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I know am a type1 warrior (scholarly man), I saw all my group practitioners except Nagual. We all came into contact about 10 yers ago. Now all scattered about. 'Master of intent' sold his house and disappeared, 'man of action' started his business and we lost contacts, 'courier' man leads a life of recluse, not knowing if he wants to see anybody at all. Northerly, Westerly and Easterly women have children now. Me and Southerly woman are still together and still helping each other. Has the agreement changed for all? Not for us. We can live and act separatly but we all are still a part of the group.
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Welcome to the forum man.
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LOL !!!!
Please tell more of your stories !
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Links made with power will never fade and upon death they will rise and burn.
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Just wanted to know what do you know about the agreement (or the rule).
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Hello Jueves viernes, what little you said is interesting but can you give us a little more information on your inquiry.
You ask questions when you don't make it clear what your agreement with who or what it is?
Are you talking about some thing you read about or are you refering to your pyramid sales business structure working on commission to earn a dollar?
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Hi J
I also like to know more about what you agreed to and how.
This will hopefully show how much Power there is in the agreement/group-relationship after the splitting and the years gone.
MS
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I was talking about the agreement between the eagle and the humans. Sorcerers form the group to leave the world untouched from the death, and enter in other dimension. That was the agreement and the rule I meant.
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If one realizes the Nahual in this lifetime, one can die consciously and bypass the Eagle.
The Eagle is simply the means to return useless matter to its original state for use in the universe. Our awareness is absorbed into the whole.
As we are all Nahual atoms, we have an inate drive to achieve this. We can retains the integrity of awareness after passing. For the Standing Mother,
DG
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The point is ARE you aware what type of man or woman you are in DJ's terms? There were 4 types men and 4 types women described in CC's Eagle's gift. I know what type I am. What about you?
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I am. Thanks for asking. What is your motive?For the Standing Mother,
DG
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DoktorGreen
If you know what type you are my questions are
Are you envolved in any kind of activities aimed to help your group (if you have it)? If no
Are you still waiting for a chance to meet your group?
If no
Do you use special predisposition of your type in doing anything (alone or in cooperation)?
That were the things I was interested.
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I am very interested in hearing the answers to Jueves Viernes questions and i would also like to put another question.
When i had read the Law as described in CC's books something had definetely clisked inside me. But.. even then, at my first contact with that text i knew inside me that something didn't fit anymore.
What i am trying to say is, that then, just like now, i perceived that this law is not for now.
I beleive that Castaneda was trully the end of his tradition. And exactly for this reason all those books appeared in public at this era. Even distorted and presented under a specific point of view, there is a reason why the opportunity was given (at this time)to these philosophies to spread to the world-even if under the form of hints.
The way i see it, the law as described in the books of Castaneda has changed.
Now we live in the time of moving fast, of the Internet, of the world market. The energies have changed.
I can't really explain this better. And plus, i am not aware of what kind of energy configuration i have (according to descriptions of the law), so.. maybe i am wrong in what i say-i am in darkness about my own energy configuration so maybe i am in darkness about the truth of the law. Who knows..
But i do feel that the era has changed. The fact that I (a european) have READ the law from a book i bought at my neighbourhood bookstore is an energy fact i cannot close my eyes to.
what do you say in relation to this?
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correction "Law as described in CC's books something had definetely clicked inside me. "
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Hello Jueves Viernes,
"Are you involved in any kind of activities aimed to help your group?"
Yes.
"Are you still waiting for a chance to meet your group?"
No.
"Do you use special predisposition of your type in doing anything (alone or in cooperation)?"
Yes. Both. I assist.
