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Enchantra wrote:
I guess, from Nu Lang's perspective, it's kind of like when you date a man that's a jerk or abusive or a loser. Before things get serious several people warn you but you just won't hear it. His ex girlfriends might tell you he's no good, his buddies might warn you to stay away from him, and your parents and siblings might tell you to steer clear, but still, you might be inclined to see for yourself. After all, he might change, things might be different with you.
Humans like to experience some things for themselves, train wrecks included I guess.
After the train has crashed, it is easier to see the track we should have stayed on.
Absolutely. Having been on WAY too many train wrecks, I've learned to listen to the warnings and read the writing on the wall. Hard lesson, too.
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Actually, neither of you understood what I was saying about energy. I was talking about something quite different then what you speak of here.
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Nu Lang wrote:
Actually, neither of you understood what I was saying about energy. I was talking about something quite different then what you speak of here.Then perhaps you can explain further. Be impeccable with your word. Heh.
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@ Nu Lang -
I think what is meant here is that regardless of the group dynamic, if the person in question is the same as was experienced before on other forums, the result will be the same. If you don't mind being stalked and slam dunked, then by all means encourage dialog. I, for one, would prefer it. Enchantra and Alien appear to have had enough.
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I forgot to add I also enjoy train wrecks.
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Gonzo wrote:I forgot to add I also enjoy train wrecks.LOL No need to state it, we are aware.
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Nu Lang wrote:
I meant the group energy is different, such as I'm here and I was not in the past instances you describe, and I believe Lex is a new one too (that he did not interact with Sedna before this forum). So I mean our energy/awareness is new to whatever happened previously that you feel will repeat. Truly there cannot be a repeat due to different people's energy which changes things.Sorry to jump in here, no time to read back all that has been going on...I have no idea and don't care. However, NL, seeing your statement in someone else's diatribe stuck out to me. Unfortunately much of what is in this forum is rubish for a new person because I don't have the background information and no one cares to fill it in, so what one gets is a lot of disconnected nonsense...nothing personal, just saying.
However, in response to your statement, the people in this forum will continue to repeat their patterns until they do the work to get over their patterns. I cannot comment on the person in question because I don't know enough and I am not interested in taking anyone's word for it, however, I can comment on some of the responses I have seen here and it sounds to me like some here are not over their patterning. Alien said that only ordinary men are offended by the misdeeds of others and Alien seems to be, at least to me, offended by the person in question. It seems clear to me.
In order for their to be a different result, those who are not free of their patterning will need to free themselves first.
Lastly, I thought talk about it was suppose to stop. Apparently it is ok for some here to talk about it and not others. I would like to hear from Gonzo about it as Gonzo seemed to have a clear handle on what took place. Maybe it was stalking and maybe it wasn't, I just don't know. I'd like to know though...and I would like to be given the opportunity to know since I came here looking to learn about stalking and put a significant amount of time into the effort.
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@Sedna -
I'd be glad to fill you in however, the mod has placed a restriction. If the restriction gets lifted, I'll do so. Otherwise, perhaps PM or email.
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Sedna wrote:
Nu Lang wrote:
I meant the group energy is different, such as I'm here and I was not in the past instances you describe, and I believe Lex is a new one too (that he did not interact with Sedna before this forum). So I mean our energy/awareness is new to whatever happened previously that you feel will repeat. Truly there cannot be a repeat due to different people's energy which changes things.Sorry to jump in here, no time to read back all that has been going on...I have no idea and don't care. However, NL, seeing your statement in someone else's diatribe stuck out to me. Unfortunately much of what is in this forum is rubish for a new person because I don't have the background information and no one cares to fill it in, so what one gets is a lot of disconnected nonsense...nothing personal, just saying.
However, in response to your statement, the people in this forum will continue to repeat their patterns until they do the work to get over their patterns. I cannot comment on the person in question because I don't know enough and I am not interested in taking anyone's word for it, however, I can comment on some of the responses I have seen here and it sounds to me like some here are not over their patterning. Alien said that only ordinary men are offended by the misdeeds of others and Alien seems to be, at least to me, offended by the person in question. It seems clear to me.
In order for their to be a different result, those who are not free of their patterning will need to free themselves first.
Lastly, I thought talk about it was suppose to stop. Apparently it is ok for some here to talk about it and not others. I would like to hear from Gonzo about it as Gonzo seemed to have a clear handle on what took place. Maybe it was stalking and maybe it wasn't, I just don't know. I'd like to know though...and I would like to be given the opportunity to know since I came here looking to learn about stalking and put a significant amount of time into the effort.
