Listing What Forces/Powers/Beings That Exist In Our World.

[Guest]

Ok, but the feelings I felt were not annoyed or angry. Those are more related to what I call the regular awareness that perceives a here and there, a me you them dynamic. That is comforting, where as the other feeling I could not perceive individual entities so well. Everything felt like the same source, but it was not a blissful feeling.

[delawaredan]

I just read a part of The Art of Dreaming in which don Juan was revealing the impersonal nature of the spirit.     It reminds me of the Tool song I post in my thread on RF with the quote...the universe is hostile so impersonal.    It is not a scary feeling at all but a sense of peace, knowing the true nature of things.   This conversation pulls me to this thought.     Hell is never really hell.  Things just are what they are, and we find ways to maintain our energy body with cohesion.   If we have control over the ap shift, we can know that these states exist but have the fortitude to maintain whatever shift needed.       We banish the flyer when we have cohesion.

[Guest]

Well said Dan, and maybe I am picking up your mood as I feel more comforted by the preditorial nature atm and Senear's post on orange helped me a lot too, so thanks guys!

[delawaredan]

Before I left to Hawaii, NLW asked us to discuss the FI with others.    I was able to discuss with the 2 friends I mentioned prior....at the same time.   Steve....was non receptive and actually became so tired he fell asleep.  Maybe it was the FI ensuring he was not comprehending.   But I was able to speak to Dennis about the FI with such clarity that it amazed me.  I was not able to see the FI fleeing but I felt that the FI was gone and I was able to make him understand completely.    There was a feeling of peace at that moment and victory.

[Guest]

an interesting contrast of reactions, one could comprehend it the other could not or did not.

[delawaredan]

Ravenmoon....I am in a stange mood.  Although I feel very connected to you, NLW, and Senear....I was feeling isolated from Ravenfield.  There are a few there that seem to not connect with me...ever.   Maybe it is the fact that I am "behind the scenes".   I even had the thought that I wanted to speak to you about this.   However.....while trying to catch up on reading the threads in RF I came across this:
"Plus this story took place in Hobbs NM, which is where Dan has connections to." 
This made me feel connected immediatetly....and my connection to Hobbs is sitting next to me.   Sarah is visiting me for a week.   It makes me very happy.   It is hard not living with her anymore.  She lived with me in Delaware until 2011.  
Thank you

[Guest]

Oh I am so happy the Hobbs story was good timing then Yeah Dan I don't want you to feel that way there (isolated), I have felt that way there for a long time and then Senear arrived in RF and it changed, and then you showed up and now Glance, and since you all talk with me its has caused the other members to talk to me more. The exception is Dreamlyn who always made effort to talk to me in RF, the only thing with her is she was rarely there, lol. But yes, the European crowd is maybe different, and Fabs seems to be making more effort to mingle in other threads now and MS is doing a bit. But I feel strongly everyone is happy to have you there. Your contributions have been formative to that forum its easy to see that. So, yes, moods, I certainly know about that, and glad you communicated it here. We need to get more active here in DD. Funny today I was readying that thread about forming group ap's and Wolf specifically says we need to have the DD ap, which is different than RF, and once we establish it we need to protect it, which reminded me of my dream last night where the ladybug/dog symbol represents protection (the red in a ladybug is a warning to intruders) so it fits along the lines of the baby could represent an ap position and to importance of protecting it and nurturing it. I think I will just quote specifically what Wolf said about DD ap, and I feel this ap takes precedence over RF ap, even through RF tends to be more active, that is only due to there is less commitment there and so people flock there more readily. The ap here however is more valuable (but don't tell them I said that



Nagual Lonewolf wrote: You should form a AP for this fellowship (DD). Once the link is formed protect it, learn to move to it. Engage your power, engage the spirit, engage with strength and open up your awareness. http://sorcery.yuku.com/topic/3367/The- ... lage-Point

[Senear]

thank you for posting this Dan. I felt this feeling from you, and was worried i had done something wrong. Maybe posted a too long thing in your thread that you didnt like, etc. The day after your dream night i felt it most strongly, and its my nature to presume ive done something wrong. Thank you for stating your feelings. Its just like RM said. She was the only one talking to me really the first month. Watergaze just started to more before and after you came. I was glad when you came, and still are, because you talk to people without concern for your opinions or agenda, if thats the right word. Not that others have an agenda ....thats a negative word. there are some people there they really dont interact with anyone, its not you. Its way better then before. and they are trying to reach out more too. dont get discouraged. And feel free to post lots of videos in my thread for that i love it lol.

