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The Power of Group Intention
#26
that is a crappy anime - bailed it after 13 min.
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#27
Too bad, MS, because you missed out.  It gets progressively better, in both it's theme and message.
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#28
Sacred Knowledge of Vibration
(especially Time 19:35 to Time 60:00)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 0gBoV0ygJc
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#29
To happy clappy christian like for me. Its amazing that I watch so much.

Wish I had knew to start at 19:35
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#30
MS;
Well, there's nothing Christian about
this video, or even remotely resembling anything religious. I posted
the link here because I found this material very spiritually
uplifting and inspiring. It is also my hope that such video
material, in combination with the various subjects already presented
in this thread, will inspire comprehensive discussion.


Some of the important themes which can be
gleaned from the video are as follows;


That our personal intention registers
scientifically validated effects upon each other, and the material
plane in which we live.


That there is a marked difference
between the effects of intentions of hatred and fear, with those that
are created through love and clarity.


That we are beings of consciousness,
one that transcends nations, ethnicity, religion, dogmas of all
kinds, cultures, places and times. This fact emphasizes the need for
self realization, and a freeing up from the confines of traditional
thought, in favor of a far more enlightened world. The truth of life
is a demonstrated constant, one that must be recognized by human
beings if we are to survive the accumulated errors of history.


That as centers of consciousness, it is
our need to combine our intentions with others, especially on a
spiritual basis. Group mind action via spiritual intention, has such
power that it could indeed transform the world and save mankind. The
modern crisis is not political, social, economic or religious in
nature, it is spiritual...one of a lack of high consciousness and
self realization.


In essence, the purpose of life is the
evolution of both consciousness and the corresponding higher forms
that arise as a result. It is not vain egotism or the
accumulation of material objects!


That the words “consciousness” and
“soul” are for all practical purposes synonymous. That as souls
(centers of consciousness, with or without bodies) we have incarnated
many times, yet always for one central purpose; to expand the
consciousness that we are, and to assist in the great purpose of
uplifting the consciousness of our species as a whole.


That a deep respect for life and its'
evolution, including the furthering of human evolution, is essentail
for every practitioner.


That modern physics and ancient
mysticism are actually in accord with one another. Both of these
disciplines are now forced to draw the same basic conclusions
regarding the nature of reality, due to the overwhelming evidence
which has been made evident by scientific research and gnosticism
alike.


This is of course an incomplete list of
the themes presented in this and the previous video. Never the less,
it is a fundamentally important message for all who would be sentient
and make great progress in life! Not all of what is presented is credible.  But this does not invalidate the merit of the majority of the statement made by this worthy project. Those who would treat it lightly demonstrate their lack of wisdom.
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#31
alas

The predictable self importance of the social club
I/we live up to your predictions, is that not like a quantum phenomenon where the watcher effect the experiment?

I agree with you one the essence of the post.

Guess you are a Lightworker (whatever that means) or part of some other international group, yes?
Putting your intention in concert with a big group of people for the changing of humanities and Mother Earths karma
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#32
"The predictable self importance of the social club" What does MS's statement have to do with this judgmental post title . I do not see the connection to any group. It was his opinion.

In regards to the info you presented - I liked it very much. thanks
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#33
Is this supposed to be an instruction manual for group consciousness dynamics? if so its not working too well is it?...
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#34
Lol.....
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#35
Intent wielder "it is our need to combine our intentions with others, especially on a spiritual basis. Group mind action via spiritual intention, has such power that it could indeed transform the world and save mankind. The modern crisis is not political, social, economic or religious in nature, it is spiritual...one of a lack of high consciousness and self realization"

hmmmmm.....need????..the planet needs something from us?..since when were we so important..im sure it would be doing better if we weren't on it.....going to volunteer?
sounds like concern to me

btw..unconditional love...something i believe lightworkers strive for IS unconcern....the nagual IS unconcern they are two sides of the same coin...

it may not be high on the list of your personal priorities, like exiting the planet for its benefit, however fixed perceptions on the need to help fix the planet and humanity as a whole could be recapitulated to find out where that programming belief system came from....

btw this is a stalk..not to belittle you, but to get you to pause and go into the silence for a while, there is another way to group consciousness and unification in unconcern...just go look inside im trusting youll find it with intent....
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#36
Can anyone help me out. I've got some heavy intent aimed at me, as usual, to destroy and defeat. I'm wondering if any of you have had any dreams concerning me of late or are getting any immediate impressions? Don't want to derail this topic but need some quick input. Hope all have been well.

