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Most Vivid So Far
#1
About two weeks ago I had the most vivid dreaming experience I've had so far...and I want to share it and see what you all think about it. Whatever you think, just share if you so desire, because you can't offend me and I'm not looking for anything other than some axillary input and hopefully this will lead to expanded perception for both me and anyone who shares their thoughts on this.
The content of the dream isn't really what I want to focus on, mainly because it wasn't an unusual storyline for me...more or less it was along the same lines as many of my experiences and don't really have any relevance, I don't think, for anyone other than me...and sometimes I wonder what relevant really means. LOL

Anyway, I'll spare the boring stuff and just share what really impacted me when I began to ponder the details after I woke up and ever since I think of it from time to time and still kind of trip out, but in a good way.
There's just two things, really, that brought the vividness to my awareness. The first one is that I had this wound on my hand, the palm, sort of like what the dark age artists rendered on the hands of the crucified Jesus. It was like a puncture wound/dimple-like wound and rather small. It wasn't bleeding but for some reason there was a dog in my dream that acted like it had caught the scent of the wound somehow and was very interested in it. I kept shooing him away but finally he got near enough to nip at my hand and he had good aim because he did get a tooth or something in the sore spot/wound. He nipped at it several times and I felt it! Each time he got me, I felt it a little more acutely, just as I would here in the ordinary world. It felt no different than it would feel if it were happening now. I got a little irritated and my hand got sore...I remember looking at it and thinking "that damn dog is making it hurt!"
I have never felt physical sensation in my dreaming world/self before, that I can recall. I have had awareness of touching and being touched but it was a visual awareness rather than a physical one. In this case, I felt the dog nip me before I saw him doing it.
Now, the second thing is that there was an incident where water got splashed off of a glass wall like area and it splattered on me and I felt it, too!
There is actually a third thing that I wanted to share, that I just remembered about...but it seems to be perhaps the most significant.
I have been aware of my dreaming for quite some time, probably as far back as I can recall I have known myself to be dreaming when dreaming. And even when the situation is unpleasant and I'd like to leave...I know I am just dreaming and I just go along with it because it isn't a scary or threatening thing to me to be dreaming. although once in a while it gets tiresome for various reasons...I just want to be done with that particular activity/experience but I carry on through its completion, whatever it is.
Yet, in this dream, when certain repetitive things took place, that are frequently scripted in my dreaming, I had this thought, more or less verbatim: "Damn! This is happening just like it happens when I'm dreaming!"
I wasn't hoping for the finale of the evening but rather was frustrated and somewhat irritated that now my waking life and my dreaming life were enacting the very same script instead of one being the relief of the other, and vice versa.
And my memory of that moment when I thought that thought is just as vivid as it was when I woke up...I truly and literally said that in all sincerity, believing myself to be in the ordinary waking world, not dreaming.
This dream was so vivid and stable and all things like that...that I literally did not realize I was dreaming! And I know I was fully aware as usual because when I woke up, it was more like a continuance of thought rather than waking up...and I was shocked and surprised (and a little relieved!) to realize that I HAD been dreaming...it was not my waking ordinary world but my equally familiar shadowy borderland that I was returning from...I couldn't believe that I had had absolutely NO IDEA that I was dreaming! I hadn't been foggy when I had the thought of things being the same in the waking as in the dreaming...I actually thought I was awake in my normal daytime world!

I've just never made such a gigantic error in judging my surroundings and the realm in which I was moving! It doesn't bother me that I didn't realize I was dreaming, not at all, so when I say error I just mean that my assessment was so totally off it could only be called ERROR...BZZZTTT...wrong answer!


