What the Foreign Installation Is.

[dreamways]

Bob May wrote:

Where they err in their reasoning is that they fail to see that Abraham was originally named Abram and it meant "belief in the unseen."


The "spiritual children" of Abraham are those who Believe in the invisible and follow it to it's end. Those are the heirs to the promises and
the "chosen people". Not his physical offspring.
And just to mix it up, you've even got the "un-chosen people" like me.


But, seriously, anytime you get a religious or political mindset that is based on race or culture, there is gonna be bloodshed. Ah, who am I kidding, we will
always be able to find a reason to have wars, human resourcefulness will always prevail.

[Guest]

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[dreamways]

PerSyd wrote:

Thank you, Dreamways...I totaly agree with you. Thanks for correcting me.Sometimes I am just so clumsy...

no prob

[ARNWAY]

I want to clarify something that I'm not guilty of racism but I'm prejudice of "agenda-ism" and I don't care what color, race, or what
ever if you step in my house with a bad "agenda" then you are dead.




Am I a racicist if I don't like communism or political agendas?




What's the difference Dreamways since you accused me of being "racist" because you seem to catagorize me in a jiffy of that because I may not
agree with something.




I'm guilty of being against "Agenda-ism" that does not fit my agenda and everyone is guilty of this so you can take your assumptions and look in
the mirror and tell me that you are not the same way as far as having the freedom to pick and choose if you like something or not like when you banned me from
your forum.




I don't like Sustained Reactions Agenda does that make me a racist?




If I don't like the agenda of the Taliban does that make me a racist.




If I don't like the agenda of flaming Liberals does that make me a racist because they are communist like Borack Obama your Mama because he reflects
communism-ism-ism.

[Bob May]

"I stopped hanging out with him because he was constantly preaching his theory that the foreign installations were jews and that only white people could
be naguals. Coincidentally, I was dating a jewish girl at the time, and she thought that all naguals were jews, that the eagle's gift was the same as being
the chosen people. Taking a step back, I figured that I was witnessing the spirit teaching me about egomania."




There was nothing racist about this. He merely stated that he knew a racist man and decided to quit hanging around with him. And that his girlfriend had a
perspective that all "Holy Men, Teachers etc., and therefore Naguals" were Jewish. If she was raised Catholic she would have thought the same about
the "saints". It is just human nature to believe what we are told when we are young and only later to expand beyond our parental and cultural
boundaries. And only then if we use our brains and courage to step outside of these boundaries.




"Dreamways when we are talking about nagualism why do you bring up the topic of jews when we were talking about the foreign installation ..."




Because the idea of the "chosen people" is a Biblical concept from the Old Testament and therefore a Jewish or Hebrew concept.




"..and please don't muddle your words of antisemitism on this site when we are talking about something different , maybe you have issues, who knows?
"




You two might have some sort of "history", you obviously do, but you, Arnway, were first in this discussion to imply that anyone was anti-semite.




Agenda-ism is not Racism if you don't blame the agenda on a particular race.


Many Jews are involved in High Finance and control of the Monetary system of the world. World domination by use of money and politics.


Many non-Jewish people are also.


Many other Jews are small businessmen. Some own junk-yards and one I knew personally was a plumber.


The first Christians were Jews and so was Jesus.


I attended a Jewish church that was Christian. Very nice people with a knowledge of the Old Testament that was very helpful.


Agenda-ism is not racism.




The people with the big world-wide agendas are victims of the fliers or demons same as us.


Politicians suck and so do billionaires who will never have enough.




I don't care. It will never change and I wouldn't trade my life with any one of them for all of their money, power, prestige or any of it.


Power whether political or based upon money or celebrity are traps to our attention.


They can have it if they want it. I'm not interested.


Hate, predjudice, or even mild dislike for no reason whatsoever are even more of a trap. Same goes for that mind trap.




World domination is here until it isn't anymore. Use it as an example of how not to live. You will not change it.




That's my two cents for what it is worth.

[dreamways]

ARNWAY wrote:

I want to clarify something...


If I don't like the agenda of flaming Liberals does that make me a racist because they are communist like Borack Obama your Mama because he reflects
communism-ism-ism.