Silhouette
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#37
Greetings, Shamanka,


Yes, need. It is exactly as the post said; "it is our
need to combine our intentions with others, especially on a spiritual
basis.”


I didn't say the planet necessarily needed something from us, I
said it is OUR NEED, as a species, as human beings. Thus the
statement, “Group mind action via spiritual intention, has such
power that it could indeed transform the world and save mankind.”


There is no question that humanity now stands on the very brink of
self destruction. This doesn't have to be the case. The primary
reason that our species is in such a condition is because of the
wrong use of intention, both individually and collectively. The
degradation of the human condition is one that has compounded wrong
intent over the course of many millennia, and particularly, over the
last several centuries. Greed, the assumption that whatever we want
to believe is more important than the facts, (arrogance) social
“status” and blind competition are examples of such wrong intent.
Mutual cooperation, clarity, truth above all else, love, self
realization and respect for nature/natural laws are examples of right
intention. Were we to engage such right intention with spiritual
purpose, it could at least preserve a portion of humankind for the
sake of a far more enlightened era.


I'm not familiar with the term “unconcern”. Is that anything
like not caring?


And no, “exiting the planet for it's benefit” is not high on
my list of priorities. We did not evolve as sentient life forms over
billions of years, solely for the purpose of mass suicide. The
purpose of life is the expansion of consciousness. Therefore, our
ultimate purpose is the expansion of consciousness. When a lifeform
reaches such a point that it is capable of self reflection and
therefore self change, it is then that the planetary evolution
likewise reaches a point where it can accelerate its' own evolution
through that life form.



Like all life we are extensions of earth consciousness. Life
enriches that consciousness, (much akin to saying that, “enriched
awareness feeds the Eagle” in CC-speak). Sentient life CAN at
least enrich the earth consciousness by exponential degrees. But it
can't do that through greed, self importance and a thorough lack of
self realization.



You said,


“there is another way to group consciousness and unification in
unconcern...just go look inside im trusting youll find it with
intent.”


By all means elaborate, won't you?
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#38
You make good points IW about the nature of human civilization and what would be a better intent for humans to live in harmony with each other and the earth (I am interpreting some, sorry). I did want to point out that life is not just an extension of earth consciousness....it is an extension of spirit (in which earth consciousness is part)
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#39
That's of course true, DD, at all levels of existence.  Even the earth consciousness is a subset of ever greater fields, such as that of the local star, and then "the local group" of stars and so forth.  Likewise we have subsets of consciousness within us, single cells, tissues, organs, systems. 
Some would call "the Spirit", "God", but that word has been grossly misused, and can be misleading as you no doubt realize. 
One point to make here is that, "the group mind principle" (natural law) extends to all levels and orders of magnitude.  Were we to make conscious use of that Law, it has the potential to transform world human consciousness by degrees both great and small.
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#40
my friend, Intent is the most dangerous thing for mental health next to LSD-25....

sorcery is futile =)))
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#41
SSilhouette wrote:Can anyone help me out. I've got some heavy intent aimed at me, as usual, to destroy and defeat. I'm wondering if any of you have had any dreams concerning me of late or are getting any immediate impressions? Don't want to derail this topic but need some quick input. Hope all have been well.