[Guest]

baby is connected to tenant too. My second visit to the Church, I was with a friend and we just walked by it, but a toy was propped up on the stone wall where the wolf statue is (near it) and then a lady came out (not tenant I don't think) and she had on a t-shirt that said "its Witchcraft" shirt was black and lettering was white and there was a pentagram under the writing. She passed by the babydoll and then she took a picture of it. My friend asked me "why is she taking that picture?" like she found it odd lady did that. But I saw it was an omen of that babydoll linked to the witchcraft (sorcery) and thus a link to us and Tenant. Then the next day or so I heard this song on radio, and it was like I heard it for the first time. I was listening to the words and thinking it was a song I related to. I hit the button that tells me on the radio screen who teh artist and title is, and it said it was by the baby's. I was like "whoa, thats a connect." because I had just been to the Church with those very omens of baby. And there have been more, and more. Here is the song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3ohoUV5Ktc
so we form an ap link here and protect it, nurture it. Like we would our child.
And since we are "growing this"...another song by them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxCfLfkl ... re=related

[delawaredan]

Our DD AP is strong, already.  I would never have a negative feeling towards Senear, or any other memeber of RF.   I am the type who sees past negativity and I always reach out to others and extend friendship.  I have always been a loaner too....and I feel there may be a lot going on in RF for me.  It could be that I am trying to catch up from being away...but everytime I read a thread, I am prepared to add my input as to one topic or another but by the time I finish reading, I am exhusted from all the back and forth.   Don't get me wrong, I am happy everyone is connecting and there is cohesion there.   I was just in a weird mood...probably coming down off of the high of being in Hawaii. 
Senear is right, I do not care what people think of me and I have no agenda, but I think that statement brings to light the true source of my detachment I am feeling.   It is ironic that this is the case becuase I do not care what others think of me.     As in society in general, and in particular this lineage of sorcery......I do not feel total accpetance.   This is self inflicted due to the fact that I do not fit in with 90% of the world.....sorcerer or non sorcerer.    I have aways been an outcast, my weight, my religious beliefs, and my sexuality.   So yes...I am gay.    And I am not sure how this would affect me here but I feel as if I cannot be my true self sometimes.    It is not a choice to be gay.  I have tried to live a straight life and I even have a daughter.   I am the being that I am.    But in all seriousness..this is a topic not touched upon in CC's writings and it is the only place that I am not "out".  
So..I come out to you and want you all to know my true being and energy.

[Guest]

Dan, I am confused, I never said or indicated you would have negative feeling for anyone, what is going on here? In that wow, my post to you was a positive, about you and about everyone.

[delawaredan]

my post was positive too.  Senear thought that I thought he did something "wrong" on my thread.   That was all I was referencing.   It was kinda of funny to see that was your only reaction to my last post......I really like you RM, a lot.

[Guest]

Good cause I like you a lot too. You said "Senear is right" which seemed to further build upon an idea I thought you were saying my post was being negative, like senear got it right, was how I took it, and that you felt my post was off base (in truth I see our posts similar and perhaps you did too).



And you said our AP here is already strong, I agree, and I only meant we need to be more active here to maintain it here. I know the reason we don't do that and its not a bad one, it more that we just spend so much time in RF, lol. But understandibly so, because so many posts to read and active dreaming etc. But I meant we need to work on it here more, but no fault of anyone. And I said I knew you both were good fits from very beginning. So, just your post said a lot of things that seemed to disagree with my post, and if that was all my interpretation, I will toss it, absolutely. I just knwo when I posted to you I felt warm feelings and even it prompted the song lol. So as long as you got that out of it, I am content of being understood. If not, I want to clarify anything, part of maintaining our ap here.

[delawaredan]

yes....you are now correct....LOL.   I got the warm feelings.   that is why I came out as well.   I wanted you to know the real me.   maybe my awkwardness  in regards to saying I was gay caused  me not to be clear.  By saying senear was right, does not mean you were wrong.   Also...I agree we need to continue to strengthen our AP, but I wanted to acknowledge how cohesive we already are.

