Is there anyone who can see energy directly as it flows in the universe ?

[teopiltzin]

I see with my Third Eye when my eyes are closed, that is only when I willfully intend to have that energetic configuration open. I use the chakra by the same name to open it up so that I could see into the najt, passed it at times, and peer directly at the dark sea of awareness. It's all colors, but with a shine of orange-red in total pitch darkness. That's the color I perceive the universe as being, in its essence, for everything is fire, the Eagle's emanations can be implanted in us through the use of the sacred fire in the sacred fire ceremonies. With eyes open i'm usually doing other stuff rather than seeing. Stalking the self and my own inventories of which there are many, gazing, and of course scrying, as Don Juan taught Don Carlos in the small river with a mirror, where they encountered an inorganic being trying to come into our world. I'm particularly fond of that technique of the Old Seers. It's detailed in the book The Fire From Within. I've attempted to see auras and spirit bodies but up until now I could only do this while in a state of dreaming. Does anyone else have access to orderly inventories while they're in dreaming? I could see the different groups of ideas in my minds as I sleep. I truly never sleep. Lucidity has taken over the dream of my life and when I sleep whether I dream or not am totally conscious. I stop the world as I sleep. It makes me detached in the world of the tonalli. Through the lens of the calendar I could intuitively see into the energy fields of people, but cannot determine their colors, only the way their emanations affect the behavior of the person, their habits, ideas, and actions, as well as reasons for acting.
So in the end, can I see? Well, that depends on what your definition of seeing is. You decide.
Yours in the struggle,
--Teopiltzin

[Guest]

Teo,
You can certainly write, that's clear. 
can I see? Well, that depends on what your definition of seeing is. You decide.

[Being]

I can see too

[Bob May]

Ps 19:1
To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament showeth his handiwork.




Ps 19:2
Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night showeth knowledge.


 

Ps 19:3
There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.




Ps 19:4
Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
There is a place in consciousness where human speech is not understood. There is a sound that builds and takes over. This is a signal that a person is moving to that place of seeing.


Eze 1:24

And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.
When the sound builds, people change. Into what depends on what level or layer we see. Of course those aspects of people were always there. It is just our perception that changes.
At one level we see people as animals. Human animals, not animal animals. It is the soul called Nepesh. This layer makes animal noises.
Once I saw an aquaintance change into a beast that was gigantic, made of energy and made sounds like a roaring. I could see every thought and emotion he was experiencing in his face. I could tell when he was trying to fool me and when he was fooling himself and was unaware of this. I don't know what this level was. Maybe he was not human at all or possessed or something. He appeared as a very powerful frightening beast of energy.
The accompanying sound that builds and the disappearing of the meaning of language that accompanies it seems to be the signals that you are moving into that seeing or experiencing the nagual directly.

[seesaw]

On occasion i have had experiences of 'seeing'.

At the time i thought that the world had just turned inside out. Its pretty extreme.

[Littlepaw]

Story time!



I was standing in the shop I worked at, alone as it was a quiet kind of shop. The teacher within is for me a feeling which becomes a new way of seeing meaning, anyway to get to the point. I had the feeling that I was about to see but I had some work to do. After a llot of huffing and puffing, panting and frustration I was suddenly aware of tree people across the street. I went to the door and looked at them. I could see them normaly and I could see them now in another way, blobs comes to mind...... I could see what they were up to, and I mean ...in life! and my immediate reaction was that I did not like what they were up to in life, then came the shock. All at a distance of 200 yards the female came back to me.. she said, in my head, well why dont you tell us how to live! I immediatey became very embarassed and stopped seeing. Another time I was scowling the dance floor at a party trying to stay on top of the good vibes. I had taught a pretty girl how to spin poi poi which was important for me. I was engrossed in being a decent person rather than foccusing on the fact that I was with a pretty girl. I breathed in the whole room and had one of my earth shattering thoughts. I thought something like...everyone just wants to be accepted. Alone on the dance floor I was suddenly standing in a bubble, like I had been disconnected from ...something.. I was walking inside a new perception, something that I felt was a gift from having perceived and shared honestly with a whole room full of people. I immedialty became scared, as scared as the first time I ever had an orgasm, which was quite scary. lol Just storys which I hope may entertain if not inspire.