You're a hoot to talk about "patterning" when you are the one repeating the same old patterns, trying to pass yourself off as a newbie, pretending to be an innocent bystander, all the while stirring the pot with clumsy attempts at NLP and outright lies and misquotes. This post of yours is a prime example. I have never said I am offended by ForestWolf, nor you. Find the word "offended" in any of my posts as an adjective used to describe my state of mind and I'll agree with you.
The reason you say Gonzo has a clear handle on it is because you have been attempting to stalk Gonzo for years - either to cultivate an ally or create an adversary. Without allies and adversaries, you have no war, and since divide and conquer is clearly your game - and always has been - it stands to reason that your MO has not altered, just your avatar and your alternym. *yawns*
The problem with you is that your character is not well-developed. You cannot and WILL not answer the question "Who are you?" because you clearly have not thought "Sedna" through well enough to provide even a convincing back-story. So it's easier for you to claim I am offended than to answer the question. Maybe Digital Noir can give you a hand with your world-building and character development skills.
Give up the games, my old friend. We could have been friends, but you will not allow it because you cannot allow anyone to be your equal. Why does that scare you so very, very much? Why do you hide in the shadows and pretend to "teach" when it is so terribly obvious that you are the one who most needs to learn - particularly with regard to the right way to live. How are your actions helping anyone else? How are they even remotely helping yourself?
Who are you? I'll keep asking, on the off chance it might occur to you that you really can't hide behind the current false identity anymore than you could hide behind all the others... not to mention at least one other head on the hydra here in this forum right now. I see you. Others do, too. Do you?
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To the moderator...
For some reason, I notice that some posts are showing up twice, including mine. Just FYI... if someone wants to delete the duplicate of my post, that would be great. Gracias...
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Nu Lang wrote:
I meant the group energy is different, such as I'm here and I was not in the past instances you describe, and I believe Lex is a new one too (that he did not interact with Sedna before this forum). So I mean our energy/awareness is new to whatever happened previously that you feel will repeat. Truly there cannot be a repeat due to different people's energy which changes things.
Truly there cannot be a repeat due to different people's energy which changes things. NL
I can only listen to my own heart on this one. I personally like the energy that Sedna brings to the forum,( reminds me much like the energy that Dreamways, and Per Syd give when partisipating at PP). I found them resourceful, charming and harmless. But if you recall , I was banned shortly after this for maybe being approving of this sort of energy. But, I also really appreciate and listen to the wisdom that flows from Alien, Dantura 8, and Enchantra as they present their experience and nature of stalking Sedna. If there IS a lesson to be learnt for oneself then one will be able to figure out the reality of Sedna's nature sooner or later.
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alien wrote:To the moderator...
For some reason, I notice that some posts are showing up twice, including mine. Just FYI... if someone wants to delete the duplicate of my post, that would be great. Gracias...Done...de nada
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alien, to answer your question about energy, I meant energy is a catalyst for change. It depends on intent and awareness.
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Nu Lang wrote:
alien wrote:
To the moderator...
For some reason, I notice that some posts are showing up twice, including mine. Just FYI... if someone wants to delete the duplicate of my post, that would be great. Gracias...Done...de nada
Thanks.
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However, in response to your statement, the people in this forum will continue to repeat their patterns until they do the work to get over their patterns. -SednaYou're a person in this forum. You have 118 posts here already.
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ninth octave wrote:
. But, I also really appreciate and listen to the wisdom that flows from Alien, Dantura 8, and Enchantra as they present their experience and nature of stalking Sedna. If there IS a lesson to be learnt for oneself then one will be able to figure out the reality of Sedna's nature sooner or later.
Let's be clear, I am not stalking Sedna, by pointing out that I see who she is and recalling past experiences with her. I see. I stalk myself.
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ninth octave wrote:
I can only listen to my own heart on this one. I personally like the energy that Sedna brings to the forum,( reminds me much like the energy that Dreamways, and Per Syd give when partisipating at PP). I found them resourceful, charming and harmless.
ninth,
While Sedna's energy may be harmless enough, it's her actions that have caused (willful) harm. Do you really want someone who intends harm here in our midst? Would that be beneficial?
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Enchantra wrote:
ninth octave wrote:
I can only listen to my own heart on this one. I personally like the energy that Sedna brings to the forum,( reminds me much like the energy that Dreamways, and Per Syd give when partisipating at PP). I found them resourceful, charming and harmless.
ninth,
While Sedna's energy may be harmless enough, it's her actions that have caused (willful) harm. Do you really want someone who intends harm here in our midst? Would that be beneficial?