Wow, you really are a moron. Thanks for clarifying that.

[Guest]

"Wow, you really are a moron. Thanks for clarifying that."-Dreamways






Reminds me of SR,...where as a reasoned response might be appropriate, an insult or an ad hominem appears.






"You don't seem to comprehend anything that anyone posts here.


What is muddled is you.


Did my post strike to close to home?




The only people who don't want to talk about racism are the racists."-Dreamways




This statement followed Dreamway's personal history of "Jew" related stories added to the thread and was a response to Arnway's query to
him re: topic deviation.




Seems like a little tit for tat goin' on. One thing is certain though and that is the term Racism cannot be applied towards one's prejudice against
political beliefs or religious dogma unless, of course, this prejudice includes the race or ethnicity of the adherents. And, if one wishes to get particularly
technical, it can be stated that the term Race implies Species. As we all know the human species is one race or specie; not many. If this were not true then
it would be impossible to have fertile offspring between the so-called races; such as the breeding of a horse and donkey creating a sterile mule.




We may be a breed apart but we are all of the Human Race.




The FI made me post this.

[dreamways]

wakulla wrote:

Reminds me of SR,...where as a reasoned response might be appropriate, an insult or an ad hominem appears.

Well, don't forget, "sorcerers" are the "bad guys." We are like the gangster rappers of the new age movement. Don't believe
it? Try going into any fundamentalist church of any kind on this planet and tell them you are there to teach them about sorcery. I'm sure you will be
greeted with many colorful expletives and more. Seems like most "nagualists" I run into are trying to "clean up" nagualism, make it
something fluffy and politicaly correct. They won't be happy until nagualism is toothless and about nothing, because they are cowards. Don't get me
wrong, I don't have anything against people who are not nagualists and don't agree with nagualism, because they are being straight up about it.




So, Arnway may be a dipshit, but he's not a coward, he is just like all the other "true believers", myself included. I don't see how any of
us will ever be able to form a unified approach to nagualism as it is inherently feudal. I think we just have to accept that and do our own things
individually. The only thing that could temporarily unite nagualists is a very powerful nagual leader, but we just don't have one of those at the moment.
I'm not saying that we don't have naguals available, just not so powerful as to be a global force yet. Who knows, maybe one of them will get to that
level in our life time, which would be great.




Another point I'd like to make is that a nagual leader is not a nagual because of his or her personality or because alot of people like them. This really
has nothing to do with it. Take Arnway for example, he could be a nagual and the fact that he's an **** would have no bearing on his value as a leader.
The nagual leader is able to channel the nagual into this world, past themselves to others. You always know when the nagual touches you because you end up
being taught a lesson about your own egomania by your own hand. That is what makes it seem like magic to me. Delicate individuals, such as the guy who
created Sustained Reaction, just can't take a joke, they can't take being made a fool of by their own doing. People like that blame the nagual leader
because they are ignorant. It was the nagual that reached out from infinity and kicked their ass, using their foot. It doesn't get any better than that.
To me, the ideal nagual leader would channel a bunch of energy, and just spend their time sending out apology letters to everyone, saying sorry that your ego
was crushed so ruthlessly, I swear I had nothing to do with it.

[ARNWAY]

So, Arnway may be a dipshit, but he's not a coward, he is just like all the other "true believers", myself included. I don't see how any of
us will ever be able to form a unified approach to nagualism as it is inherently feudal. I think we just have to accept that and do our own things
individually. The only thing that could temporarily unite nagualists is a very powerful nagual leader, but we just don't have one of those at the moment.
I'm not saying that we don't have naguals available, just not so powerful as to be a global force yet. Who knows, maybe one of them will get to that
level in our life time, which would be great.




Another point I'd like to make is that a nagual leader is not a nagual because of his or her personality or because alot of people like them. This really
has nothing to do with it. Take Arnway for example, he could be a nagual and the fact that he's an **** would have no bearing on his value as a leader.
The nagual leader is able to channel the nagual into this world, past themselves to others----------Dreamways wrote.




So why am I a dipshit and ****, is it because you like Borack Obama and I don't?




