12-26-2013, 12:00 AM
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Do you see the computer screen in front of you? Where does the seeing of
this computer take place?
Possible answer: In the brain.
Ok, if you take your brain and go to another room, do you still see it?
No, you will not. You will remember seeing it, but you will no longer see
it.
So, the computer (or anything) is a very important part of this experience of
seeing, not just your brain.
So, does it take place in the computer? No, because if I remove the
computer, the experience also ceases.
The experience requires the object and the brain together somehow. We
know that. But the question is, where does the seeing take place? Here?
There? Both? Neither? Where??
Now, when does the seeing take place? When does it start?
Another question is, where does the seeing come from, before it takes place,
before you experience it? And where does it go after you are finished
experiencing it?
Consciousness.
Consciousness is the union of
perceiver-perception-perceived. The three and one, no one parts stands
alone. Without a perceiver, there can be no perception and nothing can be
perceived. Without perception, nothing is perceived, so there is no
perceiver. Without the perceived, there is no perception and no
perceiver. All three must exist to together to exist at all. They
are one, not three, and the one thing they are is consciousness.
Now it gets tricky. One may say there are actually two
types of consciousness; Tonal and Nagual. Tonal consciousness is the I-Am of
the perceiver-perception-perceived waking dreamstate. Tonal consciousness is
grounded in Nagual consciousness, which is undifferentiated and absolute; no
perceiver, no perception, no perceived.
How does one arise from the other? Tonal grounded in
Nagual?
Nagual consciousness is our absolute nature, Tonal
consciousness is our living reality. Consciousness is true, the contents
of consciousness are not.
Nagual consciousness is without features or
attributes. It has no conscience. It is not innately good or
evil. It’s not moral or spiritual. It has no heart, no bias, no
preference, no skin in the game. It’s not like the God or gods of our
hopes and dreams; it doesn’t take sides, it doesn’t prefer that you be good or
evolve, it doesn’t feed on praise or adoration, it doesn’t judge or care.
Love isn’t better than hate, goodness isn’t better than evil, pleasure isn’t
better than pain. Any this/not-that statement we make about nagual
consciousness must be false.
I-Am/Consciousness is just another way of saying
Tonal/Nagual consciousness. The I-Am part is Tonal consciousness, and the
consciousness part is Nagual consciousness.
Before the foreslash is self you as you know yourself, and
after the foreslash is the truth of you, no-self, which is timeless and
undifferentiated and all that. So the good news is, yes, you are immortal
in consciousness, but no, the you you think of as you, is not.
This might come as unwelcome news for those looking for
something a little more personal in the soul department, but on the bright
side, Nagual consciousness is an actual thing that actually exists and that you
have an actual claim to. Nagual consciousness may be no-self, but it is
the truth of you.
This may sound like a shitty deal to anyone who has a strong
sense of personal history and self importance, but after you’ve whittled it
down a bit and see what it’s really made of, you’ll be relieved to find
anything true under all those layers of false.
It’s like the tiny dustmote at the center of a fist-sized
ball of hail, the seminal something to which the moisture started to cling in
the first place. The ball of hail might have an oversized sense of itself
until it starts a rapid meltdown to nothingness, but then that tiny bit of dust
saves it from oblivion. It may not be a unique ice-rock anymore, but at
least it has a claim to existence. It’s not nothing.
SHM
Do you see the computer screen in front of you? Where does the seeing of
this computer take place?
Possible answer: In the brain.
Ok, if you take your brain and go to another room, do you still see it?
No, you will not. You will remember seeing it, but you will no longer see
it.
So, the computer (or anything) is a very important part of this experience of
seeing, not just your brain.
So, does it take place in the computer? No, because if I remove the
computer, the experience also ceases.
The experience requires the object and the brain together somehow. We
know that. But the question is, where does the seeing take place? Here?
There? Both? Neither? Where??
Now, when does the seeing take place? When does it start?
Another question is, where does the seeing come from, before it takes place,
before you experience it? And where does it go after you are finished
experiencing it?
Consciousness.
Consciousness is the union of
perceiver-perception-perceived. The three and one, no one parts stands
alone. Without a perceiver, there can be no perception and nothing can be
perceived. Without perception, nothing is perceived, so there is no
perceiver. Without the perceived, there is no perception and no
perceiver. All three must exist to together to exist at all. They
are one, not three, and the one thing they are is consciousness.
Now it gets tricky. One may say there are actually two
types of consciousness; Tonal and Nagual. Tonal consciousness is the I-Am of
the perceiver-perception-perceived waking dreamstate. Tonal consciousness is
grounded in Nagual consciousness, which is undifferentiated and absolute; no
perceiver, no perception, no perceived.
How does one arise from the other? Tonal grounded in
Nagual?
Nagual consciousness is our absolute nature, Tonal
consciousness is our living reality. Consciousness is true, the contents
of consciousness are not.
Nagual consciousness is without features or
attributes. It has no conscience. It is not innately good or
evil. It’s not moral or spiritual. It has no heart, no bias, no
preference, no skin in the game. It’s not like the God or gods of our
hopes and dreams; it doesn’t take sides, it doesn’t prefer that you be good or
evolve, it doesn’t feed on praise or adoration, it doesn’t judge or care.
Love isn’t better than hate, goodness isn’t better than evil, pleasure isn’t
better than pain. Any this/not-that statement we make about nagual
consciousness must be false.
I-Am/Consciousness is just another way of saying
Tonal/Nagual consciousness. The I-Am part is Tonal consciousness, and the
consciousness part is Nagual consciousness.
Before the foreslash is self you as you know yourself, and
after the foreslash is the truth of you, no-self, which is timeless and
undifferentiated and all that. So the good news is, yes, you are immortal
in consciousness, but no, the you you think of as you, is not.
This might come as unwelcome news for those looking for
something a little more personal in the soul department, but on the bright
side, Nagual consciousness is an actual thing that actually exists and that you
have an actual claim to. Nagual consciousness may be no-self, but it is
the truth of you.
This may sound like a shitty deal to anyone who has a strong
sense of personal history and self importance, but after you’ve whittled it
down a bit and see what it’s really made of, you’ll be relieved to find
anything true under all those layers of false.
It’s like the tiny dustmote at the center of a fist-sized
ball of hail, the seminal something to which the moisture started to cling in
the first place. The ball of hail might have an oversized sense of itself
until it starts a rapid meltdown to nothingness, but then that tiny bit of dust
saves it from oblivion. It may not be a unique ice-rock anymore, but at
least it has a claim to existence. It’s not nothing.
SHM