powerful in terms of getting immediate results but upon death will have lacked the immpeccability to make the leap past the eagle.
An example of everyday sobriety is the serial and compulsive rapist.
When a rapist considers his phallus it is a stick that only makes holes, he will leave the same shape hole in everyone he rapes and even when he is not raping he will consider his personal history as being the rape shape.
Such a man need never know the subtlest of the feminine as he has through practice learned to see all women as a hole.
Sobriety as such blinds those who have it, not through preventing vision but through allowing the sober person to interpret reality according to their immediate will.

Now if you consider wanting to be victorious against sobriety you see that it will be a process of being wrong in all the places you would habitually like to exert the will to be right.
And so the warriors path is born.
Sobriety is what makes people think rape or child abuse is ok.
Changing your energy form to oppose it is not just a case of abstinence it is also a case of tackling the habitual sobriety of the normal assemblage.
Of course it drives warriors mad.

[funnyguy]

Sobriety is what makes people think rape or child abuse is ok?

That seems quite off to me.

[glance left]

"An example of everyday sobriety...."

What about a warrior's sobriety? 

Impression I get, looking forward to ever increasing shifts and, perhaps, movements of the AP, is an attempt to cohere with something of stability...something that lends coherence to the unraveling that's inevitable of the practitioner's world as he/she knows it.  Still....I've heard that some level of insanity/instability is inevitable when thresholds are crossed.  The first of which is when inner silence become permanent.....

I thinks Serloco's suggestion to "keep it simple" is key, for me

[serloco]

When I first got into sorcery I got lucky. I read of the simplest definition of intent and how to intend from don Juan. You just state your intent and let it go, abandon it and forget. So that is what I did to view the source. Next week I was there. 

I also like the blueprint definition of intent and the Spirit. You set your intent and everything moves right away to accomplish the goal. It can be seen as a blueprint or a pattern tat comes together, moves to accomplish the outcome using everything it has around it.

[serloco]

it boils down to this.. 0 and 1, life and death, yes and no... pure choice is freedom and everything is a choice.

[rosygyro]

Stopping the world

[glance left]

Gazing session this a.m......all these insights here (thanks everyone!) swirling and merged in a cohesive experience/state in which the world of solid objects around me dissolved and was replaced by a spray of gold and blue light.  Just awesome!  I hope I can hold onto it...and convey something of what came pouring in.
 
But, honestly....I just don't have the intelligence to bring it all together...just a few lingering highlights/subheadings:
 
It all kind of came twirling around the notion of conflict resolution on a vast, multifaceted/-leveled scale. 
 
I remember a moment in which LW and Lujan took a step toward one another in a momentary flinch toward collaboration.  But, ofc, it didn't work.  There were elements of fixation there in terms of personal perspectives which wouldn't budge...which was nobody's fault.  The timing wasn't right, I don't think.
 
But still.....the notion of collaborative intelligence....and intelligent collaboration.  We can't have intelligent collaboration without collaborative intelligence!  What does that mean?  I think it means something like stepping outside of our own perspective and its inevitable limitations, no matter how vast and how clear our clarity has become.  Nobody sees all....unless one has truly become....nobody.  And, as long as we're all here chatting together, no one is nobody, is my best guess.  So, humility.  Opening up to collaborative intelligence that fills the gap from lateral directions....the gap that is there because of the limitations of our clarity. 
 
This vision of the space program in the 60's/70's.  The sense of urgency (even though driven by asinine cold war competitiveness) to achieve escape velocity....and then actually point ourselves to specific location out there in the unfathomable volumes of outer space with careening celestial bodies flying around (it's insane to think about!) once free of earth's gravity well.  No single person accomplished that.  I would have been impossible without the collaborative efforts of hundreds/thousands of people working together.  Compromise....well, no....I don't think compromise is the right word.  What is?  IDK.  Still, concessions on some level were necessary in order to work together.  Think of all the ego's involved....the disparate points of view!  And still, at the end of it all....there's a flag somewhere up there on the moon...which is both utterly incredible...and utterly absurd at the same time!   
 
With that in mind, all these elements floated up and began to piece themselves together, brought in by everyone here...
 
Intelligent collaboration
 
Simplicity and the power of simply directing intention...the trust to let go and allow the source of intelligence/collaborative intelligence to do what it does best.  To accomplish its own directive
 
Personal forbearance.....to withhold contributing to "cross winds" which interfere with free/clear intention.  Withholding greed...power lust....egomania....obsessive need for control....anything that extends beyond my jurisdiction/field of containment, probing/prodding/groping/grasping....all that stuff.  Just pull the threads back into containment and allow what's coming to unfold at its own pace.  Something along these lines.
 
Unbending intent!  With courage....personal power feeding back into itself/allowing itself to flourish and meet greater and greater challenges which spur it to grow.  But also, with humility to allow for collaborative support/collaborative intelligence to fill in where, perhaps, personal power is at the moment lacking.
 
