02-15-2010, 12:00 AM
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Beating the flyer for good
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02-16-2010, 12:00 AM
PerSyd wrote:
To be honest it is human origin DD, but like made from all humans inhabiting or living near a specific area and eventually from all of the species, it is not parasitic what it sucks out actually goes to another human or humans. You are describing something else.
02-16-2010, 12:00 AM
PerSyd wrote:
No i am not it is not personal it's a cumulus from all life in body, but still has a bit of personal imprint. It is made by humans as mass not by inorganic energy. You can't argue perceptions, but the interpretations... Personally I only care about practical knowledge. What I suggested here effectively ends the interference of the flyer. The rest I left seers to ponder.
03-13-2010, 12:00 AM
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May I interject a comment here? What if you were to find out that all this flyer talk was all a waste? What if you found out that in order to achieve the 'whatever' you speak of, you had to reject all the teachings you've ever received. Could you abandon all this knowledge you've acquired? What would happen to 'you?' If you 'believe' the flyers are real and found out they were, yet quit believing in them, what would happen? Thanks! kris
03-13-2010, 12:00 AM
SelfHealedMadman wrote:~
May I interject a comment here? What if you were to find out that all this flyer talk was all a waste? What if you found out that in order to achieve the 'whatever' you speak of, you had to reject all the teachings you've ever received. Could you abandon all this knowledge you've acquired? What would happen to 'you?' If you 'believe' the flyers are real and found out they were, yet quit believing in them, what would happen? Thanks! kris 1. You may. 2. IF... Belief and disbelief are both not knowing. If anybody was able to get rid of all their beliefs... a real total clean slate... the flyer wouldn't be an issue and they would be at least in the third attention. But beliefs are most of the times related to emotions, making it very hard to just "forget". Most people would gladly live and die for their beliefs... I certainly won't do it. If the shoe fits, walk it. If not, there is a whole shoestore available. I for one can't spit on Don Juan nor Castaneda's knowledge yet. At this time, that would be spitting up.
03-13-2010, 12:00 AM
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Hey DD! Your comments will be prefaced with >> >>Belief and disbelief are both not knowing. Do you mean 'not the truth'? >>If anybody was able to get rid of all their beliefs... a real total clean slate... the flyer wouldn't be an issue and they would be at least in the third attention. But beliefs are most of the times related to emotions, making it very hard to just "forget". "Getting rid of anything" really wasn't what I was pointing at. Can we ever get rid of anything when organizing the Tonal? Beliefs are just fine, just realize that no belief is true. Again though, not really the issue. If you think the flyers are real, then of course they are real, to you. So what then? Is discussing them going to get one out of their reach?? But, discusssion is what we want, so let's go! >>Most people would gladly live and die for their beliefs... I certainly won't do it. We'll see about that! As to 'most people', eh.... >>If the shoe fits, walk it. If not, there is a whole shoestore available. Ah yes! ...as in beliefs! >>I for one can't spit on Don Juan nor Castaneda's knowledge yet. At this time, that would be spitting up. Hey now! You just said above that you wouldn't die for your beliefs! Now, now...who's spitting on knowledge? Is spitting-up an un-impeccable manner of dying for ones beliefs? Perhaps we all need a good spitting-up? ...or, is spitting-up 'bad'?
03-13-2010, 12:00 AM
SelfHealedMadman wrote:~
Hey DD! Your comments will be prefaced with >> >>Belief and disbelief are both not knowing. Do you mean 'not the truth'? >>If anybody was able to get rid of all their beliefs... a real total clean slate... the flyer wouldn't be an issue and they would be at least in the third attention. But beliefs are most of the times related to emotions, making it very hard to just "forget". "Getting rid of anything" really wasn't what I was pointing at. Can we ever get rid of anything when organizing the Tonal? Beliefs are just fine, just realize that no belief is true. Again though, not really the issue. If you think the flyers are real, then of course they are real, to you. So what then? Is discussing them going to get one out of their reach?? But, discusssion is what we want, so let's go! >>Most people would gladly live and die for their beliefs... I certainly won't do it. We'll see about that! As to 'most people', eh.... >>If the shoe fits, walk it. If not, there is a whole shoestore available. Ah yes! ...as in beliefs! >>I for one can't spit on Don Juan nor Castaneda's knowledge yet. At this time, that would be spitting up. Hey now! You just said above that you wouldn't die for your beliefs! Now, now...who's spitting on knowledge? Is spitting-up an un-impeccable manner of dying for ones beliefs? Perhaps we all need a good spitting-up? ...or, is spitting-up 'bad'?LOL! I have emotional history, sadly. That makes me reactive, but it's not very related to the ideas I have. If you like spitting up, do then. I can't afford it. Even the lazy, indulgent and death Castaneda is in better shape than I, so spitting up won't help me. For my life's sake... I'll end it here. Regards Madman.
03-13-2010, 12:00 AM
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