Look in the mirrior if this is the case, looking at your profile you seem to be campaining for Borack your mama and I never claimed to like any politician
because they all are puppet strings of the money that control the world and not the will of the people.




I never tried to mix nagualism with agenda-ism and you Dreamways is fucking **** up. Thank you.




I always did just fine until you had to accuse me of racism which is not the case.

[dreamways]

ARNWAY wrote:

I always did just fine until you had to accuse me of racism


Seems like you and Bill Clinton have the same problem.

[Hawkeye Crow]

Not to claim for myself , nor do I think many of us here are so 'Complete ' or have lost their human form , but , an interesting point about Sorcerers
is that they are no longer subject to the 'ups and downs' of the human condition. All discernments should be made from this landmark , as far as I
see it. I just finished with "the Second Ring of Power." Sometimes the hostilities on this forum remind me of that story. Carlos , the little
sisters , the Generos , all at odds due to their incompleteness and indulging. We must support the impeccability of the warrior regardless of personal power
or lack of power. One of the really good things I am experiencing about this is that I think that I don't hate anybody. The idea that we are predators
just tells me to take precautions; in 'Tales of Power" don Juan teaches Carlos that lions are predators, but why hate them? They just do what they
were made to do , and that it was up to his personal power to survive. The Idea is the thing. That was one lonely sentence in ten books . But , to accept an
idea brings it to life , and that is how dreaming begins.




What's new? Be fluid and flexible to change.

[dreamways]

Hawkeye Crow wrote:

Sometimes the hostilities on this forum remind me of that story. Carlos , the little sisters , the Generos , all at odds due to their incompleteness and
indulging.


But without those hostilities, there wouldn't have been a book to tell the story, just like here.

[Captain Know]

....and everyone of us still has too much personal history and self importance. (Hey just a reminder guys. We're all "assholes', con-artists, deceivers, liars, whiners, complainers...and so on, until we take
off the "mask" or FI.)

[Hawkeye Crow]

I am glad to see a discussion on racism. It sure is FI if anything is. Remember that the Nagual taught Carlos to SEE Tonals , not bodies and skin or even
culture. I was just thinking today how Tonals are just like resting places: they either make you feel good or uncomfortable , giving or taking energy. Hating
uncomfortable Tonals is as much a waste of energy as racism. The Warrior discerns dispassionatly and acts appropriately!




And , 'Holy Rattlesnakes Batman!' ARNWAY has a really outdated concern about Communism , based on propaganda, fearmongering. A real FI placement to
be sure. If anything was near communist, it was the living arrangements of dou Juan's line of sorcerers. Nagual Julian's house? (I guess he was the
commisar). Was it don Juan's house or Silvio Manuel's house? Then there were the original Indian tribes who lived an organic 'socialism'.




The older I get, I feel that I would rather not own anything, if there were worthies to share with. If I was worthy my own self to learn to give tokens.

[Hawkeye Crow]

At least as I see it. I can't be responsible for the foolishness of others or the FI that rules their lives. But , I can come back at ya when that FI
trys to tell me what's what. Take it or leave it.




The Foreign Installation: at first I knew it as the False Mind , which is a convienient catch-all. Now, from clues given by various sources , a block of
Seeing has come to me. Put simply , the FI is like an Agent which mediates between myself and Spirit. This is similar to the parish priest, who tells the
people what God is and what God says.




I see a racehorse with blinders. The horse sees only what the rider/master allows , and what is seen may or may not be real, as to how the master manipulates
that NARROW view that the horse is allowed. A Sorcerer can manipulte perception based on the knowledge of one's narrow focus, or by simply introducing
things from outside the view of the blinders.




So , what are these agents? I think I have always known them but was afraid to admit it. In the end , FI agents are about 99% of all the things that human
beings cling to as a necessary part of their world.




Examples: ideologies, theories, theologies, justifications , judgements, races and nations, self-held images of things, activities , distractions , beliefs
and on and on and on. In short, anything that acts a a filter to my perception and stands between myself and direct contact with awareness. Often is the
time that I have voluntarily subjected myself to these FI, these inorganic beings, Taken as a SLAVE!