Silhouette
A warrior goes to knowledge like he goes to war..or to cut it short, stop moaning and act like a warrior. Any advice you´ll get from here will make no difference, a single impeccable stand will
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#42
That's what I'm sort of worried about. Not that I don't have enough ammo. But that I may have too much.
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#43
SSilhouette wrote:That's what I'm sort of worried about. Not that I don't have enough ammo. But that I may have too much.
Stop worrying and just regard yourself as an agent of spirit like Don Juan&Co did might be the way.. A sorcerer acts, S/he´s a being of instant energy action while worrying is an act of self-pity and indulgence.
There´s a steelbar of intent supporting any impeccable warrior put in place by the ancient sorcerers, use it. The power is enormous and sort of merged with the Eagles commands.
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#44
Greetings, Shamanka,
hi there IW.
Yes, need. It is exactly as the post said; "it is our need to combine our intentions with others, especially on a spiritual basis.”
I didn't say the planet necessarily needed something from us, I said it is OUR NEED, as a species, as human beings. Thus the statement, “Group mind action via spiritual intention, has such power that it could indeed transform the world and save mankind.”
Maybe its the 'urge to need' that stops it from happening..and maybe, you have no idea what intention is required to transform the world. just maybe its all the intentions of all the humans that have caused this in the first place,which is what has created all the skimmings and complex layers of consciousness, which of course, maybe, its what they (humanity as a whole) are here to learn...its no good pulling on humanities heart strings (or mine for that matter)...and why save humanity the way it is?..they havent even got that unconditional love is unconcern yet.....
There is no question that humanity now stands on the very brink of self destruction. This doesn't have to be the case.
you are right it doesnt, but then thats a choice for humanity in their folly of free will isnt it?
The primary reason that our species is in such a condition is because of the wrong use of intention, both individually and collectively.the nagual doesnt give a **** about the creative limitless playground which is the planet earth....to the quantum ..its all being expressed..its all good.
 The degradation of the human condition is one that has compounded wrong intent over the course of many millennia, and particularly, over the last several centuries. Greed, the assumption that whatever we want to believe is more important than the facts, (arrogance)
isnt you're belief an assumption too? the facts are this is indeed a playground and all on it are part of a play....there are no facts..only perception.
social “status” and blind competition are examples of such wrong intent. Mutual cooperation, clarity, truth above all else, love, self realization and respect for nature/natural laws are examples of right intention. Were we to engage such right intention with spiritual purpose, it could at least preserve a portion of humankind for the sake of a far more enlightened era.define love and we will see if its the same definition for every other individual facet of the whole....refer to unconditional love perception above....I'm not familiar with the term “unconcern”. Is that anything like not caring?
maybe this is the crux of it. too concerned to align with a bigger more simple intent??...
And no, “exiting the planet for it's benefit” is not high on my list of priorities.why not? are you really that important?..got to thinking several times it might be better off without me on it..
 We did not evolve as sentient life forms over billions of years, solely for the purpose of mass suicide.i was just talking about you....not the masses...hehehehe (dont take it personally its a little humour)
 The purpose of life is the expansion of consciousness.
ahhh is it? and how did you come up with this conclusion?
Therefore, our ultimate purpose is the expansion of consciousness.
ohh..see above....
When a lifeform reaches such a point that it is capable of self reflection and therefore self change, it is then that the planetary evolution likewise reaches a point where it can accelerate its' own evolution through that life form.you have a self? define it please....
Like all life we are extensions of earth consciousness.
define this too please..
Life enriches that consciousness, (much akin to saying that, “enriched awareness feeds the Eagle” in CC-speak).well maybe life isnt enriching it at all...maybe thats why the eaglke spits out the ****???
 Sentient life CAN at least enrich the earth consciousness by exponential degrees. But it can't do that through greed, self importance and a thorough lack of self realization.im sure they are just as valid to the nagual/quantum as anything else is....
You said,
“there is another way to group consciousness and unification in unconcern...just go look inside im trusting youll find it with intent.”
By all means elaborate, won't you?
allow IW...just let go and allow..that intent has already been placed for you..all you have to do ...is stand in its way ....and be willing to receive...
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#45
Shamanka, you said;

“there are no
facts..only perception “


This statement is
nonsensical because it is self contradictory. It stands in the way
of real discussion. So before addressing anything else you said,
this has to first be cleared up.


By presenting even one fact, (as an
example) the phrase, “there are no facts” is proven false.


[I will present three...1) That our
blood is composed mostly of water. 2) That earthly plants require
light to grow. 3) That human beings have intent, awareness and
energy.]


If the phrase, “there are no facts”
is true, then it must be considered a fact. If there are no facts,
then once again the statement is proven false, by virtue of it's own
premise..


Either way, such a statement is
nonsense. As for “only perception” that sounds like a license to
simply believe whatever pleases us, to not take responsibility for
anything, even if that means drinking a gallon of arsenic just for
kicks, and then expecting that to not have any real consequences.


