MAGICAL PASSES

[Le_Regard]

Seriously, isn't this so much easier when we agree on what words mean first?  Magical passes magical passes magical passes.

[glance left]

I'm just floating along inwardly doing the white dove/black crow dance.  The words have meaning for a moment, amidst the posting/conversation and then they disappear to where they came from.  Keep things light and flexible.  Thus, "meaning" is flexible too, without giving up precision when needed.

The hawk reminds me of the recapitulation breath, which is a Magical Pass.  Remember a scene in which I was energetically severed/diverted...and recovering what was lost inhaling/exhaling as the head pans back and forth.  The eyes (closed) scan the scene for pertinent details as the head sweeps gently back and forth...until what was lost is recovered and what was artificially injected (emotion reaction/others' projections) is expelled...and then can blow the scene away with a final sweeping breath, like a sand mandala

[Le_Regard]

It seems to me like the trick to a Magical Pass is letting it PASS.  There's a sensation of not being able to tell whether the assemblage is passing through a field of emanations or whether the emanations are passing through the assemblage point.

[Le_Regard]

glance left wrote:
The hawk reminds me of the recapitulation breath, which is a Magical Pass.  Remember a scene in which I was energetically severed/diverted...and recovering what was lost inhaling/exhaling as the head pans back and forth.  The eyes (closed) scan the scene for pertinent details as the head sweeps gently back and
Yeah, I have no idea how it was breathing but I think it was something like that, except it's head was moving way more than just back and forth, it was wobbling through all three dimensions.

[glance left]

Le_Regard wrote:
It seems to me like the trick to a Magical Pass is letting it PASS.  There's a sensation of not being able to tell whether the assemblage is passing through a field of emanations or whether the emanations are passing through the assemblage point.

Agree, this is key for me. 

Magical Passes seem to provide a jolt to the tensional-structural elements to elicit a signature thrumming energy throughout.  Then, if I "let it pass"....or allow, in silence (silence is much easier to uphold while placing awareness on that thrumming), the assemblage point automatically shifts.  And the allowance, in terms of your post, is 2-fold (or many more-fold, maybe, but for the discussion at hand 2-fold).  The allowance allows the AP to pass and shift, assembling new emanations....and the allowance allows for open, conscious engagement of those new emanations passing through.  i.e. enhanced awareness of the newly assembled emanations.  i.e. more aware of the shifted perception than the habitual perception preceding it

[Le_Regard]

glance left wrote:
The hawk reminds me of the recapitulation breath, which is a Magical Pass.  Remember a scene in which I was energetically severed/diverted...and recovering what was lost inhaling/exhaling as the head pans back and forth.  The eyes (closed) scan the scene for pertinent details as the head sweeps gently back and forth...until what was lost is recovered and what was artificially injected (emotion reaction/others' projections) is expelled...and then can blow the scene away with a final sweeping breath, like a sand mandala



I've been doing the magical pass I learned from a hawk, and I'm a little concerned that if I keep doing it I will turn into a hawk.

[Le_Regard]

Le_Regard wrote:

I've been doing the magical pass I learned from a hawk, and I'm a little concerned that if I keep doing it I will turn into a hawk.

Lol, ok, jus to clarify, the head/eye movements relates to an issue I have with my neck because of the way I have to look at a computer screen at work, and if I were to turn into a hawk at work that would probably not go well for me.

[Le_Regard]

Le_Regard wrote:
Le_Regard wrote:

I've been doing the magical pass I learned from a hawk, and I'm a little concerned that if I keep doing it I will turn into a hawk.

Lol, ok, jus to clarify, the head/eye movements relates to an issue I have with my neck because of the way I have to look at a computer screen at work, and if I were to turn into a hawk at work that would probably not go well for me.

Actually nevermind, *** it, maybe they'll give me a promotion.  I'll start putting "can turn into a hawk" on my resume.

[Le_Regard]

There is a standing martial arts/qi gong form that I do sometimes, and today I tried doing it as a SERIES OF MAGICAL PASSES instead.

It works. Not only that, but you the head movements I learned from a hawk showed me how to stay attuned to sights or sounds in my environment (unconscious head/eye movements towards whatever it is) without losing the energy flow.

So all I did was experiment with some magical passes, and all of a sudden I LEARNED KUNG FU FROM AN ACTUAL HAWK.