Yours,



The Paw

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Interesting story about the tree people Littlepaw...thanks for sharing!

[Littlepaw]

It was actually three people, a lady and two men. Tree people would be allot more funny. I need to learn how to type.

[Bob May]

Littlepaw wrote:
It was actually three people, a lady and two men. Tree people would be allot more funny. I need to learn how to type.Hi LittlePaw,
Sounds like "seeing" to me.
I like the fact that you looked at the thought that "everyone wants to be accepted" as the important thing here.
My experience with visions has led me to believe that what the vision is teaching us is always more important that the vision itself.
But, on another note your "Typo" brings a question back to my mind that every now and again through the years I have asked.
  
Has anyone ever seen men "as trees walking?"


Mr 8:22
And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and besought him to touch him.




Mr 8:23
And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought.


 

Mr 8:24
And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.




Mr 8:25
After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly.
This is the only place where it apparently took Jesus two tries to heal someone. I don't buy that. He was showing us something.
It could be that he was showing us that men appear as luminous eggs made of fibers of light.
The blind man's only previous experience of what a tree was would have been by touch. Feeling a trunk or feeling branches which he would maybe relate to the fibers he was now seeing.
If that was the case, Jesus would have been demonstrating the "seeing" described by don Juan first and then giving the man the sight of normal men the second time he laid hands on him.

[Littlepaw]

Dear Bob May,



Hows it goin? I often wonder about Jesus. Unlike Don Juan it seems like his fate was to be completely out in the open about what he knew. I have heard interestingly from a Warrior who I respect greatly describe Warriors as falling in to category's. One being a person who is like a root of a tree, feeding and nourishing the whole from the bottom up and then there are people, who i think are more rare, who are the beautiful blossoming flower.





Warm regards,



Littlepaw

[rosygyro]

little paw.. Thats a curse and you know it!

[scout1]

I was meaning the seeing energy as it flows in the universe, directly. Deep mode/skill sufficient to determine energetic configuration of a man/woman. I will need to meet a reliable Seer this year 2012. Let me know please (private message) if You can help provide one. Thank You. Europe/Canada/Mexico/Russian federation/elsewhere



Not meaning your eyes or feeling or knowing or remote vision, or any vision or senzory vision.



You have that defined in the books, the problematic, also how they burned off on that and the unknowable.

[Guest]

[rosygyro]

turning someone into the flower is a way of saying when they die that you will be their afterlife priest.
Its a basic soul buying method!
Should you ever be dying..
The flower you give at death will be to the person who most respects the remnants of your MEST in order to provide a better launchpad for an infinite journey ..
buying peoples flowers from them through trickery is a way.. to destroy their infinite journey, to dance on their grave, and to rob from their spirit..
Its a curse little paw..
ANSWER....none!

[scout1]

Rosy interesting: i will keep it in mind. not to do such a SIN

[scout1]

BTW DEAR MEMBERS





DO NOT MIX IGNORANTLY CHRISTIANITY TO MY THREADS. I WILL DO A THREAD ON CHRISTIANITY HERE

[rosygyro]

its similar to oscar wildes famous words.
"We are all in the gutter!"
" But some of us are looking at the stars!"
plainly put when he said this he would watch the sophists at the dinner table glance whistfully at the heavens as if they bridged heaven and earth and wwere better than normal people!, But secretly, loudly and with utter clarity.. he voiced " I said we are ALL in the gutter!"
the truth being he was an equalitarian and not a sophist!

[scout1]

I am looking for a Seer (fully capable of seeing energy as it flows in uni, seeing configuration) for a personal visit/seeing in Europe ?



thank You for a Seer.



Best regards.

[glance left]

Why not see for your self?

[scout1]

i cant see me myself there are some things you cant do yourself )

[glance left]

What about The Oracle? There is seeing there

[scout1]

you must stop the world first to see energy directly.. its "dreaming awake" mode

[scout1]

and you must meet with the Seer personally for such a task to see the energy configuration of a man or woman, i.e. the type "nagual" or not (compartments), the type of man or woman, variousfeatures, proximity of death etc

[glance left]

Really?

[scout1]

Yes, really. Or it has no value. For the person who is examined. Thats the reason i want to meet up with a Seer (not with a freak, but a reliable Seer) this year 2012 in Europe or in Mexico ))