If there are no facts, then there is no
such thing as truth, nor is there such a thing as a lie. Likewise,
there is no such thing as logic, all experimentation is rendered
impossible, all wars are justified, as are all actions no matter how
destructive, since nothing is true or false, and therefore nothing
matters.

If there are no facts, then there is no
such thing as natural laws, science, evidence, sanity or technology,
only faith, randomness and arbitrary belief.


Lastly, if there are no facts, then
everything you said above must be considered a fiction.

It is difficult to take seriously
anyone who implies that their own statements are just fictional, or
“made up”. But then, perhaps you don't really mean what you say,
and do not expect to be taken seriously.
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#46
Castaneda was talking about 'energetic facts'....they are not based on logic or science but on Seeing/Knowing, beyond interpretation. For instance in Seeing in dreaming, intending to reveal energies behind the items of a dream. YOu can intend to see if an object or dream character is a projection or an 'energy-generating' item. Once you See it is an energy-generating, you Know, it is still part of subjective experience and you could refine your way to see or translate but the energetic fact has been established.
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#47
IW, i remain unconcerned by whether you take me seriously or not, however it was interesting that you derailed your own topic for my benefit by deflecting on one sentance. i wont assume you can/cannot pick apart the rest of my post. however as Fabs was suggesting i was talking about energetic perception rather than the alternate tonal 'reality'.

it still stands however that i have and do experience group consciousness every day on all levels with people who live here on the planet...whether we are 'human' or not, depends on your definition of such.

for someone on a nagual forum who is so against discussion of such a lifestyle/philosophy and experiences in alignment with such, it begs the question of "what is your intent being here?"

id appreciate it if you didnt avoid this one question. im sure the forum members would like to know it too.

thanks
shamanka a fictional morph who can type..
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#48
My intent here, (as
elsewhere) is to outline various benefits of certain principles of
truth. Many years of experience demonstrate to the practitioner,
revelations of extremely significant value, to say the least. Such
knowledge has saved civilizations, even worlds... it is the very root
of life and wise living. This knowledge has been called, “the
science of sciences” and it is conveyed here so that others may
gain such benefits that I and others have received. “Consciousness”
is it's name, and its' expansion is fundamental to all true progress.


The reason consciousness
is fundamental to all true progress is because it is the basis of
life, including every human life. In meditation and similar
practices where a state of “no-thought” prevails, certain truths
about the self may be readily Seen. Those who engage meditation soon
realize that we do not, “lose ourselves” when the mind is no
longer dominated by strings of words. This is because we are not
thought...thoughts are things that we DO not things that we ARE. On
the contrary, we consciously regain focus upon the true self which
underlies them....consciousness itself. That consciousness has three
fundamental components, which are; intent, awareness and energy, and
in that order of importance. All three of these components of the
true self, (aka “soul”) can be readily verified by any person who
earnestly seeks to know themselves.


Our energy, or “chi”,
(aka “prana”, “ki”, “orgone”, “sub-atomic energy”,
etc) is the animating essence for all our actions, just as it is for
all living things. This chi is focused in accordance with our
awareness. Awareness is like a magnetic field that coordinates iron
filings, (chi) into a cohesive pattern. It clarifies and gives order
to the fields of chi-energy which surround us. Intent gives
awareness its' parameters of focus...it is the manifesting source of
all our actions, the very essence of decision-making and change.


So in answer to your
question about how the self is defined;


Intent, awareness and
energy are the irreducible essence of the true self, not thought,
emotion, memory, culture or any other learned behavior. These three
are the essence of the consciousness that we are, and which all other
life likewise IS. It is precisely because of this common essence,
which we share with each other and all life, that we are capable of
knowing other peoples' thoughts, feelings and intentions. This
commonality of SOURCE stands behind the truth of the statement “we
are all one”. From this truth springs our ability to
intimately know nature, natural laws and all living creatures. It is
from the consciousness that we are which allows us, “mystical”,
gnostic and direct perception into truth, that which is called “God”
and the core of the soul/true self. Einsteins' unified field is in
fact consciousness. To
expand consciousness is to elevate all aspects of the self and
society in general. If we have any hope as a species to outlive our
own uncontrolled folly, it will not be through political, social or
religious measures, it will be through that expansion of the true
self.


