07-23-2012, 12:11 AM
i post this dialogue with Dreamways from the correspondence (this is an exception, an omen, i dont post private correspondence with anybody) as there is anything personal, but setting the records straight, for the benefit of the readers. I am obliged to do it today (by God, because of yesterday). I held Dreamways in a great respect as sorcerer.
Jan 13, 2011 at 12:48 pm
You: Have You tried to visit heavens in dreaming body ?
In pali canon Buddha is visiting heavens in his dreaming body
so when one is "light" enough not so somber it should be possible
What do You think abou that sir ? )
We can say dreaming restores proper human mythological dimension
potential.
Jan 13, 2011 at 1:27 pm
dreamways:
Yes, the first few months that first started having bright visions in
the daytime, I saw nothing but angels and they lectured me about the
difference between heaven and everything else. There is a feud between
them and the Jinn because they believe that the physical universe
belongs to god's angels and not the rebel angels who took it. They said
that hell was supposed to be the physical heaven but some angels refused
to come back to heaven when hell was first created, and they tried to
kill the angels that were sent to bring them back. Those angels are the
inorganic beings, and they were not cast into hell, they stole it. That
is what the angels told me, and that disagreement between the two sides
is still ongoing. Heaven's angels blame all the problems in this
universe on the other angels, because they "twisted god's plan." The
Jinn, on the other hand, point out that heaven's angels have become
crazy with hate over their defeat and should not be trusted. Apparently,
the creation of sorcerers was caused by heaven's angels trying to
destroy the Jinn on Earth, but it backfired and we were created.
Sorcerers are human mixed with the other angels, so we don't really fit
in completely anywhere and are not obligated to abide by any covenant.
Heaven's angels told me that someday god would make a covenant with
sorcerers, but that day hasn't come yet, so we are still on our own.
Since there is nothing we can do about issues between angels, I just
don't write about it much.
Jan 14, 2011 at 11:35 pm
You: And are You still capable to assemble and visit a heavenly world and even a more higher worlds in the dreaming ?
To visit it actually same as You visit Don Juan in his world ?
Jan 15, 2011 at 12:48 am
dreamways:
Yes, I still travel there occasionally. But, I see angels as just a
different kind of inorganic being, maybe a better kind, but still not
human, so I don't think it is a good idea to listen to them too much.
Inorganic beings, aliens, angels and jinn are all the same thing, and
some of them live in heaven and some don't. Heaven is the region or part
of creation that is truly non-physical, but it is still within the
scope of science to understand it someday. Since hell is physical, I'm
sure that scientist will understand it first. All creation that is
physical is part of the hell domain, and that includes this universe and
Earth itself. Sure, there is a core to hell and a core to heaven, but
technically we are living in hell, the top most level to be exact. The
very next level above us is the beginning of heaven's lowest levels.
Inorganic beings that we normally see in dreaming can transport you to
that first level of heaven, but that is as far as they can go. From
there you would need the assistance of the other kind of IB that lives
there to see the higher levels of heaven . Any sorcerer can visit heaven
and purgatory if they want to, but the funny thing is that it doesn't
really change anything, except maybe the person becomes more religious
after that. I didn't.
Jan 15, 2011 at 1:09 am
You: You are correct.
Perfectly agrees with Tri-loka scheme.
http://www.accesstoinsigh...f/dhamma/sagga/loka.html
And in the third realm, there are beings without bodies only in the form of cosmic counciousness.
The true Heavens is The Form Realm. There are Gods. They create whole worlds... Hence the "Form" realm.
And we are in "Hell". Here are the lower heavens.
Human beings are truly privileged..
We are free
Jan 13, 2011 at 12:48 pm
You: Have You tried to visit heavens in dreaming body ?
In pali canon Buddha is visiting heavens in his dreaming body
so when one is "light" enough not so somber it should be possible
What do You think abou that sir ? )
We can say dreaming restores proper human mythological dimension
potential.
Jan 13, 2011 at 1:27 pm
dreamways:
Yes, the first few months that first started having bright visions in
the daytime, I saw nothing but angels and they lectured me about the
difference between heaven and everything else. There is a feud between
them and the Jinn because they believe that the physical universe
belongs to god's angels and not the rebel angels who took it. They said
that hell was supposed to be the physical heaven but some angels refused
to come back to heaven when hell was first created, and they tried to
kill the angels that were sent to bring them back. Those angels are the
inorganic beings, and they were not cast into hell, they stole it. That
is what the angels told me, and that disagreement between the two sides
is still ongoing. Heaven's angels blame all the problems in this
universe on the other angels, because they "twisted god's plan." The
Jinn, on the other hand, point out that heaven's angels have become
crazy with hate over their defeat and should not be trusted. Apparently,
the creation of sorcerers was caused by heaven's angels trying to
destroy the Jinn on Earth, but it backfired and we were created.
Sorcerers are human mixed with the other angels, so we don't really fit
in completely anywhere and are not obligated to abide by any covenant.
Heaven's angels told me that someday god would make a covenant with
sorcerers, but that day hasn't come yet, so we are still on our own.
Since there is nothing we can do about issues between angels, I just
don't write about it much.
Jan 14, 2011 at 11:35 pm
You: And are You still capable to assemble and visit a heavenly world and even a more higher worlds in the dreaming ?
To visit it actually same as You visit Don Juan in his world ?
Jan 15, 2011 at 12:48 am
dreamways:
Yes, I still travel there occasionally. But, I see angels as just a
different kind of inorganic being, maybe a better kind, but still not
human, so I don't think it is a good idea to listen to them too much.
Inorganic beings, aliens, angels and jinn are all the same thing, and
some of them live in heaven and some don't. Heaven is the region or part
of creation that is truly non-physical, but it is still within the
scope of science to understand it someday. Since hell is physical, I'm
sure that scientist will understand it first. All creation that is
physical is part of the hell domain, and that includes this universe and
Earth itself. Sure, there is a core to hell and a core to heaven, but
technically we are living in hell, the top most level to be exact. The
very next level above us is the beginning of heaven's lowest levels.
Inorganic beings that we normally see in dreaming can transport you to
that first level of heaven, but that is as far as they can go. From
there you would need the assistance of the other kind of IB that lives
there to see the higher levels of heaven . Any sorcerer can visit heaven
and purgatory if they want to, but the funny thing is that it doesn't
really change anything, except maybe the person becomes more religious
after that. I didn't.
Jan 15, 2011 at 1:09 am
You: You are correct.
Perfectly agrees with Tri-loka scheme.
http://www.accesstoinsigh...f/dhamma/sagga/loka.html
And in the third realm, there are beings without bodies only in the form of cosmic counciousness.
The true Heavens is The Form Realm. There are Gods. They create whole worlds... Hence the "Form" realm.
And we are in "Hell". Here are the lower heavens.
Human beings are truly privileged..
We are free