I've been dreaming several times since this happened and it hasn't repeated itself and I haven't had any perception of any problems or issues arising from the experience, at all...but it is very intriguing to me as well as delightful to ponder on because it was so "out of the ordinary."
Thoughts, anyone? Has anyone had a similar experience? Is there anything in the writings of CC that might be related to such an experience?
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#2
Becoming Lucid in dreaming is the very first practice of a dreamer. By being lucid and aware we can use the experience and access it again and again to be more lucid. The goal is to be aware of leaving the body and forming the dreaming body's double. Nice post Bel!
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#3
Yes great dreaming!
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#4
Thanks for your replies, friends. I am currently out of town for my mom to have cataract surgery and we are staying at my aunt's in the Rio Grande valley...AT&T isn't so 3G down in the valley so I haven't been able to reply until now.
I understand about lucidity in dreaming and that's what confused me...it seems that when I did NOT realize I was dreaming that I was on the other end of the seesaw from lucid. But still, I acted within my dream and made decisions upon which I acted...so really nothing changed as far as that goes. It was the sensations, perhaps, that caused my thinking I was in the ordinary instead of the second.
Since I began my dreaming life long before I read Castaneda - and to be honest, I haven't yet read his work in its entirety or even close to 1/3, although it is very familiar to me when I do have the time to read - I didn't go the usual route such as glancing at my hands and such...so recently I went to bed with the intent of checking out the quality of my dreaming environment - did it shimmer? were there details? how did it seem?
That night I had a very interesting dream which I will share soon on another thread since it is of its own topic, but what applies here is that I looked around and the details were complete down to even the baseboards on the wall and all that kind of thing...no leaking of transparency around the edges as I thought maybe there would be...it was just as solid as my waking world.
Having the dream with the sensation of the dog bite and water splashing has made me see just how unreal reality is if compared to what most think of as not real. Life IS just a dream and so is a dream also just life!
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#5
Yes, just experienced this a few nights past in dreaming. I am an avid swimmer, water as an element. I swim daily in a lake during summer months with and have a relationship with the water is the only way I can describe It. The coolness, fluidness are the experience, swimming is an agreement with the water. Now to the dream. I wandered scapes of water in places I'd never imagine, larger than life. In the end I was at the ocean and I rode the waves. I could feel that powerful force of the waves, it just sort of picks you up and carries you where it may. And I tasted the salt water, felt it on my skin. And now in wakefullness, I can draw all of that up and experience it, at will. Try and draw that sensation of the water now. "one can perceive the world with the senses as well as with the will...when we perceive the world with the will we know that it is not as 'out there' or 'as real' as we think"DJ Have you been bitten by a dog before and can you see a purpose to experiencing that hurt at will? Hopefully someone here knows, it would be interesting (but I hope it doesn't happen to you again!)
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#6
Hi Cedar Waxing,



Interesting post, you just connected a dot for me. You say water your element, and now I realize that being an air sign that my lucid dreams are of flying up into to sky, or really it just feels like jumping up and taking off. this almost always is a characteristic of my lucid dreams.
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#7
LOL..I see your connected dots...and raise you my own I'm an air sign as well...and almost always take to the air (or try to ) when I'm lucid. Its as natural a compulsion as breathing
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#8
Glance wrote: "LOL..I see your connected dots...and raise you my own "



LOL Glance, I was reading through some other posting late last night, after i had made this comment and saw you talk about jumping and taking off....it was your vampire dream I think. I knew you were an air sign then.



DG
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#9
Nice pick up
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#10
I want to ask every nagual woman ( harvester) and writer in here one question: what is the Eagle's blow?
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#11
It's the good ****!
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#12
LOL...sry about that. I don't know! Is it different from the Nagual's Blow?
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#13
Ok...will try. It's a blow that rises up through the manifestation of ones circumstances which has no locality or form that can be pin pointed whatsoever. Its different from the blow of the nagual in this respect. The blow utterly disrupts ones sense of certainty at a very deep level, to the point that one either faces and embraces the unshakeable reality and inevitability of ones death, standing firm....or one withers in the face of it, to contract in fear until death is upon them. It is the end of the known, one way or another
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#14
PerSyd wrote:
I want to ask every nagual woman ( harvester) and writer in here one question: what is the Eagle's blow?It's the energetic anti-matterĀ blast that disintegrates awareness and returns it to its base components.
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#15
breathe
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#16
forget even breathe

there is no wrong or right answer
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#17
True!! Thank you warrior-poet The truth of the validity of myriad points of perspective. How could I compare the import of one moment to the next? Breathe, yes...and know that Infinity is bathing every moment indiscriminately
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