Recapitulation

[Poutnik]

Can I use another smaller mirror to sink under water?

[Zitter]

i think so...

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Zitter is right but the larger the better and...mirrors have individual properties you know...

[Poutnik]

Well lol I cant just take big mirror fromt he wwall and put it under the water ) So for water I have to take small chiped one

[Guest]

It's funny you had this discussion about eyes, few eeks ago i was with someone and as we talked i decided to stop looking into his right eye but start looking into his left, no particular intent or change of behaviour from my part just changed the eye i was looking at consciousely. After a while he stopped and said "why are you looking at me this way?" i said "what way?? why? what do you feel?" and he told me that he feels just uncomfortable. I explained then to him that i just looked into his left eye instead of his right and he said that he felt that i was looking into his "inside side, his safe side". I didn't see anything looking back to me other than himself, i rather saw ..another part of himself watching me back.
It was interesting because i look into the left eye of people very often, sometimes unconsciousely, sometimes on purpose. But it was the first time i actually got a feedback on that)) a feed back which once again made me remember the following:
I want to point it out once again, both for me and for all to remember: people are sensitive beings, with feelings and fears and everything. It doesn't matter if we want to look into their darkness or their light, we have to remember that entering a mind(either in the wake or sleeping reality) can be an act of violation done either with intent or out of clumsiness. I am sure each one of us has been clumsy during discovering the worlds inside us and inside the others. Lets not forget respect, tenderness and discretion when looking:-) lets be inviting and not intruding.
And something more... seeing something that scares us in someones eyes is not nessecerily a parasite.
Infinity looking back can be equally scary))
...
What i have found very interesting about certain people's eyes is that sometimes i get lost in them. I mean... i have had people talking and talking to me and i realise after a point that i haven't heard a word just because i have been lost in their eyes. It's like i wake up suddently and i have to make a very conscious and impeccable effort to stay concetrated at their words.
Such people always put me in a state of alertness because i realise there is something about them that totally absorbs my attention beyond control and i feel totally...bound!) once i had followed like a jombie a man out of the metro and kept walking behind him until i woke up (after a few minutes) to realise that i am on the wrong station! and i hadn't even looked in his eyes, i just kept feeling his presence for some unexplained reason and just followed him when he got up. That really shocked me. This has definetely something to do with their energy independently to their conscious intent. It's very interesting to observe and a good reminder of the need for a warrior to always be in calm alertness (i forget how's this called in castaneda terminology??) You never know what's going to appear infront of you :-)

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Seeing with the eyes and can be practiced in this way..
relaw, let your mind become silent, let your eyes go sort of out of focus, for some they will cross, wait and see if your perception changes...try making that intent..practice this before a setting sun.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Interesting in that I, too have had recurring dreams my whole life concerning such a house.

[Castor]

Hello,
I'm going these few days on advanced yoga and meditation course out of town... I'll be in silence there again
I'm back in few days and then I'll share how it was.
Matea
''It is a dangerous business, going out of your door. You step into the Road, and if you dont keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.'' J.R.R. Tolkien

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Ok..ok Castor..We'll be waiting..

[Castor]

I'm back
It was amazing. I have learned more about my self, about what stops me from advancing in certain levels. I have literally seen the hidden ego tricks, and emotional barriers that are stopping me from going deeper into my self.
Being in silence was not a problem at all, uncontrary, I could stay like that forever ...
Meditations were long and deep and almost whole program was based on them, so we meditated and meditated ...
It really was a great expirience!
Best wishes to you,
Matea
''It is a dangerous business, going out of your door. You step into the Road, and if you dont keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.'' J.R.R. Tolkien

[dreamster]

Welcome back. I also find that meditation is the easy part.
It's keeping my peaceful center when I'm in the world with people that is the challenge.
I suppose we could just meditate all the time, but in a way that seems kind of selfish. I think we're needed to interact with others from that centered place, from that place that recognizes the other as us.
dreamster

[Castor]

I agree.
This world needs spiritual people, so that they can spread that peace and balance to other people...and as you say, the true challenge and achievement is to stay in the balance inside this chaotic surrounding.
Castor
''It is a dangerous business, going out of your door. You step into the Road, and if you dont keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.'' J.R.R. Tolkien

[Castor]

Good , well done and well said!''It is a dangerous business, going out of your door. You step into the Road, and if you dont keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.'' J.R.R. Tolkien

[docta lee]

Well I started doing it yesterday and it took me 45 min just sitting on pic-nic table staring and my blank notebook in a park close to a lake.




Then I started-It is really true that there is something in us that wants to stop us from the recapitulation.




I started with the 2 most recent people I have met. What is cool about it is that my linear mind did not remember details about these people but when I started
writing, details came back to me which I had supposedly forgotten.






Is it advised to write about how you feel about the people? Or do you just make detailed points about who they are? Or do you do both?




