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CI5 wrote:
If anybody wants to take a hard exercise, it is solely his/her problem. According to Zen-Buddhism (Patriarch)
Why are you monopolizing the forum, talking to yourself under two avatars?
It's a bit unimpeccable, don't you think? Not to mention, it is classic troll behaviour.
At this point, you are acting in the capacity of Agent Smith. Is that your intent? Or are you simply out of control (again)?
Inquiring minds want to know.
(You asked me once awhile back to point out when you are behaving badly. I'm pointing it out.)
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Time is way up
I was called too soft some four years ago never-mind i am not so soft now, sadly and by the way those days will return in some 5000 years when all will be given another chance to act. Not before this world of the nagual has been given plenty of chances and as usual they did s***w them all up i came to announce the end as it was foretold the the fifth or sixth world of the maya will collapse just like the others before it did. That is pretty much it, i bragged i gloated and i am bored with that state by now so i will leave you all into your own misery and intents.
Soon you will see that i am right and your last chance was sometime before the spring equinox kinda when i ripped darling Mmmm to bits cause she did not stop when i asked nicely and so i realised i can act by force if i have too. Have a nice summer might be your last for Mmm as well, there is no way corpses can fix my claw marks they will never heal and the energy will leak out until it is gone faster if she hates me like she obviously does. Have a nice future life like the one you intended for me corpses, and by the way four sun's in the sunset will follow you i don't want those either, nor the young ones cause they are the same matter you are ... inner rot before the outside one. We will meet again, i will be waiting for you don't worry in the same shape to make sure you remember me as what i am this time around at least.
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"...that comprehension of time extending from those with knowledge to those without. Some people i have meet in my dreams have a similar attitude, even when they are told that time is flowing regardless of their doings they keep acting as if a special eternity is available to them. "
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QS: its okay now. allready. corrected.
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FIY
the real accomplishment in the Modern Nagualism is living at two places at once.
i.e. on this Earth somewhere physically and somewhere in the Space or on Earth too, i.e. living both left and right sides at once, friendly bilocation. you can mount it (the left side) anywhere ) otherwise you are only aware of it in dreaming or what ? (QS has wrote book on that btw)
are you aware where it is (your double) when you are not dreaming ? is it somewhere ? is it free flying ? or fixed somewhere ?
according to my best knowledge to the time, it is somewhere even if one is not dreaming
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pure mind is like the empty sky
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impeccability with sincerity is the easiest way
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scout1 wrote:
GL: on the sabertoothed tigers you can ask Songbird, she has met with them in dreaming if you have not met them in your dreaming yet :-) (i guess that you could too because i dont know as to the teeth here :-))
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"Love is the only need" - Carlos Castaneda (Phoenix bookstore lecture)
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Carlos can generate himself good karma still as he departed to Infinity. He has certainly a fair degree of freedom there (he has send me a picture in my waking state not in dreaming, and it was not sinister, only btw. He can dream from there.
I think that his turnings into dogs are not necessarily evil
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That was very nice Songbird to take him by arm.
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CI5 wrote:
QS: its okay now. allready. corrected.Actions speak louder than words.
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This is too much, and i am glad that dissolution into "Nagual" exists, i.e. a real and very effective "little" nirvana.
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"Carola doesn't yet have the Flyer's mind attached. The Flyer's mind is like an octopus. With a dry surface it attaches firmly, and can't be removed. But we're letting a little moisture in there, so there's a little slippage. Carola asks me, 'How many tentacles do I have loose now?' 'Three.' She says, 'Well, if I work really hard maybe I can get another one loose.'
"She doesn't ask for anything. She doesn't complain, she doesn't whine. She doesn't ask for ice cream or chocolate or dolls. She was abandoned as a small child and tells me she knows about loneliness. She says she has enemies, but that's not my concern--she'll take care of them."
- Carlos Castaneda
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FI/FE is in the head, but in the crown head chakra on top of head - the octupus. The clearing of this energy center/chakra is the mechanism of "enlightment", some people seek so much.
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we should speak only about fi/fe - the octopus. i remember coming here originally to tell you that you are food and got farmed on that like that. that is always a very big mistake to deviate from that when one teaches... so octopus, octopus. only. if you will teach, i suggest to teach octopus only, because spirituality sucks terribly.. it is an ideality and then they will eat your soul or brain, and turn you into flyer or what, because of the octopus. and this is this space.
forget Castaneda, forget Buddha, forget everything
OCTOPUS...
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The Matrix is the only correct analogy, the correct template/"myth". Not any deities included. The matrix is reality. Thats the reason CC was not mentioning anything else. Here they eat everything, screwing both body and soul. Predatory universe only, 100 %. Ones own parents/family are the enemies. Thats the reason why spirituality is totally erroneous. Buddha was from a warrior caste with tough a military education, surviving and practicing in the predatory jungle in his ancient yoga quest, and Jesus, guy talking about love, got brutally killed and the bastards have taken him as a dead "god" and put him so for 2000 years. everything octopuses behind what you project as a world view. that was a big mistake to post here buddhism. believe me, buddhism is the Deer Hunter only and you are the deer.
the war is total here. "angels", or rather pseudo-angels, because they are are being screwed and killed too. even the "angel" Don Juan can be still eaten..
refuse. resist.