And books. There is no wisdom in books , or anything for that matter. Wisdom comes only from the Spirit and my personal power to grab onto it. Some things
may be a vehicle , but have no value in themselves.




Again , I have often cited Indians as being more in touch with Spirit and I see this as true. They likely had their own FI , but not like the gluttony Western
Man. As for the Old Seers, well who knows. I can only take don Juan's stories about it.




My only advice: don't read PEOPLE magazine , and be real choosy about the media (TV and such) in general. Belief is not Fact. Just say no to Masters and
'Leaders'.

[Hawkeye Crow]

...to actually learn , requires a great deal of humility. Most of us, unfortunately, have conclusions, opinions, judgements, beliefs , dogmas, from which we
evaluate, from which we start, that is to say, a platform from which we live. If one has opinions , conclusions, definite dogmas, one is merely accumulating
, therefore resisting, and hence creating conflict in oneself and with another, which is society.




So , is learning a matter of time? Is humility to be cultivated? Humility is FREEDOM and it is only in FREEDOM you can learn, not with accumulation of
memories.




Obviously, a man who says, "I am humble" , is a most vain man......it is a matter of INSTANT PERCEPTION and that immediate perception is denied when
you make humility an IDEA. ....between idea and action there is conflict.




All ideas are always in the past , therefore when I am functioning according to ideas,dogmas, beliefs, conclusions, I am living in the past, therefore I am
DEAD. It is as if a man lived on dead memories.....there is no sensitivity if there is an idea, which is of the past, DOMINATING the present.




We are sorrowful human beings who have not a moment of bliss uncontaminated by thought, not a moment of real deep enjoyment untouched by any thought or memory.
(purpose of recapitulation?-my note)




...the moment thought enters , love goes away. What we know of love, as desire, pleasure and passion , which is lust , has nothing whatsoever to do with the
passion we are talking about , which passion is not the product of thought. Passion implies that thought and idea have been totally abandoned.




J Krishnamurti , 1968

[Hawkeye Crow]

Spiritual bankruptcy , that is . I refer to the turmoil in the Anglican/ Episcopal christian church over the ordination of women and gays. Here is Legalism
at its height , and the failure of human description of divinity. Another example of uncontrolled folly and lack of the light touch with a sense of humor. The
self-important take themselves and their beliefs much too seriously. UGH! Lighten Up!




If homosexuality was ignored , as an act of not-doing, it would likely become non-existent. Ah, the FI indulgers won't allow that , will they?






Not-doing is the solution to most human problems.

[Hawkeye Crow]

Within my exploration of FI , I found that applying labels is the simplest and well-known forms of it. You know , like when parents tell their children ,
'You're stupid' . or 'You're no good!' , and so on over many years. And positive labels are just as bad , as unreasonable expectations
are set up. Obviously , people seek many different methods , such as The Secret to correct these things.




There is a n NPR radio program , "This American Life with Ira Glass". They do stories on different topics every week. Today , there was a story
about a child who had some kind of Downs Syndrome. When he was enrolled in school , his mother told the school about the boy's genetic problem. BUT , when
watching the class , she saw that her son had been set apart from the other children AND their instruction. So , the following year , she vowed to never
mention the disability again , even to the boy. The label was removed and the boy grew up more or less normally , was rated with a decent IQ of about 110 ,
did well in his studies. There were cultural problems of course. Keeping such a secret was difficult for the family , and the boy did exhibit some annoying
behaviors. When teasing , in his teenage years, became a problem , he was finally told the truth. As he was now fairly mature , the parents fears were not
realized , and things only got better for him , as he could now tell his classmates what was happening. He made friends.




So , I see that , as I suspected , to treat individuals as just plain human overcomes many ills. And that so-called civilization creates the very problems it
claims , in self-importance , only it can solve. I think of Carlos Castaneda and his ridiculous task of trying to classify don Juan's knowledge according
to some pre-established form. Classification is best left to machine descriptions and clothing sizes.

[ARNWAY]

I am not racist really because I judge people as me being a warrior and judgeing anyone on the premises of there "intent" and if they have bad intent
or bad "AGENDA" I sniff it out -----and I feel it is a------ "GOD" giving right to do so without being prosecuted for just observing this.




