Modern Nagualism-What Happens After Death?

[rosygyro]

i reckon it goes like this -whatever jesus is/was the truht is the billion crucifixes and the billions of deaths in religions name severly pollute the mans healing of several thousand people many years ago.jesus had a vision on the cross in which he was foresaken..foreskaen is to see 2000 years unfold.. and within it people killed and abused in his name.
1)a) Devil- the penultimate organic being representing earth/NORTH energy as it tends to potential awarness   b) Lucifer- the reflection of potential energy from the EAST quarter   c) Satan- a product of the SOUTHerly power a it strikes the liminal space between.. early civilisational awarness formats and modern megapolis living.
2).. a reincarnating man of the south.. whos purpose is to mark a transition.. his incarnation is an inturning one.. i.e. at an early point in awarness history that man had a vision of the universe reaching its perfected end.. and then beginning to transmute its contents..reincarnative awarness as such arrives in a second awarness of the world as it is inturning and transmuting the universal whole.

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[rosygyro]

Homework for you guys.
1) What are the most easterly crucifixs on our world..answers may include research into crucifix making molding factories.crucifix shaped mobile phones.crucifix shaped geneticly engineered fruit.
we have the old.. the 2000 year old olive wood plank with its nail of red rust...when is jesus gonna get out of the west.. and make something of where we are going?HMMMM.coz im not feeling it man..should be a jesus sattelite or something man!

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[rosygyro]

Uncle Sam wrote:What are the conclusions of this article bro ? Can You write me pls a few points ? thnx
http://truthbook.com/faq/dsp_viewFAQ.cfm?faqID=1945hey.. youve been deleting all your comments and posts..why am i banned from sustained reaction?

[Gestblinde]

What really is the difference between the Eagles hunger for your awareness and the traditional Godheads love of your soul... Perhaps our point of view?

[delawaredan]

Yes...point of view. Perception.......awareness.....intent.

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glance left wrote:Moment of death maybe something like this:

Darkness, then flashes of color..then intense and complete surge into second attention state in which a multiplicity of options...venues for perception...dreaming worlds so to speak... press in around individual...beckoning...becoming available...and individual now doesn't have 1st attention..physical attention...as a refuge...an anchor...so the dreamer is unmoored so to speak and thus compelling forces will have immediate impact upon dreamer without that previous buffer we've all gotten used to relying on to bail us out If sufficient detachment/energy is cultivated then dreamer has a kind of overseeing vantage point to be able to choose...to have some conscious input into what one wants in terms of perception. If not, then the aggregate of one's personal history chooses for them, for better or for worse...the all engulfing world experienced representing the essence of what's been cultivated in the life (or lives?) of the dreamer. For the most detached and integrated, maybe all options available, plus the ability to inhabit with some cohesion a purely abstract, inbetween state...a state in which just pure fractalising light/emptyness multi-potential energy-that-is-aware exists which precipitates all dreamed worlds. The Sea. So maybe if one can fully release, in full power, to the Sea then one can inhabit any island in the Sea? Something along these lines.

Apart from these fleeting hunchy thoughts, I really have no fucking clue WHAT's gonna happen after death I'm quite partial to this perspective of what happens at the point of death and soon after.  Essentially we're offered a buffet of experiences and if we're capable, we're able to actively choose where we want to reside.  If we're lacking (for a better word) power, we're lured into a chaotic structure of basic desires.  The ability to detach at will appears quite useful during this time too. 
Glance Left sort of lost me when it gets to the sea.  The abstract idea of being able to go where one desires in the vast sea of the afterlife is comprehensible.  What becomes questionable is the idea of complete detachment being the key to access all/any dimension at will.  I'm a firm believer of there being more than one way to 'capture the king'. 
All that aside, this is only what I consider the transition into death.  What happens after the transition is a much larger idea.

[NagualHuman]

There are infinite ways "to capture the king" but if you capture the king? would you want to stay a king ? Or would you be so much attached to the being of king, that you wouldnt be able to see yourself as king but after that as beggar and after that maybe even as alien, well I do not know what the *** will happen if King+Beggar=1 That I leave for your destiny to unfold, maybe its already two sorcerers in one, as you cant say no that, because the both halfs of the both cores that are one must give off something so that buth can be Only one as pecerptualized symbiotic connection that is seen even between first and second voice and even second and first attention and even between dogs and cats.
Catdog is what you are...

[Guest]

You misunderstand the king. What I meant was there's more than one way to accomplish a goal, kill a goldfish, or eat a banana. Whichever wavelength your mind works at, mine can't do the things yours can. If I can't understand you, there's really no point. There's even moments where I do understand but your mind is so scatterbrained that it makes it not worth the effort.