Thanks

[dreamgirl]

You know Dr. Lee, I'd just start breathing in those memories as you have them, don't let that infernal list get in the way. Who's to say that you
will retrieve that memory again? Also, it is my opinion that as you release those memories it clears your energy in such a way as to lead you to more
memories. I broke all the rules when I started the recapitulation process, not at first, I tried to start a list, and I did the recommended way, making a list
of sexual relationships, and I cleared a few of those out of the way, just easy, moseying along, then one day I decided that I would just jump on in, right to
my source of pain, what held me back, my mental battlefield, which for me was my relationship with my Mother, Father and brothers and sisters(I am the youngest
of five). This really got things moving for me, and I only got to my oldest sister in the recap., but my dreaming changed completely. Sadly, I stopped, but
now your post has reminded me that I do need to recapitulate again. Good luck with your recap.




Dreamgirl

[bluedreamer]

Hi doctalee and dreamgirl,




I've been mulling over recap a lot since I started comming here regularly and even even before I read much Casteneda I read other writings that advise it
and realized that it would help but all the times I sat down with a pen writing I wasn't able to reach the emotional content and I think that is most
important. The most effective way for me has been tracing the issues that come up in my current life back to earlier issues in my life, then the emotions were
available to me and I was able to grieve and see how my faulty actions were related to events of earlier times, and free up energy, however I don't want
wait for more stumbling to occur, I wish to proceed again with the pen and find a method that works for me. Doctor Green recommended one for me to try and I as
of yet haven't, makes my resistance clear to me. I wish to proceed with my recapitulation.




May we all make effective recapitulations!

[ARNWAY]

Dreamgirl and Bluedreamer you two are correct in my opinion on how to approach recapitulation, I was the youngest of seven in my family and was traumatized by
being tortured by my five older brothers and my sister with normal things being the youngest and to this day they still treat me like there younger brother
even though they are weaker than me when I am in my mid forty's and I will put them in there place when they treat me like I'm not worthy of an opinion
when it comes to family matters because they are older as if I'm 10 years old and the belittlement that comes with it when we get together because they
feel that they can keep me under there thumb as they did in the past and this was there biggest mistake for assuming that they still had this influence over
me.




The point that I wanted to make about this aspect is that though recapitulation is that I undid there manipulation that they created when I was young as this
post that I will cut and paste clearly illustrates this aspect.


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I found that through dreaming and can attest to the effectiveness into everyday life that I can change my behavioral patterns and cleans my personality to the
point to where I get people rolling with laughter because my personality and humor is fluid and not constrained by self importance.




I found that without the element of self importance when dealing with people that they can not engage your normal knee jerk reaction like with typical people
that one would normally encounter and I found that allot of self importance that is with us began and forced on us when we were young.


Someone can try and fight all they want with a knee jerk reaction all they want but feel deep down that it is a permanent feature of there personality and even
when they anticipated it still overwhelms them with unexplained responses and this just pissed me off to no-end.




When I got to a certain level of being a warrior I noticed allot of unexplained behavior (inhibitions, phobias or weird unexplained behavior) that didn't
make sense to me as to why I was acting in such a way.


I used some stalking techniques to isolate the origin of behavioral patterns and would counter those instances and find the time and place that such permanent
character fixtures that affected me took place and replaced the elements that affected me with something else and that is the new understanding or undoing of
unexplained behavioral patterns.




These are a few that I mentioned before but I think or hope you will understand what someone can do to undo unwanted behavior.




Recapitulation in dreaming specifically is not something that I read about but something that just come out of me instinctively and became my most useful tool
in my pursuit on my path as a warrior.


For example and I will give you many this one happened just recently and that was a 35 year old recurring dream that I have had since I was a little kid that a
I forgot about until I remembered as a kid of having a dream that I was around 6 years old at being at a summer vacation cottage that actually happened on a
lake in real life but had nightmeres of this little girl about he same age as me and in my dreams would come riding up to me on her tricycle and I would talk
to her but when I did her mother which was mean and cruel would punish me and hit me like a mad women would and scared me and traumatize me and had a lasting
effect of my behavior at such a tender age.


When I recognized this recurring dream while I was in my dreaming attention I felt I had to hid the fact that I was aware and stalk by acting out the dream and
to lure the women and kid out and let the dream play out to the point not letting the offensive energy(nightmares element) know that this was a set up.


Everything turned out as planed and when I encountered the women that I was afraid of I slapped the the living **** out of that **** and told her that she had
no right to treat me and scare me that way and when I woke up I know that I will never have that childhood nightmares again and that was just a couple of
months ago but it shows how far back ago you can go and to this day I have not had that nightmare like I had about 25 times.




I have taken care of allot of things in the meantime for example things that affect your self esteem and this had nothing to do with nightmares or past dreams
this was a shyness that I could not explain it got in the way of me socializing an element that limited me from interacting with people something that was
always there and I fought it to untold endless turmoil when I was around people and always felt limited with my dealings with people because I felt that
something was preventing me from acting from my full potential because of some strange behavioral limitations.