I found that just having the knowledge to recognize this puts me in a catagorie as a threat for me just observing this without any activity on my part except
just stating this

[Hawkeye Crow]

...as to, See through. Starting with seeing through myself. However , as I advance , I See through other people. It is disturbing , yet informs my
survival. And , it is likely the fault of my own past acts that I too often See only people who have hidden agendas. Maybe they don't know it . I did not
See my own for many lifetimes.




As to prejudices: I've tried to deal with mine. But I'm getting radical thanks to what Castaneda wrote. That is , all things are equal to me ;
animals , insects , plants , all life. Sooner or later we all die or disappear, back to primordial energy. I like the way this makes me feel , and I am sure
it aids my ability to See. It's tricky , too. That is , to accept those things that offend me , personally. I am considering Not-Doing in a more serious
way as a tool to confront these problems. That is , to flow with rather than confront. It is a tricky proposition.






I must admit , that I have some nostalgia for some of those Nations of the New World (Indians) , that did not have to deal with these problems , which I guess
is what Controlled Folly was created for

[Mornings Son]

The gold I got from reading this looong thread:




FI can be dealt with.


Be aware of it all the time and don't give in to it.


Keep the controlled folly rocking and rolling!




Arnway what is you experience of dealing with FI in dreaming?

[ARNWAY]

Mornings Son thanks for asking because the timing was right to talk about issues like this because I feel our time to freely talk about things like this are
limited as to the freedom to talk about this in the uncertain future.




Several times recently I will get a feeling or feel and percieve the shadows of F.I. before I go to bed in a fasion that is different than the normal daily
thing for me and know that I'm in for a treat of dreams. I will just close my eyes and instantly start to see my dreaming colors which are brilliant
fluorescent green, purple and white light( I see this every night) moving in waves hovering over me even when I open my eyes I will still see it in my bed room
and have had this happen most of all my life.




Back to the dreams of shadow--F.I. dreams---I found that they are the most vicious of dreams to entrap your attention and I mentioned them in my dreaming posts
on this site. http://sorcery.yuku.com/topic/1483




I get a buzzing or a vibration around me and see after I have been dreaming awhile see fleeting shadows around me when I wake up and then when I go back to
sleep I have nothing but a battle with forces trying to divert my intent from what I want to intend to dream and it becomes a battle of will as to dream
without there presence but after disipline and stalking avenues while dreaming I found on how to move faster than them and when I find that they are getting
the upper hand all I do is shut off my internal dialog and change dreaming scenes and enter another scene while still having my internal dialog shut off and
"Intentionally" turn it back on and bingo there they are and energenically give them a bad taste in there mouth and disappear and set them up again
as if they are playing my game.




The secret is to shut off your internal dialog and just this week I had to shut it off for a very long time while in my dreaming attention because I was under
assault.


I woke the next day and could not wait to dream again so I could do it all over again the next night because I felt I was gaining strength but they did not
want to play and why I mention this is because this could be a dreamers nightmere if you were afraid or fear of the onslough.




I don't look forward for it but to tell you the truth I enjoy the battle and feel that I did not get butt-fucked.






Dreamers just remember your best defence in any situation is always shut off your internal dialog.




internal dialog.




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internal dialog.




internal dialog.




By shutting it off it is your shield of defence.




Thats the best advise that I could give to any of my warrior brothers.

[Bob May]

It is very easy to wander away from the subject matter in these threads. The Principles of the workings of our Mind and Reality are so interwoven and
interconnected as to be almost one subject once we get a degree of understanding of these Principles. I first noticed this the first time I read
Casaneda's books, especially Journey to Ixtlan, which in my opinion, wove these separate Principles into a whole tapestry. The tapestry only becomes
apparent through action and thought together. Through getting some philosophy of how the mind works and then by observing the mind working we come face to
face with the Human Dilemma. This dilemma or predicament is part of being human. We, as human beings, can ignore it, as most do, or confront it.


To come face to face with the knowledge of the existence of the Foreign Installation is and always has been one step in the Mystery Schools throughout the
ages.