I can be really critical sometimes, but just to be clear about that I also give credit where credit is due and this tensegrity stuff is all right.

[watergaze]

this is quite a nice progression... and exactly how I have found it to work for myself. One opens up to something and teachers are everywhere = learning is just waiting to happen for those who are curious and open. 

glance, I really loved reading your posts here too .
Thnx guys for a nice read.

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I will respond to two things from the thread.
glance wrote: used to meditate on death.......imagining various ways of dying.  A favorite was in being decapitated.  Head ripped off in a car accident.  Guillotine in the 18 century.  Head bitten off by a great white shark.  Head sawn off by Jihadi John   Gruesome, I know....but the intent behind the practice was simply to detach and expand to something beyond compulsive clinging to self, particularly at the level of thoughts....and to open up the throat, third eye, crown chakras wide open.
Le_Regard wrote:Really? But isn't it mostly the lower chakras that are the ones that don't want to die?
I wrote this already in RF, but for Le-Regard I'm gonna say it here too. Decapitating is an old shamanic hm what to call it not exactly ritual. An actual thing that they did in the past, today in neo/core-shamanism it is done more symbolically but in deep states of awareness. The effect is profound and shifts the person for a few days. 
It is the mind that often rules people and that has trouble getting in sync with the other parts of the body. In shamanism all of the body is intelligent and aware (duh). But the mind in the people of the modern world has taken over control. This stops the other intelligence to manifest and help us during our lives. 
The need to understand everything links to that... overactive mind. The mind, as well as all other parts of ourselves, need balance. 
Ofc one could take this further into other layers of awareness... not just mind and body. But this is where I first started to see the differences. My body would become a lot more fluid and well free to express... a great thing.

Plus in dreams this is how we often function, we do not have the same type of mind control as we do in the waking world. We use more of our full body awareness/processing/understanding. And it is quite a helpful thing to activate more in one's waking life.

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Le_Regard wrote:It's not enough for me to find some wise being, ask for my own special perfect medicine, and take it. That's not enough at all. I need to understand how it works. I don't know why, I just do.

Maybe it's enough for most people, but there's at least one type of person who needs to know ALL the medicines, and ALL the conditions, and that's a doctor. Nothing wrong with wanting to be a doctor, right?
there are different types of knowing. Understanding is only one form . I doubt though that a doctor understands all about how each medicine works (chemically, physically, what consequences it actually has etc). Seeking understanding is a great drive, I have met many who have embarked on the seekers path with this drive. I hope it serves you well. And I am sure it will lead to understanding of different ways of knowledge too .

I was kinda like you with wanting to understand everything. These things that happen that have no overt clear meaning or purpose would get me quite perplexed and frustrated hehe. It was something I had to deal with/ let go or I'd go crazy. And once that happened I started seeing things I had not before. I still dont understand everything but there is a reasonable hope (based on experience) that I will understand more with more experiences and learning.

[Le_Regard]

watergaze wrote:this is quite a nice progression... and exactly how I have found it to work for myself. One opens up to something and teachers are everywhere = learning is just waiting to happen for those who are curious and open. 

glance, I really loved reading your posts here too .
Thnx guys for a nice read.

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I will respond to two things from the thread.
glance wrote: used to meditate on death.......imagining various ways of dying.  A favorite was in being decapitated.  Head ripped off in a car accident.  Guillotine in the 18 century.  Head bitten off by a great white shark.  Head sawn off by Jihadi John   Gruesome, I know....but the intent behind the practice was simply to detach and expand to something beyond compulsive clinging to self, particularly at the level of thoughts....and to open up the throat, third eye, crown chakras wide open.
Le_Regard wrote:Really? But isn't it mostly the lower chakras that are the ones that don't want to die?
I wrote this already in RF, but for Le-Regard I'm gonna say it here too. Decapitating is an old shamanic hm what to call it not exactly ritual. An actual thing that they did in the past, today in neo/core-shamanism it is done more symbolically but in deep states of awareness. The effect is profound and shifts the person for a few days. 
It is the mind that often rules people and that has trouble getting in sync with the other parts of the body. In shamanism all of the body is intelligent and aware (duh). But the mind in the people of the modern world has taken over control. This stops the other intelligence to manifest and help us during our lives. 
The need to understand everything links to that... overactive mind. The mind, as well as all other parts of ourselves, need balance. 