You
asked me how I know that, “the purpose of life is the expansion of
consciousness”. “All of the above” is the brief answer to that
question. In short, this truth can be “cognized”, or “Seen”
by anyone who looks deeply into themselves and into the nature of
reality. Life is based on consciousness. In fact, life also
arises at the behest of consciousness, or in other words, “at the
behest of the intent at large”. That which is called “God” is
on-going in its' “creation”, and so too are the processes of
evolution. As life evolves it's consciousness expands, which is to
say, “becomes more sophisticated and capable of higher states and
actions”. Likewise, when consciousness expands, it accelerates the
further evolution of physical and energetic forms.

Contrary
to popular opinion, “creation” and “evolution” are therefore
complimentary forces.



It
is interesting to note, however, that the majority of human
beings DO NOT See, simply because they don't look.
They don't look, because they don't want to know.
They don't want to know because of the fear that what will be
revealed is contrary to their cherished notions of self and reality.
Such notions are usually little more than the product of cultural and
historical folly.
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#49
Intentwielder wrote:
My intent here, (as
elsewhere) is to outline various benefits of certain principles of
truth. Many years of experience demonstrate to the practitioner,
revelations of extremely significant value, to say the least. Such
knowledge has saved civilizations, even worlds... it is the very root
of life and wise living. This knowledge has been called, “the
science of sciences” and it is conveyed here so that others may
gain such benefits that I and others have received. “Consciousness”
is it's name, and its' expansion is fundamental to all true progress.


The reason consciousness
is fundamental to all true progress is because it is the basis of
life, including every human life. In meditation and similar
practices where a state of “no-thought” prevails, certain truths
about the self may be readily Seen. Those who engage meditation soon
realize that we do not, “lose ourselves” when the mind is no
longer dominated by strings of words. This is because we are not
thought...thoughts are things that we DO not things that we ARE. On
the contrary, we consciously regain focus upon the true self which
underlies them....consciousness itself. That consciousness has three
fundamental components, which are; intent, awareness and energy, and
in that order of importance. All three of these components of the
true self, (aka “soul”) can be readily verified by any person who
earnestly seeks to know themselves.


Our energy, or “chi”,
(aka “prana”, “ki”, “orgone”, “sub-atomic energy”,
etc) is the animating essence for all our actions, just as it is for
all living things. This chi is focused in accordance with our
awareness. Awareness is like a magnetic field that coordinates iron
filings, (chi) into a cohesive pattern. It clarifies and gives order
to the fields of chi-energy which surround us. Intent gives
awareness its' parameters of focus...it is the manifesting source of
all our actions, the very essence of decision-making and change.


So in answer to your
question about how the self is defined;


Intent, awareness and
energy are the irreducible essence of the true self, not thought,
emotion, memory, culture or any other learned behavior. These three
are the essence of the consciousness that we are, and which all other
life likewise IS. It is precisely because of this common essence,
which we share with each other and all life, that we are capable of
knowing other peoples' thoughts, feelings and intentions. This
commonality of SOURCE stands behind the truth of the statement “we
are all one”. From this truth springs our ability to
intimately know nature, natural laws and all living creatures. It is
from the consciousness that we are which allows us, “mystical”,
gnostic and direct perception into truth, that which is called “God”
and the core of the soul/true self. Einsteins' unified field is in
fact consciousness. To
expand consciousness is to elevate all aspects of the self and
society in general. If we have any hope as a species to outlive our
own uncontrolled folly, it will not be through political, social or
religious measures, it will be through that expansion of the true
self.


You
asked me how I know that, “the purpose of life is the expansion of
consciousness”. “All of the above” is the brief answer to that
question. In short, this truth can be “cognized”, or “Seen”
by anyone who looks deeply into themselves and into the nature of
reality. Life is based on consciousness. In fact, life also
arises at the behest of consciousness, or in other words, “at the
behest of the intent at large”. That which is called “God” is
on-going in its' “creation”, and so too are the processes of
evolution. As life evolves it's consciousness expands, which is to
say, “becomes more sophisticated and capable of higher states and
actions”. Likewise, when consciousness expands, it accelerates the
further evolution of physical and energetic forms.

Contrary
to popular opinion, “creation” and “evolution” are therefore
complimentary forces.