[NagualHuman]

maybe what I you wrote as what you see is what you see in yourself but on the otherside that what really is....
By words to another you recognize yourself you see your aproach to the world

So sorry that I misunderstood the king, the kaomea or the banana ? I think they are the same

[Senear]

Kaomea wrote:You misunderstand the king. What I meant was there's more than one way to accomplish a goal, kill a goldfish, or eat a banana. Whichever wavelength your mind works at, mine can't do the things yours can. If I can't understand you, there's really no point. There's even moments where I do understand but your mind is so scatterbrained that it makes it not worth the effort.

So to capture the king is to skin the cat, or slice the banana? So the wave length one works at is like their tool, or filter, and it approaches it ina way that is clear to it, but with others, their descriptive perspective on how they do/see it may or may not connect or make scense in the context of another's...wave length?

[NagualHuman]

The king lies in the middle between the polarities, I after walk appeared at town square, but what matters is most is the way of heart that is between the core of the problem, from which the both sides,polarites and possibilites of outcome come, if you understand the core of the task you wish to accomplish than you can choose freely the option that is called total freedom.

When you learn something from someone you feel it as that you are someone small and someone big is giving you a ability a certain pieces of his tallness, like when teaching martial arts, but the point is in that in reality they are all even the king and beggar the teacher and apprentice and the core which must be understood is that if two absolutely different poles of things or personalites like teacher and learner and king and beggar join together and use their powers together than they have much more, because two absolutely different poles can make a core a symbiotic relationship that is much more bigger and better, and than when comes king and beggar together, than the alien and human comes also together its on an on the possible way to explain this, is to try to see it everyone in means that every object is a line, and from X is made whole world
and its no coincidence that the DNA is X...

This is also called teleportation as that is what crossing of lines is....

[Guest]

I agree. Teleportation is X, which is DNA, and every object is a line. Good thoughts, NagualHuman.

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NagualHuman wrote:The king lies in the middle between the polarities, I after walk appeared at town square, but what matters is most is the way of heart that is between the core of the problem, from which the both sides,polarites and possibilites of outcome come, if you understand the core of the task you wish to accomplish than you can choose freely the option that is called total freedom.

When you learn something from someone you feel it as that you are someone small and someone big is giving you a ability a certain pieces of his tallness, like when teaching martial arts, but the point is in that in reality they are all even the king and beggar the teacher and apprentice and the core which must be understood is that if two absolutely different poles of things or personalites like teacher and learner and king and beggar join together and use their powers together than they have much more, because two absolutely different poles can make a core a symbiotic relationship that is much more bigger and better, and than when comes king and beggar together, than the alien and human comes also together its on an on the possible way to explain this, is to try to see it everyone in means that every object is a line, and from X is made whole world
and its no coincidence that the DNA is X...

This is also called teleportation as that is what crossing of lines is....Heh, X is made whole world and its no coincidence that the DNA is X? 
That reminds me of something great.  Flavortastic.  XXX, NH.  I do believe that is built into our DNA, the desire to X everyone we meet, transforming both them us into something bigger and badder.  Like a beast.

[rosygyro]

you say DNA is X..



as if the Y of a male is not the DNA but is the unknowable nagual portion of male awarness..
I like that its interesting..

also interesting is that a unborn female XX child in the womb has ALL the eggs she will ever menstrate in her ovaries as did her mother and her grandmother and her great grandmother etc..
developing in darkness the female DNA is a direct root into the inherant awarness of our species..

MEN and their Y .. wre not born with sperm in their testes.. in fact not only having to make it through puberty without falling off the naguals path..
but also day to day the nature of the sperm he potentially creates with changes,,

I doubt there is a TOMBOLA within the female ovaries making which egg an act of chance like there is with the male..

I think that men who never ejaculate may harness a type of inherant awarness in their sexual energy becuase they dont use it..
but equally a man who is in charge of his sexual energy can tabulate its expenditure and so rather than lose energy.. create a time and rythm based sexual superstructure in the sorcerers world.

yes nagual human i will talk to you on chat. but we must find a way to get the timing right.

[rosygyro]

[NagualHuman]

Don Juan said...that in essence everything is only sexual energy, its hard to believe but again it is so simple... a men who would never ejaculate would use his energy elsehow... he can either use it to maintain his inner dialogue, to seek freedom, to act petty or anything else if its makes him accumulate energy depends only on him which is exactly the same with man who have sex every day it depends only on what you gain from it and if there can be made change that would push you further.... For me sexual act, gives me alot of energy only because I am able to stalk through that act and take that reactions made in that act as "enlightning" by bigger value than by the expenses it costs me, but when you see it that it brings you more than it costs you...that in reality it only gives you as that is how I perceive it, I was born with alot of energy so your opinions on this may differ... but stalker should be able to take from any situations everything he can and so does the sexual act is really pleasant act to perform The thing is to connect your energy right so that you can see the sexual act as something much much bigger than just "IN and OUT" you must really give everything into it, take it like warrior takes everything as challange thus means...doing it 101%...
But well for me as everything is only sexual energy...energy of connection...energy of two different things conected into one... I perceive even this discussion as sexual act...