Saranicka,
I perceive, as you, that things are quite different now. They will continue to change quickly. The Warriors Party and traditions are no longer going to be needed. They got us to this point with remnants of truth intact. Now every person has a limited window to take advantage of the clear and present energy change that is in place. However, these traditions WILL be needed after the changes have settled and humanity rises again from its sleep. Those charged with holding them must not fail in perpetuating them.....For the Standing Mother,
DG
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For saranicka and DoktorGreen
That was the kind of answer I supposed to hear. So, what is the new Rule, I mean the Rule we are having now as an agreement with the Eagle? What do you know if you do?
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Hello Jueves Viernes,
I share only my experience here. At this time in the transformation of the planet, it is very possible to realize the Nahual without a tradition. Those following a tradition can use that path, but it's not essential. Most here, having made moderate to great effort at recapping, can bring about the shift. Everyone has had some profound experience and realization at some time. Follow that same method now. Maybe it was meditation. Maybe it was psychotropic plant energy. Maybe it was the Gait of Power. Maybe it was dreaming.
The point is, TODAY; right now, it can bring a shift of awareness. And beyond that, NOW that shift will hold in one's awareness longer! Repetition of the method will be necessary a few times to create a more permanent shift.
So I say "Begin in earnest, just like you did years ago. YOU are all you need now. The Earth is radiating a finer force.
For the Standing Mother,
DG
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""Maybe it was meditation. Maybe it was psychotropic plant energy. Maybe it was the Gait of Power. Maybe it was dreaming.
The point is, TODAY; right now, it can bring a shift of awareness. And beyond that, NOW that shift will hold in one's awareness longer! Repetition of the method will be necessary a few times to create a more permanent shift.
So I say "Begin in earnest, just like you did years ago. YOU are all you need now. The Earth is radiating a finer force."
I find that the shifts (of profound experience and realization) last longer and there is less time between there episodes recently. It also has had more dramatic effects upon my body. Kundalini, I believe.
I think the important thing to remember in this changing "shift of spiritual environment", is that we will be led. Whether you think of it as Power, Nagual or the Holy Spirit, we will be shown what we as individuals are supposed to involve ourselves with. To increase our awareness and perception is necessary in order to remain alert and open to that guidance.
This "transformation of the planet" as you termed it seems to be a subject that has come to my attention recently from various sources, You among them.
It's difficult to discern a "thinning" of the veils of Reality when your own perceptions and your ability to pass through those veils is also changing.
Either way, I think the answer is the same. Stay open. It's all about growing in our perception.
If we do, our place in the big picture will be revealed to us.Bob
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Hi Bob,
Very interesting comments. I agree with your assessments. I only want to say one thing that has been pushing at my awareness. This 'shift' into the Nahual, the totality, has another characteristic that can be voiced. Everyone speaks of perception. The act of moving one's point of awareness to another place of assemblage. Again, I share my own experience here. The shift I am speaking about is not a perception. It is Total Awareness. Maybe this is the 3rd attention.... I don't know. But here it is. There is no perception. No view. No observation. There is simultaneous awareness of all things as part of the total self, the Nahual.
If one is perceiving, one is still separate and in the 1st or 2nd attention. Perception is a factor in those states. In the true Ocean of Purity, there is complete awareness...; what is outside the self to perceive?
For the Standing Mother,
DG
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For Bob May and Doktor Green
"The point is, TODAY; right now, it can bring a shift of awareness. And beyond that, NOW that shift will hold in one's awareness longer! Repetition of the method will be necessary a few times to create a more permanent shift."
I'm not so optimistic about that. One human being's energy is not enough. We have no time for speculation or waiting for a miracle. Maybe to find the parallel being in dreaming is the way out.
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From my part i have nothing more to say than what DG and Bob May said.
I only have a book proposition for you to read: Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse. I spend one summer day doing nothing but reading this book at the beach and then home. At night i finished it and it caused to me what it is called in castaneda's jargon "to stop the world" (even though i haven't read that book of his yet). I will never forget that feeling-that state of being, it's impossible, and it changed me deeply.