It
is interesting to note, however, that the majority of human
beings DO NOT See, simply because they don't look.
They don't look, because they don't want to know.
They don't want to know because of the fear that what will be
revealed is contrary to their cherished notions of self and reality.
Such notions are usually little more than the product of cultural and
historical folly.




















And your point is?
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#50
Some would say that love,
like other feeling-states are “ineffable”, but this is not so.


Love, like pain, joy or
fear, are based upon the same chi-energy which animates all life.
Each of these vibrations has it's own unique range of frequencies,
(feelings) that are brought into existence by a unique range of
intentions.


We may INTEND any of these
vibrations into existence within ourselves, and into “the fields at
large”. It is also within our power to amplify, diminish or cancel
out any such feeling-state at will.


There are many who speak
of “unconditional love” but rarely is the phrase defined.
Unconditional love is implicitly spoken of in the spiritual context.
It is NOT the love of money, narcissistic love, puppy love,
romance-novel love or the love of power over others. Spiritual love
is a feeling-state held for the sake of love itself, for it's own
great and inherent benefit. Unconditional love is spiritual love
held in place by intent, “no matter what” the circumstance and
regardless of ego. It is a love held in place as a matter of CAUSE,
and for the sake of the upliftment it renders. Spiritual love can be
increased by degrees. If this is done through very dynamic
intention, then the states of love that arise, increase very
dynamically as well.


Unconditional love is one
that seeks the ultimate benefit of the recipient(s). It is a high
vibration which heals the physical body, strengthens the energy body
and raises the soul. It can be “cast” upon others at will. When
two or more practitioners “cast” such a state to each other, a
reciprocating field arises of a highly coherent and progressive
nature. When unconditional love is cast between practitioners using
dynamic intentions, the love states they can reach together also
increase very dynamically. This type of psychic reciprocation forms
a group mind of high love that can increase exponentially. This is
especially true between male and female practitioners, due to the
natural law of polarity.


There are two major
considerations involved with “raising” others, (elevating their
consciousness).


Self knowledge,
especially in terms of one's body-wide state, is required.
The term “body-wide state” (“state”) refers to all the
feelings that are in the practitioners' entire body. These must be
known by holding them in one's awareness in subtle detail.
Meditation is particularly useful for accomplishing this. By
knowing your own state, you can also know any other persons' state,
by feeling it.


You can't give
what you don't currently have.
Specifically, you can't send love if you aren't currently in a love
state. The higher, stronger and more energetic the practitioners'
state of love is, the more powerful their raising of others will be.
It is necessary then to cultivate love inside yourself, (intending
it into place by degrees) in order to successfully send it to
others.

Let us say that
practitioner “A” and “B” meet in a private place, for the
purpose of, “raising each other through love”. Both prepare for
this act of power by gaining a meditatively calm and focused
body/mind. Both will likely want to draw and store chi bodywide, so
as to take effective psychic action.



A begins by casting love
to B. B's state is slightly elevated. From this elevated position,
B casts love back to A. A's state is then raised not only by B's
basic intent, but by their own raising intention being re-channeled
back to them. A's raised state is now in an even higher state of
love, which is sent back to B again, with a psychic effect that is
stronger than before. B is raised even further, both by A's
intention and by their own raising intent being sent back to them.
B's state is raised further still, allowing them to raise A with
additional effect. This back and forth reciprocation will, if
pursued with unbending intention, become extremely dynamic and high.
Even ten minutes of progressive, mutually dynamic intention along
these lines, will enable the two to “travel” into very elevated
states of consciousness together. Such “travelers” of
consciousness will note, that certain “:thresholds” of gain
present themselves. If practitioners have sufficient personal power,
they will be able to cross these thresholds, great and small, in
order to gain significant spiritual power. “Power” in this
context is defined simply as, “the ability to take action”. Such
action may include sending love to others or even the entire world as
a whole.


If a third practitioner is
added to this mutual casting of love, the group level of
consciousness is elevated further. A fourth practitioner will
elevate the group vibration much further still, and all according to
the natural law of synergy as follows; “the consciousness of a
group mind is geometrically greater than the sum of its' parts”.


Of course, the basic
requirement for competent group action remains self knowledge, and
the ability to raise ones' own state. These are learned skills
gained by degrees.
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