07-04-2005, 12:00 AM
Here's the topic that got me banned agains at Ghost Dork's site (formerly SR)
Most of you know that I have had some six people report seeing me in another place while I was somewhere else. Two children heard me whistle at earsplitting
volume from my kitchen while I was asleep in a closed room 30 feet distant.
Two children saw me walking out to feed horses an instant before I made the scream and turn ashen white when I turned the corner of my bedroom and approached
them with an armful of clothes I'd just gotten from my bedroom. 100 or so feet away and indoors from where they just saw me.
A phelbotomist swore upon my admittance to her hospital on Sunday, that she'd seen and spoken to me there the day before; the same day I was at a bar-b-que
all day 20 miles away.
An MD swore she saw me, to the point of becoming visibly agitated in my insistance she hadn't, in her town 'earlier in the day'. The same time I
was again 20 miles distant working with a carpenter.
My son has seen me walk into our greenhouse just to round the corner of our house and find me instead up on a ladder with a skirt full of apples.
He has also seen me looming from my waist up in supersize just over a bush near our kitchen.
He has also seen me walking from my kitchen door wearing my red flowered dress, but without a head, arms or legs.
I have no conscious control over my double (no superpowers over it) and I've never seen it myself. I'm relying on eyewitness accounts that it exists.
To further demonstrate that it does not fall under Ghost Dogs 'superpower banishment clause' via its apparent abundance in real life I will quote the
following from a book called Edgar Cayce: Modern Prophet on the phenomenon of the double or the doppleganger:
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"In reflecting on the possibility of being fully conscious, yet out of his body, Cayce joined a long parade of those who made such claims in various
cultures. It was the heart of the trance experience sought by the shaman among the Indians of the Pacific Northwest, and the essence of old Hindu claims that
holy men could be seen in two places at once, miles apart. European folklore celebrated the claim in stories of the "Doppleganger" or double who
walks abroad, while men in battlefield experiences of WWII were currently reporting leaving their bodies after severe wounds, to travel over the terrain about
them, seeing every detail with indelible clarity, while seeming to seek aid for their battered bodies.
Possible out-of-the-body experiences had been reported by investigators of hypnosis from its earliest days, where it was quaintly called "travelling
clairvoyance". Hugh Lynn Cayce (Edgar's son) and other investigators such as Charles Tart and Andrija Puharich have reproduced the early hypnosis
experiments with their own subjects, in cases, for example, where subjects supplied such abundant detail of adjoining rooms unknown to them (rooms deliberately
set to fall into dissarray after the door was closed and all observers outside) that the hypothesis of some sort of "leaving the body" seemed worth
considering. Under the influence of LSD, or of sensory deprivation tanks, others who were not hypnotized sometimes also seemed to inspect their immediate
surroundings as though from outside their bodies, while still other subjects reported similar experiences after surgery or in critical illness-- where they
seemed to look down on their bodies with detachment. Cases where people were seen by others in an apparition miles from their bodies were studied and reported
in considerable numbers by Muldoon and Tyrrell in England, as well as by Hart and Lousia Rhine in the US."
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Here are some links for further study:
Rhine study
Muldoon etc.
Most of you know that I have had some six people report seeing me in another place while I was somewhere else. Two children heard me whistle at earsplitting
volume from my kitchen while I was asleep in a closed room 30 feet distant.
Two children saw me walking out to feed horses an instant before I made the scream and turn ashen white when I turned the corner of my bedroom and approached
them with an armful of clothes I'd just gotten from my bedroom. 100 or so feet away and indoors from where they just saw me.
A phelbotomist swore upon my admittance to her hospital on Sunday, that she'd seen and spoken to me there the day before; the same day I was at a bar-b-que
all day 20 miles away.
An MD swore she saw me, to the point of becoming visibly agitated in my insistance she hadn't, in her town 'earlier in the day'. The same time I
was again 20 miles distant working with a carpenter.
My son has seen me walk into our greenhouse just to round the corner of our house and find me instead up on a ladder with a skirt full of apples.
He has also seen me looming from my waist up in supersize just over a bush near our kitchen.
He has also seen me walking from my kitchen door wearing my red flowered dress, but without a head, arms or legs.
I have no conscious control over my double (no superpowers over it) and I've never seen it myself. I'm relying on eyewitness accounts that it exists.
To further demonstrate that it does not fall under Ghost Dogs 'superpower banishment clause' via its apparent abundance in real life I will quote the
following from a book called Edgar Cayce: Modern Prophet on the phenomenon of the double or the doppleganger:
************
"In reflecting on the possibility of being fully conscious, yet out of his body, Cayce joined a long parade of those who made such claims in various
cultures. It was the heart of the trance experience sought by the shaman among the Indians of the Pacific Northwest, and the essence of old Hindu claims that
holy men could be seen in two places at once, miles apart. European folklore celebrated the claim in stories of the "Doppleganger" or double who
walks abroad, while men in battlefield experiences of WWII were currently reporting leaving their bodies after severe wounds, to travel over the terrain about
them, seeing every detail with indelible clarity, while seeming to seek aid for their battered bodies.
Possible out-of-the-body experiences had been reported by investigators of hypnosis from its earliest days, where it was quaintly called "travelling
clairvoyance". Hugh Lynn Cayce (Edgar's son) and other investigators such as Charles Tart and Andrija Puharich have reproduced the early hypnosis
experiments with their own subjects, in cases, for example, where subjects supplied such abundant detail of adjoining rooms unknown to them (rooms deliberately
set to fall into dissarray after the door was closed and all observers outside) that the hypothesis of some sort of "leaving the body" seemed worth
considering. Under the influence of LSD, or of sensory deprivation tanks, others who were not hypnotized sometimes also seemed to inspect their immediate
surroundings as though from outside their bodies, while still other subjects reported similar experiences after surgery or in critical illness-- where they
seemed to look down on their bodies with detachment. Cases where people were seen by others in an apparition miles from their bodies were studied and reported
in considerable numbers by Muldoon and Tyrrell in England, as well as by Hart and Lousia Rhine in the US."
*************
Here are some links for further study:
Rhine study
Muldoon etc.