Tay Tay's Clever

[Le_Regard]

It is a great privilege to be able to see these things.

But I digress... there I go getting sidetracked and missing what's important again.



"I know what I came to do
And that ain't gonna change"

"But if my real ain't real enough
Then I don't know what is
Let's find a light inside our universe now
Where ain't nobody keep on holding us down
Just come and get it, let them say what they say
Cause I'm about to put them all away"

[Pixie Dust]

Hahaha.  What you're describing is degrees of freedom.  Some places have a larger degree than others.  It's important, these observations.  

I once had a teacher who would show me where to look, but never told me what to see.  I appreciated my teacher for kindling my flame and not filling my vessel.  That sounds like a dirty joke but it's totally not sexual.

[Pixie Dust]

Le_Regard wrote:
It is a great privilege to be able to see these things.

But I digress... there I go getting sidetracked and missing what's important again.



"I know what I came to do
And that ain't gonna change"

"But if my real ain't real enough
Then I don't know what is
Let's find a light inside our universe now
Where ain't nobody keep on holding us down
Just come and get it, let them say what they say
Cause I'm about to put them all away"

She's enjoyable. Shallow, but interesting. There's something catchy in her music, but she's not my favorite.

[Le_Regard]

Pixie Dust wrote:
She's enjoyable.  Shallow, but interesting.  There's something catchy in her music, but she's not my favorite.

I completely agree with that.

This is maybe the other end of the spectrum:

[Pixie Dust]

I was going to say... If I had a favorite, Lady Gaga is right at the surface.

She's so much fun.

[Le_Regard]

Well the video is almost 12 minutes long.  "Artpop" is a really interesting concept to explore but... the video is 12 minutes long and you have to watch ALL OF IT or nothing makes sense.

[Le_Regard]

Most of the skill involved in this seems to be packing as much depth into as shallow a package as possible, and with all due respect in every other way I wonder if she really achieved what she was going for with this.

[Le_Regard]

Maybe?

"Greetings from Eros
God of sexual desire and son of Aphrodite
Lay back and feast as this audio guides you
through new and exciting positions"

It's cool she just said it out loud and everything, but it took her 12 minutes.  I just think with THAT level of celebrity power I could do better than that, but maybe not.

[Le_Regard]

This is more like it.  3 minutes 37 seconds.

[Le_Regard]

For whatever this is worth, I once did an invocation of Satan in a friend's Manhattan apartment while visiting NYC, and I can resonate with this.  I read Baudelaire, I think?  I don't remember.  But the worst thing that happened to me was a general mental fatigue some intrusive thoughts about masturbating on the subway.  I survived.

http://www.poetes.com/baud/blitanies.htm

Also sometime around then I cut my finger on a broken bar stool in a FILTHY old school punk rock bar called The Mars Bar.  Apparently this bar was very FULL ON old school NYC punk.  But all I know is it was FILTHY and I cut my finger on the bar stool and was genuinely concerned that maybe I was going to catch the hepatitis if not actually the HIV.  Hepatitis is very punk rock, I think.

Also either right before that, or right after that, we went to the Reuben museum, which I believe is very famous, and saw their tantric art exhibits and an exhibit on Jung's Red Book.  Do you know Jung's Red Book?  I SAW IT.  I saw it with my eyes in a museum in NYC some time after slicing my finger open on a filthy bar stool and some time right before invoking Satan in my part-time sex worker friend's apartment.

The only thing I remember is something about a dragon swallowing the sun.  Something something like maybe the sun doesn't want to be swallowed but the dragon swallows it anyway.

Then we hung out with these guys that blamed Muslims for 9/11.  It wasn't on purpose, it's just the bar was extremely crowded.  I did what I could for these guys but it wasn't much.  Not the punk rock bar, by the way, it was more modern and pretentious bar with, if I remember this right, an Italian name.

All of this makes sense to me as something Lady Gaga, NYC indie legend turned mega pop star struggling to hold on to her roots might conceivably put into her art, because this is what it reminds me of.

But I don't know, I'm just stabbing at the darkness as usual.

[Le_Regard]

Either way, you know...  I'm over that.  This is better.

[Le_Regard]

Oh, I forgot about this one.  This song should have been on my favorites list too.