[Guest]

BTW, sorry that I did not address your sharing of personal information in last post. Your being gay is absolutely a non issue with me (like it did not phase me at all, I have a gay cousin, gay aunt, gay friends, gay co workers) and I totally relate to the things your said about having all these factors that cause many people to see you as different. You probably agree with me I imagine that its a positive we get these types of challenges, but indeed it makes us lone wolves, but the real lone wolf in us pertains to the nagual link, and society in a general way maybe senses this and thus treats us different. Some people may even see us a witches and warlocks, I know at my job with afghan women (years ago) they found out I had a black cat and they all gave each other scared looks. I said "what?" and one of them told me that in their country witches have black cats and the cats are dead beings living in the cat. I was, to myself of course, thinking "cool, they think I'm a witch, do I look witchy? I hope so, lol. Witchy Woman.



Glad you got the warm sentiment. So no need for me say any more then, you got it I am happy and I see no disagreements, only we sorted some stuff out. I like your being candid, your post here about RF and about your personal life, it enables me to know you more, and I like that. I tend to share alot about myself too, you will come across in threads and may already have. But here most of all is where we can say what we would maybe hold back saying elsewhere.

[Senear]

Yes it, your personal details around your sexuality, are also a non issue from my perspective. But i could see how that might lend itself to feeling disconnected, or at least worrying about it. Whats more to the point, is putting too much emphasis on connecting in dreaming. It hardly ever goes to plan, and sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't, not something to worry about or feel like there is smoothing there you aren't getting/connecting with. That state of getting it is an illusion non state anyway...i mean shared dreaming.  For the forums, when one is not being regarded, connecting,  what i do is double down and put more of myself...my dreams and joy and self out there. Just play, and those id hope to connect with notice, like you for example, and the ones that wont dont want to are self absorbed, well, no matter what they wont anyway so no use, for me festering over that fact. Better to laugh at my own fears then snarl at the shadows they, fear, cast on the wall.

[delawaredan]

Senear - Thanks...every time I remember any dream, I put it out there.   I do find if helps.   In reagards to sexuality, it has been playing on my mind a lot lately.  I know that sexual energy is the same energy we use for dreaming.   Recently, an old thread resurfaced about sexual energy which is why I feel it has been heavy on my mind.   Also, we are very connected to each other in a warrior party and I did not want anything kept from you all.   It is really no big deal for me.  I have lived this way for 41 years.     I am always true to myself.
Raven - thank you for being you.

[Guest]

On sexual energy, yes lots of talk about it on warrior forums, and I think I know which thread you mean...seesaws. Much is said about it on opinion level too, meaning I have seen contrasting viewpoints in many threads. My personal feeling is there is no right or wrong usage of it in warrior terms, it depends entirely on context. I have had people tell me very solidified conclusions but they just never added up in my own experience to be true. Like for example, I was celebate for 2 years, it did not help my dreaming, nor did I see it offer a boost. I finally decided its up to each individual to decide. Power works in many ways and in many ways power works.

[Guest]

A question for members:

How good are you at stopping your internal dialog when...





in normal mode?



in stress mode?



so two questions really.



I feel this is an important topic right now which is why I ask.

[Senear]

In normal mode, when im happy ish, it sneaks up on me easier. Gaurd is down so to speak. Had a brush of that today. When im under stress, i tend to shut it down easier.

[Guest]

Yes, same for me. The reason being the stress is the incentive to silence the culprit.



But if we have 20% stress and 80% no stress or little stress, lets say...that's 80% of time we do almost nothing to silence out thoughts...speaking for myself first and foremost. Lots of energy (awareness) can be redirected by changing this.

[Senear]

Thats a good observation, and true. I wonder if thats what wolf means when he says "be like a spartan". Tahts the thing about the legendary spartans, they were always not stressed, but perched ready for battle at all times. Or so the goal was right?

[delawaredan]

Same here.   When I am happy, I tend to let my inner voice go unchecked.   But then again.  I am only truly happy when I stop the internal dialogue.

[Senear]

truly happy and lulled into complacency are different though ive noticed lol. But still thats a good point, being truly happy requires clarity.

[Guest]

Yes, Spartan, makes me want to look up definition...I will do that...



ok, the word dictionary gave me 3:



1. Resolute in the face of pain, danger or adversity



2. Unsparing and uncompromising in discipline or judgment



3. Practicing great self-denial



They are all good imo...but I will go with number 3