So, for me that book was a trigger, maybe it will be for you too-or simply it will make you understand my point of view :-)
In any case it is a nice book to read and a small one too lol))
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Hi Saranicka,
I have read it, though it was many years ago. You are right it is a very good book and I think about it from time to time. Very similar to the parable of the "Prodigal Son" in the New Testament.
The most important thing it says to me is that we must reach the end of ourselves to receive enlightenment.
BobBob
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Hi Doktor Green,
"This 'shift' into the Nahual, the totality, has another characteristic that can be voiced. Everyone speaks of perception. The act of moving one's point of awareness to another place of assemblage. Again, I share my own experience here. The shift I am speaking about is not a perception. It is Total Awareness. Maybe this is the 3rd attention.... I don't know. But here it is. There is no perception. No view. No observation. There is simultaneous awareness of all things as part of the total self, the Nahual.
If one is perceiving, one is still separate and in the 1st or 2nd attention. Perception is a factor in those states. In the true Ocean of Purity, there is complete awareness...; what is outside the self to perceive?"
This is a very good point and a lot "clicked" for me when I read it. I tend to use the words awareness and perception interchangeably and I shouldn't. This past year has been one of great change for me.
I would say that the change is in my "Awareness" or "Understanding". Like I'm seeing the "big picture" more than I have before. It's like I am getting revelations on things that I already got revelations on. Just a deeper understanding of the same things. And that maybe that is the way it will continue.
I believe that my whole past;"the good, bad and the ugly" have led to this, and were for a reason.
Two revelations that seemed to "trigger" this are Bible based because that it my roadmap of reality.
The first is a realization that the Old Testament Laws, all of the "thou shalts" and "thou shalt nots" are actually promises and prophecies to tell us what we are growing into. "Thou shalt not covet" is telling us about how we are changing, not commanding us. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart...etc. Is the same thing. Telling us that becoming one with the All is becoming more and more important to us and will be the only thing of any importance to us as we grow in understanding and awareness.
The other revelation has to do with the true meaning of the law of circumcision. It goes something like; You shall be circumcised -in the flesh- throughout your generations.
This is describing the peeling away of the layers of limitation (or flesh) of both our awareness and perception.
The generations would be the different stages of waking up or coming to life. In the flesh would also mean that it will happen while we are still in this body, Now. Not in some coming reincarnation.
I would have to go back and read Don Juan's description of the 3rd attention to see if it fits, but it may. And, I think it may also fit "Christ Consciousness" or "I Am", or "I and the Father are One".
I'm not saying I am there, I'm only looking at the direction this seems to be going.
Bob
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Good morning,
Jueves Viernes, you said-
"One human being's energy is not enough. We have no time for speculation or waiting for a miracle. Maybe to find the parallel being in dreaming is the way out."
One person's energy is more than enough!! If you have experienced the double in dreaming, it may be a way for you today. It IS a miracle; create it. What do you have to lose?
Saranica, I have also read the book, many years ago. One of my early triggers!
Bob those are profound realizations on your path! Both new to me; I can now see how that can be so.
For the Standing Mother,
DG
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The movement of the assemblage point where man is at one with the universe, its totality within and without him is truly as Dok says an awareness where perception is actually non-existent because of the oneness achieved.
This is a most desired state and will increase personal power dramatically. Once this has been achieved the next object is to maintain this high degree.
To me the third perception is when there are three events of seeing being observed by the seer or warrior. These states can be accessed without any training or intent.
Stopping the world is a shift of awareness where we percieve the unreality of our world around us and its profound effect changes us forever.
Nahual awareness needs not a tradition or nagual leader to develop.
Speculation or waiting is not a choice. The world has been changing and that there will be more intimes to come is endless debate.
The parallel being is the double created by the dreamer. They are one and the same.
Achieving totallity of the double and the dreamer is done when ever you wake up.
The way out is by making a doorway with your power, power will make you a doorway and see if you enter, or when you die and your soul is free, what you decide and go is the question eh?
Lone Wolf
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