Plus in dreams this is how we often function, we do not have the same type of mind control as we do in the waking world. We use more of our full body awareness/processing/understanding. And it is quite a helpful thing to activate more in one's waking life.
Le_Regard wrote:It's not enough for me to find some wise being, ask for my own special perfect medicine, and take it. That's not enough at all. I need to understand how it works. I don't know why, I just do.

Maybe it's enough for most people, but there's at least one type of person who needs to know ALL the medicines, and ALL the conditions, and that's a doctor. Nothing wrong with wanting to be a doctor, right?
there are different types of knowing. Understanding is only one form . I doubt though that a doctor understands all about how each medicine works (chemically, physically, what consequences it actually has etc). Seeking understanding is a great drive, I have met many who have embarked on the seekers path with this drive. I hope it serves you well. And I am sure it will lead to understanding of different ways of knowledge too .

I was kinda like you with wanting to understand everything. These things that happen that have no overt clear meaning or purpose would get me quite perplexed and frustrated hehe. It was something I had to deal with/ let go or I'd go crazy. And once that happened I started seeing things I had not before. I still dont understand everything but there is a reasonable hope (based on experience) that I will understand more with more experiences and learning.In the Buddhist story that picture derives from, I think it was TWO female saints actually, they cut their heads off as proof of their attainment, but then they put them back on and start teaching.

[watergaze]

yep... it is not the goal to be without the head. The goal is to balance. The way the mind works shifts. 
Usually, in today's world the mind needs to control everything and it is the main thing that creates or upholds people's identities. And it is super scared of letting go of this control. "Fear is the first enemy of man" anyone? . It has helped us survive all this time and it worked so why change it? It is said it finds itself very important. 
So, cutting it off shows for a fact that one can survive without it and that one can function in a different way too. Getting it back again does not result in the same 'unhealthy' way of the mind dominating everything. 
It is a process, the mind becomes more secure with its new role with experience and actually starts to understand that it does not understand everything best. Sometimes other parts of the being are better to handle certain situations etc. But there are things that it is still good and even best for.

[Le_Regard]

watergaze wrote:yep... it is not the goal to be without the head. The goal is to balance. The way the mind works shifts. 
Usually, in today's world the mind needs to control everything and it is the main thing that creates or upholds people's identities. And it is super scared of letting go of this control. "Fear is the first enemy of man" anyone? . It has helped us survive all this time and it worked so why change it? It is said it find itself very important. 
So, cutting it off shows for a fact that one can survive without it and that one can function in a different way too. Getting it back again does not result in the same 'unhealthy' way of the mind dominating everything. 
It is a process, the mind becomes more secure with its new role with experience and actually starts to understand that it does not understand everything best. Sometimes other parts of the being are better to handle certain situations etc. But there are things that it is still good and even best for. She's all of that but it also really leads with more of a yogic sense control kind of thing. It emphasizes the senses.

[Le_Regard]

Le_Regard wrote:She's all of that but it also really leads with more of a yogic sense control kind of thing. It emphasizes the senses.
lol because most of your senses are in your head. It's not complicated

[watergaze]

yes, the senses... that makes sense / is in sync with what I was writing about.
I am not sure what a yogic sense control is as such, but the state I describe does awaken the senses and changes things linked to the senses.

[watergaze]

the senses are not exactly in your head Le_R. In a similar sense, memory is not just in your head either...

edit: ah you wrote 'most of' - sry missed that.

[Le_Regard]

watergaze wrote:the senses are not exactly in your head Le_R. In a similar sense, memory is not just in your head either...

edit: ah you wrote 'most of' - sry missed that.Maybe not SENSES... but both eyes, both ears, a nose, and a tongue.