"He was long gone when he met me
And I realize the joke is on me
I knew you were trouble when you walked in
So shame on me now
Flew me to places I'd never been
So you put me down
I knew you were trouble when you walked in
So shame on me now
Flew me to places I'd never been
Now I'm lying on the cold hard ground"

There is really no limit to this.  It's just a hall of mirrors reflecting itself forever.

[Pixie Dust]

Le_Regard wrote:
There is really no limit to this.  It's just a hall of mirrors reflecting itself forever.

It's a very deep rabbit hole. It's certainly not for everyone.

I found this today, it's a cute cover of End Game from Tay's album.

[Le_Regard]

"End game" is a chess term for when most of the pieces have already been taken and the main strategy is over with and you're just struggling to pin down the King until He has no moves left at all.

It's also possible to end the game in a draw just by asking nicely, if both players agree.

This is what pop music from Bulgaria looks like by the way:



Beautiful but terrifying.

[Le_Regard]

Bulgaria's female pop stars do not appear to have any complicated emotions about their relationships.  It all seems very straightforward and obviously dangerous to anyone who gets too close to THEM.

[Le_Regard]

You see all these shirtless male backup dancers and you kind of get the feeling that after the show they all get sacrificed backstage inside some pyramid built for goddesses already ancient when Bulgaria was young.

[Pixie Dust]

Le_Regard wrote:
Bulgaria's female pop stars do not appear to have any complicated emotions about their relationships.  It all seems very straightforward and obviously dangerous to anyone who gets too close to THEM.



Lol.  Just forget the logistics of it.  *** the fine print.  I never cared for rules and regulations anyway.  I would rather die free than live chained.  

You were always so difficult to convince.  Tedious and careful.

I always wanted to play.  You always wanted to read.  How we're even friends is beyond me.

I mean, so what if you don't know all the rules.  Just make them up as you go and sound convincing.  Why are you always so serious? It's not like we're guarding missile codes.

[Le_Regard]

Pixie Dust wrote:Lol.  Just forget the logistics of it.  *** the fine print.  I never cared for rules and regulations anyway.  I would rather die free than live chained.  

You were always so difficult to convince.  Tedious and careful.

I always wanted to play.  You always wanted to read.  How we're even friends is beyond me.

I mean, so what if you don't know all the rules.  Just make them up as you go and sound convincing.  Why are you always so serious? It's not like we're guarding missile codes.
The logistics is the interesting part.

Anyone can shoot a gun, but it's hardcore if you know where bullets come from.

There was a famous US Army general that said something like, "Amateurs talk strategy. Professionals talk logistics."

I think the strategy is over with... so... professionalism it is.

I don't want to chain you up. I do however feel very strongly that maybe if I were, just by coincidence, the kind of person you'd like to be around voluntarily then maybe that would not be such a bad thing.

Writing books is playing too, isn't it?

[Pixie Dust]

Le_Regard wrote:
Pixie Dust wrote:Lol.  Just forget the logistics of it.  *** the fine print.  I never cared for rules and regulations anyway.  I would rather die free than live chained.  

You were always so difficult to convince.  Tedious and careful.

I always wanted to play.  You always wanted to read.  How we're even friends is beyond me.

I mean, so what if you don't know all the rules.  Just make them up as you go and sound convincing.  Why are you always so serious?  It's not like we're guarding missile codes.
The logistics is the interesting part.

Anyone can shoot a gun, but it's hardcore if you know where bullets come from.

There was a famous US Army general that said something like, "Amateurs talk strategy. Professionals talk logistics."

I think the strategy is over with... so... professionalism it is.

I don't want to chain you up.  I do however feel very strongly that maybe if I were, just by coincidence, the kind of person you'd like to be around voluntarily then maybe that would not be such a bad thing.

Writing books is playing too, isn't it?

You've always been someone I enjoy being around voluntarily. I'm just super touchy having people close to me right now. This is good for now and let's just see how this goes.

To be honest, I'm barely keeping my head above water. I've seen better days. There's been a lot of pressure. It's not been easy watching over everyone. It took a lot out of me, emotionally and spiritually. I can't risk losing more of myself because there's just not much left of me. I'm not quite a person you want to be close to right now because I'm not ok. I can't explain what I mean by that, but it's safe to assume there's quite a bit I haven't shared that's affecting me. I want you close because you're familiar. Just not too close because there's still a lot of turmoil.