When I reached to a certain level with dreaming and through my dreaming I focused on that matter and was able to trace it when I was little kid, one of my
sisters friends used to play with my shyness when I was vulnerable and would pin me down with it and laugh at me and would intensify it totally at my expense
and when I would see them years later they would do the same thing again and get the same effect and I'm wondering what the *** is going on because they
just triggered that response from that point of being young, it had a lasting effect on me at least for 30 years of unexplained inhibition and what really made
me get to the root of the problem is that made me mad because it got in the way of me getting **** when I was single because I would just not be myself for
some odd reason.






I eventually traced the problem through dreaming and navigated my phobia I corrected the problem through my dreaming I replaced that shyness with something
else and when I woke up my shyness and inhibitions were gone instantly and when you recognize what your doing you can pick off and recap things that effect you
on a energy level as far as someone that is effecting your energy or personality with you to a certain extent and I'm sure each person is different.


I'm good stalking bad energy that's after me and confront it and beat the **** out of it but I find that I have to disguise myself in order to have it
happen as far as something that they initiated while dreaming because you can anticipate a dream as it unfolds and when you recognize this you can control the
energy interplay instead of being a player- hook, line and sinker- of negative energy that drains you and you know it when you wake up that you feel you just
have been fucked by something in your dreams.




When in a lucid state of dreaming you can navigate to your problems and turmoil that happened in the past and undo the permanent infliction that was imposed on
you by F.E. that main objective is to feed off your energy.




Dreamers get your energy back.




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My suggestion would be to navigate to items that had a deep effect on you and take care of them first by going into deep meditation and muster up the bad
energy that transpired at that moment and with the recap technique replace the bad energy with your own good energy and intent and by doing this you should
feel immediate results and then go after the less important ones on your list.

[dreamgirl]

Thanks Arnway, and great post...I agree totally.




Dreamgirl

[Mornings Son]

Hey dr. Lee




There are different ways to approache the recap.


A structured one I mix together.


1. What happened (factual)


2. How did I feel? (also bodysensations - like: a dark red and blue tension in the neck)


3. Thoughts


4. Actions I did or wanted to do


5. Designing a new strategy.




Most of the time it is enough for me to get clear about it, to let it go. Other times I need to breath it out and let go, let go let go... until im FREE




This metode I use on the daily recap on where I failed to be self-UNimportant and othervice failed in being a warrior

[bluedreamer]

Yeah, thanks for sharing Arnway, sounds like a good method for recapping but I'll have to get better at dreaming before I try it.

[ARNWAY]

What actually happens when recapping and this is apparent when you are in the second attention is that you undo the energetic involvement of "Foreign
Energy" that took place without your permission when they configure your energy body to a certain way and is experienced as a memory or trauma after it is
done while having a lasting effect on ones character.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

As Mornings Son writes, breathing is a good way to recap events, for it is the eternal clock.

[Captain Know]

Just an observation. There is a type of psychotherapy called, "Bioenergetic Analysis" which is based on the observations of Dr. Whilhem Reich wherein
it is thru the breath and breathing that stored emotions can be released from the muscular armoring of the body. They put clients in various postures to
facilitate a deepening of the breath, and what can come up are lost memories and feelings. Of course, as therapists they work thru the **** with the client.




Recapitulation is different I realize and for a far worthier reason as warriors, it is just I see how the breathing is very essential. In Bioenergetics they
make you breath with a wide open mouth and to have nothing inhibiting the expansion of the diaphram -- so belts are taken off, etc.

[bluedreamer]

I recall holding my breath when i was a child if i was extremely angry or upset and didn't want to give in to the feeling, it seemed to be automatic. As an
adult I've seen children do that. When I feel a strong surge of emotion these days, I may resist it for awhile but the time comes when I accept it and am
ready to release it. I usually lay on my side with my knees slightly bent and breath deeply while it comes, sometimes I lie very still and others I might move
around to facillitate breath and the process, sometimes I do both. It reminds me of labor and delivery.




I agree Mornings Son, Wolf and Captain, breath is essential. The method that Dr Green linked me to uses the breath as well. Ruh

[bluedreamer]

ARNWAY wrote:

What actually happens when recapping and this is apparent when you are in the second attention is that you undo the energetic involvement of "Foreign
Energy" that took place without your permission when they configure your energy body to a certain way and is experienced as a memory or trauma after it
is done while having a lasting effect on ones character.




It is apparent in the tonal too, even if one hasn't yet seen it in the second attention. It's one of the ways I confirm that I'm keeping at the
path. I am a lot more willing to detach from my preferences and worry about outcomes etc than I used to be. I am aware that I have a ways to go yet,
however...




Thanks again to all who are posting on this.