[glance left]

"One opens up to something and teachers are everywhere = learning is just waiting to happen for those who are curious and open." WG

Yes, exactly this  

Trick is to stop inwardly doubting and let the one-thing-leads-to-another take me wherever its leading....even if that's far away from rigid formalism that preceded it

[glance left]

i.e. the formal series of Magical Passes and led to a more formal practice of formless movements that just follow their own impulses from one movement to the next.  They are effective....they redeploy energy....but there is no real structure which can be taught or, perhaps more importantly, to take credit for

To me, this follows the evolution of the recapitulation, which starts off rigid and formal....but then must becomes fluid and formless, allowing intent to direct the progression and depth

[watergaze]

Le_R wrote:Maybe not SENSES... but both eyes, both ears, a nose, and a tongue.
Aah, ok, I get your point . And then... you can see with the hands and the body, smelling I dunno... tasting... hmm links to touching.. tasting is touching the tongue .
the ears.. that one I am currently exploring... I'm finding it is about much more than hearing. Sorcerers say shifting the AP links to the eyes, well, it also can be done with the ears. I used to wonder on and off about how blind people do it, cause the way DJ/CC made it sound it would be like they had such a disadvantage that they might not be able to do ****... but no. It is just humans are so focused on the eyes... eyes are like the sun . Ears are the subtle hidden thing we got... well... and Im not sure it is just the ears either, but it links, they are part of that. It goes into the hollows of the head and links to pressure. And let us not forget that inside the ear we got balance and motion and such...
remember that ancient superstition about witches and crossing the water - I have my own interpretation of how this came to be a thing... it is cause we get so fucking sensitive . 

I would assume magical passes do have a link with all of this - balance and motion stuff linked to ears and to a degree hearing. One thing that also fascinated me when watching videos of people doing tensegrity is those sharp exhales and sounds that are done rhythmically when doing the passes. Right glance?

And, just to pitch in with my view of these passes stuff... I take the conventional passes to be a way to open up and find / do one's own movements. It seems to me that is exactly what CC did too. He started with some movements he was shown and then perfected them into Tensegrity. This is what is, imo, how it should continue. It is not something set in stone. And this is also why I really like glimpses of galnce's journey of movements too

[glance left]

. Yeah, the sharp exhale enlivens the jolt through the muscles and tendons which helps stimulate that thrumming vibration sensation

I agree about “seeing” with the ears. In fact, there is a Maigical Pass which helps open up energy around the ears to improve the capacity to “hear” energy, as opposed to seeing energy

[watergaze]

oh really? link?

I hear that one can use ears to navigate through the different worlds in dreaming. 
And ofc echolocation is how bats see... 
And sensing danger is much easier with the ears (the body in general) than just the eyes in terms of spatial awareness or movement - cause ears are not as limited by the angle they are directed towards as the eyes are
and and and and . 

Having said that, eyes are amazing ofc

You know... since we do gazing and such which links to seeing with the eyes... I wonder if there could be an equivalent to seeing/hearing with the ears. Is that what we do when we travel/drift to music? hmmm...

Well, yea, damn, seeing stuff is often linked to beats - drums, rattles and the like - but this also links to the feeling of rhythm with the body, not just hearing it with the ears...

[Le_Regard]

glance left wrote:"One opens up to something and teachers are everywhere = learning is just waiting to happen for those who are curious and open." WG

Yes, exactly this  

Trick is to stop inwardly doubting and let the one-thing-leads-to-another take me wherever its leading....even if that's far away from rigid formalism that preceded it  
I have found recently that that trick is harder than it sounds because the #1 obstacle to not inwardly doubting yourself is other people.

I know everyone SAYS be detached and it doesn't matter what anyone thinks, but that's just not true. There a billions of people, and yes you can hide from most them, but they all get a vote.

[glance left]

Hmmm....I’m not sure if that pass made it onto YouTube. It’s kind of obscure.  

To me, “hearing energy” links maybe to those weird sounds heard before making transition to WILD-type lucid dreaming.  

I have heard the occasional odd sound pop into gazing sessions too.....usually when gazing into darkness behind closed eyes

[Le_Regard]

Le_Regard wrote:glance left wrote:"One opens up to something and teachers are everywhere = learning is just waiting to happen for those who are curious and open." WG

Yes, exactly this  

Trick is to stop inwardly doubting and let the one-thing-leads-to-another take me wherever its leading....even if that's far away from rigid formalism that preceded it  
I have found recently that that trick is harder than it sounds because the #1 obstacle to not inwardly doubting yourself is other people.

I know everyone SAYS be detached and it doesn't matter what anyone thinks, but that's just not true. There a billions of people, and yes you can hide from most them, but they all get a vote.I sound crazy but no really in addition to the Taoist and Buddhist roots to Chinese qigong there is whole CONFUCIAN TRADITION that no one in the West in wants to talk about and caring about the energetic wellness of family and society is not really a new idea at all.