I'm trying to figure out how to be ok. Business is great though. To be perfectly honest, I think I have PTSD. I can function, but I get triggered by certain things and can't function. It's been a struggle and so I've been keeping away everyone but those who are actively helping me recover.

It really is me, not you. Know that I enjoy the simple exchanges we have here. It gives me a break from more complex concerns. It's also nice to laugh at someone else for a change. So carry on with your speculations. It's nice to have muggle company for a change.

[Le_Regard]

Pixie Dust wrote:Le_Regard wrote:
Pixie Dust wrote:Lol.  Just forget the logistics of it.  *** the fine print.  I never cared for rules and regulations anyway.  I would rather die free than live chained.  

You were always so difficult to convince.  Tedious and careful.

I always wanted to play.  You always wanted to read.  How we're even friends is beyond me.

I mean, so what if you don't know all the rules.  Just make them up as you go and sound convincing.  Why are you always so serious?  It's not like we're guarding missile codes.
The logistics is the interesting part.

Anyone can shoot a gun, but it's hardcore if you know where bullets come from.

There was a famous US Army general that said something like, "Amateurs talk strategy. Professionals talk logistics."

I think the strategy is over with... so... professionalism it is.

I don't want to chain you up.  I do however feel very strongly that maybe if I were, just by coincidence, the kind of person you'd like to be around voluntarily then maybe that would not be such a bad thing.

Writing books is playing too, isn't it?

You've always been someone I enjoy being around voluntarily. I'm just super touchy having people close to me right now. This is good for now and let's just see how this goes.

To be honest, I'm barely keeping my head above water. I've seen better days. There's been a lot of pressure. It's not been easy watching over everyone. It took a lot out of me, emotionally and spiritually. I can't risk losing more of myself because there's just not much left of me. I'm not quite a person you want to be close to right now because I'm not ok. I can't explain what I mean by that, but it's safe to assume there's quite a bit I haven't shared that's affecting me. I want you close because you're familiar. Just not too close because there's still a lot of turmoil.

I'm trying to figure out how to be ok. Business is great though. To be perfectly honest, I think I have PTSD. I can function, but I get triggered by certain things and can't function. It's been a struggle and so I've been keeping away everyone but those who are actively helping me recover.

It really is me, not you. Know that I enjoy the simple exchanges we have here. It gives me a break from more complex concerns. It's also nice to laugh at someone else for a change. So carry on with your speculations. It's nice to have muggle company for a change.I don't have a very good response to any of that.

But 1.) please do not underestimate what I'm capable of dealing with out of some kind of compassion for ME and 2.) if we can't share each other's burdens there is maybe no point to doing any of this at all.

I can't say a lot about that without giving away Masonic secrets (and the whole "brotherhood" narrative kind of breaks down at several points anyway) but suffice it to say I do mean that, and while I can respect your boundaries, none of that has actually frightened me away.

[Le_Regard]

Is Depeche Mode pop music?

They're still making albums apparently and they did a huge stadium tour this year... so they're not Lady Gaga, but sure, kind of, right?

[Pixie Dust]

Music is like the news. It reports what's relevant. Some things wind up on the front page, other things the middle. It's important to showcase the community because people believe in and connect with events and people they know. It also sets the archetype, assumptions, and expectations.

Record sales and popularity often dictate the artists that become elevated.

[Le_Regard]

I think we hit a point, no one entirely knows when, when the big music companies just tell us what's popular now and THEN people buy it.

I've heard that MTV discovered this many years ago.  They were trying to figure out what was "cool" so they could put cool stuff on TV, but their research came to an absurd realization that whatever they put on TV was cool.

[Le_Regard]

Pop stars are definitely...  I'd say "Masks of the Gnosis".  That's just how I talk, apparently.  Masks of the Gnosis.  Stained glass windows -- that kind of thing.

Taylor Swift has come a hell of a long way from her American "pop country" roots, by the way.  I mean, wow.




I've heard this before, but I didn't even know it was one of hers.

[Pixie Dust]

Yep.  Used carelessly the media sets a bad example.  The sheep follow.  It's an issue involving factions.