Enchantra,
I don't know what harm Sedna's actions caused. I am not here to condemn or condon her past background either. But I do believe a person needs to verbally express where they went wrong so they can rectify their actions( for whomsoever it may have concerned) and make a come back feeling like they have a clear post and reply key to press without having to think they need to defend a prior offense? I don't know what needs to be cleared up here to see where the intention of Sedna is going. How can you know for certain when someone has really stalked themselves clean?
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It has been mentioned that I have a ban on the discussion of forestworf/river and the past, and if it can be lifted. I am giving all a flat out "No." No it cannot. Sedna's egomania to talk about her old self is showing, I will not entertain that. Forestwolf is dead and so is the past. You think someone who claims to be an expert on stalking would do fine erasing their personal history. *scoff* Apparently this cannot be done by them. Anyway, it is a flat-out, super duper No, to the discussion of forestwolf. I will not allow these threads to turn into the toxic sludge that is her.
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ninth octave wrote:
Enchantra,
I don't know what harm Sedna's actions caused. I am not here to condemn or condon her past background either. But I do believe a person needs to verbally express where they went wrong so they can rectify their actions( for whomsoever it may have concerned) and make a come back feeling like they have a clear post and reply key to press without having to think they need to defend a prior offense? I don't know what needs to be cleared up here to see where the intention of Sedna is going. How can you know for certain when someone has really stalked themselves clean?If this person (who shall remain nameless but who has been accurately identified) had really stalked herself clean, she would COME clean and say... "Hi, I'm S****A from the past and I'd like to start fresh." That has not happened. Instead, "Sedna" came onto the forum under false pretenses, claiming not to understand stalking, pretending to be an innocent newbie. This is how it ALWAYS starts. I would not be surprised if she has also written to NLW telling him there are "vile stalkers" on his forum. That's how she started on my forum years ago, and nothing ever changes.
The fact is that if she wanted to come clean, she's had every opportunity. I think most here would even agree to let the past remain in the past. The problem is... that's not what's happening. A seer sees, and one thing a seer sees is that it's foolish to stalk a stalker... which is what Sedna is doing here with her pretenses.
What harm has she done? Maybe none. Yet. But those of us who lived the past are sufficiently experienced not to allow it to repeat itself. Regardless of what Nu Lang said about the energies being different, I will vehemently disagree. Nothing is different except the alternym and the avatar. Otherwise, she would not have been so very easy to identify. See?
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alien wrote:
ninth octave wrote:
Enchantra,
I don't know what harm Sedna's actions caused. I am not here to condemn or condon her past background either. But I do believe a person needs to verbally express where they went wrong so they can rectify their actions( for whomsoever it may have concerned) and make a come back feeling like they have a clear post and reply key to press without having to think they need to defend a prior offense? I don't know what needs to be cleared up here to see where the intention of Sedna is going. How can you know for certain when someone has really stalked themselves clean?If this person (who shall remain nameless but who has been accurately identified) had really stalked herself clean, she would COME clean and say... "Hi, I'm S****A from the past and I'd like to start fresh." That has not happened. Instead, "Sedna" came onto the forum under false pretenses, claiming not to understand stalking, pretending to be an innocent newbie. This is how it ALWAYS starts. I would not be surprised if she has also written to NLW telling him there are "vile stalkers" on his forum. That's how she started on my forum years ago, and nothing ever changes.
The fact is that if she wanted to come clean, she's had every opportunity. I think most here would even agree to let the past remain in the past. The problem is... that's not what's happening. A seer sees, and one thing a seer sees is that it's foolish to stalk a stalker... which is what Sedna is doing here with her pretenses.
What harm has she done? Maybe none. Yet. But those of us who lived the past are sufficiently experienced not to allow it to repeat itself. Regardless of what Nu Lang said about the energies being different, I will vehemently disagree. Nothing is different except the alternym and the avatar. Otherwise, she would not have been so very easy to identify. See?
Well I see what you mean.
In this forum a person's syntax is their signature identity.
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I don't believe there is any need to feel responsible for others here who have not had the experience of dealing with this person, whoever she is. Everyone pays their money and takes their chances. Both Lex and Nu Lang have stated they prefer to engage. They have been warned, and they choose still to engage. I fail to see any reasonable reason in discouraging further discourse.
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Also, as stated, what harm has she done?
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Gonzo wrote:
Also, as stated, what harm has she done?
No harm done because she hasn't destroyed this forum like she has done others. So in the meantime it's all good. She has mainly just been a pest about the stalking examples, no harm there. So for her recent trolling she has just been mainly annoying this time. We shall see what erupts later on.
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I'm of the opinion, if a forum can be "destroyed", it wasn't worth much to begin with.
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