The notion of "conflict resolution" with my "Foghat"  ( ....thanks, Sen! ) ...the thing sitting on my head (I can feel it right now).  My personal beef with the flyer mind.  Dealing with the specifics of the tendrils (grass roots revolution, in a manner of speaking on a personal level)....without resistance, anger/frustration, disdain, repulsion, aversion.  Almost coming to an agreement, in a way, with that insatiable compulsion to self talk?  IDK...want to be careful about the wording....almost to the extent that I don't know how to talk about it at all...but I have to try.  This notion of the possibility of synergy...symbiosis as Serloco put it, but without compromise of integrity.
 
All I did was become silently suspended within the possibility and I saw the "foghat" dissolve and flow downward, loosening its grip, while this column of light flowed upward, extending its influence, becoming this open ended (above and below) hour glass configuration.  It was then that the session opened up and things spread outward melting through the solid state. 
 
Just some considerations.  I don't know if all of this is actually possible....but it seems like it should/could be!

[rosygyro]

I hate to discriminate.
But I am starting to think that some people
not only won't slip past the eagle
but the eagle will eat them and **** them out so deep in the evolving cosmos
that they will never again see an invention as advanced as a bicycle.
I just wish I could communicate to them before eagle time
where it is they are going, and why?
maybe even help them steer little bit better.
maybe give them the jellofist.

[glance left]

Maybe

I guess that can be an impetus to change......but what kind of change?  Is it effective?  Is this really forbearance?  The lubricated long arm of the law?   (sry....I had to)

IDK, I guess I choose to see things in a different light.  Why emphasize people's darkness?  Their derangement?  Their folly?  Their madness?  Their sickness?  What about finding that part of people, way down deep, that's still connected to infinity and emphasize that instead?  Balance the perspective a little bit.  I mean, it can't all be about the ass end of things all the time.  What about giving people a glimpse of themselves in the context of completion.....as a joyful beam streaking into the heart of infinity?  

Mild into yogut.....or water into wine.  Or, rather, **** into sherbert!   (again.....sry!)  



Changing the angle of approach a little bit to engender awe....wonder.....power....natural forbearance that is simply derived from feeling complete.

IDK.....options.  I guess its all about what works.  And sometimes, one must be ruthless.  Its certainly worked with me, at times, when I needed it.  I'm thankful for those moments of redirect.  Whatever works

[serloco]

Yeah I agree. Giving people importance can bring about great change. Awareness is everything. Giving someone a boost, or showing them their potential can mean the difference between failure and success. If one is aware that they suck then their actions will follow, but if you somehow show them that they are capable of so much more then they will believe it and their actions will light up.

[funnyguy]

All we can do for others is plant a seed for them. From then on it's up to them to care for it. Supporting people is good but the initial seed should be of independence.

[serloco]

I like to not only plant a seed or two, secretly or openly, but also water it from time to time.. Give it some nourishment. I enjoy helping people without their knowing and having them think it was them that did it. It gives them their own power.

[rosygyro]

behind the scenes for a man who's destiny is to climb a mountain is different to behind the scenes for a man who's destiny is to go deep sea diving.
Behind the scenes for a man who's recapitulation records he climbed a mountain is different to behind the scenes for a man who's recapitulation records he went deep sea diving.
we are marooned between the energetic truths of our actions and the potential truths of unfolding destiny.

[rosygyro]

Its like there is a absolutely huge difference between social seers and spiritual seers.
Grigori Rasputin was a social seer... Nostradamus a spiritual seer.
Its a great irony that the social seer although inept in terms of true seeing holds more sway over the way he is seen, than the spiritual seer who must put all interpretation of himself in the hands of power.
Sociality is not a simple arena we can choose to opt in or out of, it is a flow. much like Gossip, if you do not tend to your image in the eyes of others you may fall out of favour and be permanently talked about.

Once again.
we have all seen real life film footage of people who have had narrow escapes from accidental death, a pedestrian and car, or a person bouncing down a cliff to arrive unharmed.
Of all the people who have watched such videos a percentage have covered their eyes at the critical moment and allowed through logical progression the accident to be more fatal than had they kept their eyes wide open.
We naturally expect calamity.
When the ancient toltec were cutting out the heart of sacrificial victim
they did so firstly by assembling the point of no pity for both priest and sacrificee.
when the point of no pity is aligned it is not a ruthless as you would think, for in the point of no pity exists a kind of haze as to who is who.. only the intent of the battle exists and the physical bodies are extraneous detail.
And so it was that two could climb the steps to the alter and one would walk down.

The purpose of course was not the life, the heart or the priests regime.
but was to take the eyes of those watching.. and as they expected the catastrophe to twist the see, so something did survive. something more than expected.

.......

[rosygyro]

the heavy on the implication here is that although the pries was doing everything in their power to steer the peoples perception away from its inherent flaw toward entropy, there was still  a position to assess where in the crowd were those who not only tended to entropy with their perception but also desired it.
Its very complex.. but take talking about SEEDS for instance.
being able to see a potentially destructive unfolding wether it be a you tube video or a human sacrifice ritual and to see its creative potential unfolding in the form of added life.
Its not just a seed ,it is also germination, as separate a caterpillar and moth.

the ancients were simply attempting to keep their civilisation alive by making the peoples logical progression mired in creativity of their own device.
so they didn't shut their eyes and expect the worst.
or even eyes open and try to make the worst.

[rosygyro]

I have one thread of life.
I am putting it somewhere safe. HA.

[serloco]

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