[NagualHuman]

Ye and Also I never saw a single man beign an Y I dont understand what you mean... every human is big x.......... stretch your arms and legs wide and maybe you will understand...
I know no classifications of Ys so you should make it clearer... and also Y is not counterpart of X.... Yin is counterpart of Yang....

[rosygyro]

In my earlier attempts at vision.. i spent a time deliberatly intending to understand what "severence from the tonal" entailed.



I would basicly take a situation such as a  deadfall from a tree, or a jump accross a stream and intend within that part of me
which is at the mercy of material forces.. just as severence from the tonal is only a window on a life you no longer control..
uncontrollable acts are a window to the nagual..
Have you ever gone into total inner silence at a moment of would be panic??? during a unplanned aquaplane on the road, or while being attacked..
"calm as hindu cows",, well i think thats natural forces reply!

When i was born i was the youngest newborn on the planet, i have been slipping my way to death ever since..
when i was a child 100% of adults were different to me..
within mest.. the ratio of family members once holding great grandparents and uncles has given way to great nieces and nephews.
life is a rolling boil..

where i would conserve energy by severing portions of my will which had no handle on control anyway
so too should males talking to each other be able to put their sexual energy out of their perception "save it"..
don genaro may have intended against the severence, that does not mean it is a polite thing to do!

I am no homophobe but i do think the 9 month future that the potential energy has through conception is divine..
i do not necissarily think that two men can plot a "creative" future with as much energetic truth as a womb can when carrying child.
I find
XX XY becomes 3xy
and xy xy becomes xy squared,

xy squared is an amplification of the combined KNOWN of males in energetic attatchment..
inflections of gangs gestures and patoi even the cliched queens can be explained by KNOWN amplification within sexual contact and polarity.
Even the color of your unit is percievable becuase of collected response to transmutation of inflexibility.
therefore i think the vOID is the most polite thing any men can put between them or indeed within themselves as reflection.
VOID XY VOID
VOID XY VOID

[NagualHuman]

I dont know what you speka bout you are exceptional undercurrent of homophobic person, with with I will not speak as my concerns are farer than just blackness as that you saw within
YOU MUCH TALK... You dont know where to stop...men behind curtain...light behind blackness of the void is your first name and explosion the second,,,there are no exceptions in total overwhelmning reality builded on same rule allsidely and wide as never before....to gain knowledge of talking and reasoning is the purpose of your void side, which is same as tao in you present in the shouting the void, which is only a word of act, for which you so long scream for....your power is of scream as you fucking scree your strangely almost insanely like inorgenicaly...the point to sustain awareness in third demension, which is created by two dimenonsions and which in your words is show are really sadly funny...
If you are looking for the void..for the escape I suggest you deleting all words with void..., which will every time show you DEEPER(in your ass if you prefer, this barbacic communication)
Or to your mouth? If you understand, what the *** am saying to you all the time...

[NagualHuman]

In my earlier attempts at vision.. i spent a time deliberatly intending to understand what "severence from the tonal" entailed.
I would basicly take a situation such as a deadfall from a tree, or a jump accross a stream and intend within that part of me
which is at the mercy of material forces.. just as severence from the tonal is only a window on a life you no longer control..
uncontrollable acts are a window to the nagual..
Have you ever gone into total inner silence at a moment of would be panic??? during a unplanned aquaplane on the road, or while being attacked..
"calm as hindu cows",, well i think thats natural forces reply!
When i was born i was the youngest newborn on the planet, i have been slipping my way to death ever since..
when i was a child 100% of adults were different to me..
within mest.. the ratio of family members once holding great grandparents and uncles has given way to great nieces and nephews.
life is a rolling boil..
where i would conserve energy by severing portions of my will which had no handle on control anyway
so too should males talking to each other be able to put their sexual energy out of their perception "save it"..
don genaro may have intended against the severence, that does not mean it is a polite thing to do!

Go back to the roots of your visions and connected with present and thus making the future, you ways are good as you proceed, you discover ways that seems to have no connections with that already discovered, but when you connect together something almost unjoinable and almost impossible paradoxical... than you know your purpose for which you came here... To take the reign of everything in your hand *** on anything and make a hole in whole awareness... as you are man behind curtain... and that is your nature

[NagualHuman]

Do you remember when don juan took castaneda to the west... to the wild west... to see silvio manuel... you are of same personality as him, and if you wont repeat his ways.. but you will use the thinking of how he does, while doing your own magic and trick but with same kind of energy...that you are able to do great wonders as men behind curtain is the INTENT!!!

[NagualHuman]

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