"Know Thyself" ,... Socrates is famous for arguing that we must Know Thyself to be wise, that the unexamined life is not worth
living.


He also said, "Wise men speak becase they have something to say. Fools speak because they have to say something." But that is another subject.




Just by being on this forum indicates a call to reach above and beyond what others settle for as being important in this life.




Below is an excerp from Paul's writings in his efforts to understand what "makes us tick." He recognises the Principles of Law - His Philosophy
- as being the "means to the end" of knowing himself. In other words, keeping the Law was never the Goal, as he first thought.


Coming to a Realization by trying to keep the Law, (and failing over and over again), is the goal that was Hidden Within the Law from the beginning.


He also by analogy comes to the realization that once this philosophy has brought him to a certain point, it has served the purpose it was created for.


He must then look at it as a hindrance to further progression. He is dead to it and divorced from it.


This does not mean he will go do anything he wants to. It means he has reached the end of himself.


He is no longer under the Law, but under Grace.


This realization IS the purpose of Scripture. To reach this Realization is to be free from the power that the Foreign Installation has over us. Because the
only power it has over us is to Continually point out that we are not living up to our own Principles or Law. (Whatever that Law or set of Principles or
Philosophy we each hold to as our answer to life)


To be free from the Law (again whatever Law we subscribe to) we must "die to ourselves.' I'm not talking physical Death, but a complete
acceptance of our inability to attain the impeccability or perfection that we strive for.


Don Juan said it when he mentioned that a warrior does not concern himself with whether or not he fails.


Paul; said it when he stated, "When I am weak, then am I strong."







Face to Face with the Foreign Installation




Romans 7




1
Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he
liveth?


2
For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is
loosed from the law of her husband.


3
So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead,
she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.


4
Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him
who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.


5
For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto
death.


6
But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in
the oldness of the letter.


7
What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the
law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


8
But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.


9
For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.


10
And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.


11
For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.


12
Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.


13
Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is
good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.


14
For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.


15
For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.


16
If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.


17
Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.


18
For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which
is good I find not.


19
For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.


20
Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.


21
I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.


22
For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:


23
But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is
in my members.


24
O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?


25
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of
sin.

[Mornings Son]

Geee Arnway....


Your dreaming is wild and powerful! But the basic is that your are able to identify the FI or IB (hmmm I not clear on if there is a difference for you), then
you side track them and 'beat them up'


Is it so?


Now these days you don't seem to have much time free from them, right?




What I'm interested in is how to break free from FI and use dreaming as a tool too.


Any wise word on that matter?

[ARNWAY]

Mornings Son wrote--------------------------- Geee Arnway....


Your dreaming is wild and powerful! But the basic is that your are able to identify the FI or IB (hmmm I not clear on if there is a difference for you), then
you side track them and 'beat them up'


Is it so?


Now these days you don't seem to have much time free from them, right?




What I'm interested in is how to break free from FI and use dreaming as a tool too.


Any wise word on that matter? ---------------------------------------------------------




There are many different type of Inorganic awareness beings out there just like or not different than people you see on the street and lets say the true enemy
that wants to bomb your house to kill your family is the foreign installation, the problem is to identify who is friend or foe.




Not all foreign awareness is the enemy and this is a fact but the problem is how to judge what is harmfull and what is good like strangers on the street.




I personally found that most foreign energy that I run into is 99% predatorial to suck your attention for there benefit and not yours.




The association of F.E. would be much to everyones benefit if we could communicate in a different manner than what is means that are taking place now and the
means of judgeing each other character and intent is pathetic for most people to make such a choice that will last a lifetime, which is very unfortunate
because as I stated in my previous post on a different thread that our heritage that had a strong connection to F.E. was intentionally taken away to make such
good judgement of our association with the other awareness beings that are akin to mankind.




You ask again how to shield yourself from the foreign installation while dreaming and my answer is again shut off your internal dialog and out stalk them and
you can start by doing it in your normal awareness.




We are constantly bombarded with energy forces and nobody has time to take for granted.




If you want to use dreaming as a tool then you must first learn on how to stalk.




I could stalk you as a friendly example to illustrate what I'm talking about when it comes to stalking if you want me to?