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Octopus (seventh center)) and FI (foreign installation)/FE(foreign energy) (sixth center) are in the crown sahasrara
thousand-lotus leaf chakra - the mechanism of "enlightment". (The have
screwed Buddha too, not only Jesus, and Castaneda on stained redaction,
they are doing it with everyone..)
CI5: Buddha (in nikaya): This is Hunter... this is buddhism
"That sixth (meaning the seventh) center
of energy," he said, "doesn't quite belong to man. You see, we human
beings are under siege, so to speak. That center has been taken over by
an invader, an unseen predator. And the only way to overcome this
predator is by fortifying all the other centers."
"Isn't it a bit paranoiac to feel that we are under siege, don Juan?" I asked.
"Well,
maybe for you, but certainly not for me," he replied. "I see energy,
and I see that the energy over the center on the top of the head doesn't
fluctuate like the energy of the other centers. It has a back-and-forth
movement, quite disgusting, and quite foreign. I also see that in a
sorcerer who has been capable of vanquishing the mind, which sorcerers
call a foreign installation, the fluctuation of that center has become
exactly like the fluctuation of all the others."
CI5: so stop to be the hunted deer here please.
CI5:
the Martial arts are of Indian origin as well, the founder of Zen has
brought them to China from India, together with Zazen.
CI5: in
principle, it is clearing head energy center out of foreing energy. via
strong physical body training and meditation simultaneously. Buddhas
meditation, or the most effient and strongest meditation is a position
called in japanese "zazen". But it is of Indian origin, and it is Buddha
s position to meditate. otherwise, it is 24 hours a day awareness,
alertness, presence, and discipline.
CI5: fortifying other centers is
simply a very strong physical body. (it is not tensegrity). and, sharp
meditation (alertness/presence) 24 hours a day added to that, or you are
a deer.
CI5: yes it is "Deer Hunter" in ancient pali. those deer are
still undisciplined and especially "non-meditating" people, including
sorcerers. it was a top secret topic, and now, we are happy to know what
is buddhism.
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Octopus is pathetic, a home-pest. The actual entrapment, what is eating the soul (energy body) is the entrapment of energy body (soul), somewhere. And thats a real problem.KLR feels the fear because of that, and they have got KLRs mother, and they are doing it with with everyone, hence the warrior of a soul. Everybody is in the same situation. Hence "sorcery"/nagualism is natural. Matrix (its inspired by
http://www.consciencia.or...da/castaneda-matrix.html ). Reality.
The labyrinth I've seen in dreaming as a child. I know it to be a network of a body of which the scouts/flyers ascend from, snag victims and then descend back to to wrap them up in a silky cocoon, suck dry of will and insert their own agenda. Then these victims are set loose as new flyers with the same singular purpose.
I've recently witnessed the flyers' presence in people via agitation that I was causing them purposefully via stalking the antithesis of their intent. Until then, I'd only imagined how they would look in other people, infested. Before they only appeared to me as shrouds of gray overlaying people's normal state of brightness. I actually saw them squirming recently.
Flyers world aka matrix
http://www.youtube.com/wa...9tmt7GVYM&feature=relmfu
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Pidgeon: It is Reality. The explanation for your contradiction is that our Space, and especially our human world is Matrix, it is so, it is this plane, this Universe (loka, i.e. kama-loka) is predatory 100 %. This is confirmed by both Buddha and Don Juan. Hence the boddhisattva/warrior must be operational in the Matrix here. There is no contradiction in Don Juan teachings and Buddhism on this interface. Hence ruthlesness (nagual principle) and compassion (buddhist compassion means "effective help") meet together in one single point here. There is no contradiction into that. Do not be stupid and free yourself fully (recapitulation, it is also in Patanjali Yogasutra system, not "toltec" only). You are all here at 20%-50% range level of your potential. You have the awareness lifted above the knees (from the toes). You need recapitulation. see yoga/nagual descriptions for that. As the coat of awaress will go into full 100 % regrowth, then you will be Buddha (pratyeka-buddha), until it is not, you are still warrior/boddhisattva.
Flyers world aka matrix - notice it
http://www.youtube.com/wa...9tmt7GVYM&feature=relmfu
Octopus is pathetic, a home-pest. The actual entrapment, what is eating the soul (energy body) is the entrapment of energy body (soul), somewhere. And thats a real problem.KLR feels the fear because of that, and they have got KLRs mother, and they are doing it with with everyone, hence the warrior of a soul. Everybody is in the same situation. Hence "sorcery"/nagualism is natural. Matrix (its inspired by
http://www.consciencia.or...da/castaneda-matrix.html ). Reality.
The labyrinth I've seen in dreaming as a child. I know it to be a network of a body of which the scouts/flyers ascend from, snag victims and then descend back to to wrap them up in a silky cocoon, suck dry of will and insert their own agenda. Then these victims are set loose as new flyers with the same singular purpose.
I've recently witnessed the flyers' presence in people via agitation that I was causing them purposefully via stalking the antithesis of their intent. Until then, I'd only imagined how they would look in other people, infested. Before they only appeared to me as shrouds of gray overlaying people's normal state of brightness. I actually saw them squirming recently.
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The triloka navigation is interesting, i was thinking about that many years ago. It is perfectly possible to get anywhere and see anything, but that requires a really tough yoga(patanjali)/zazen practice. notice that it is possible to get in dreaming there, it is not Unknowable via dreaming, rupa-dhatu level is accessible via dreaming. the Unknowable (one gets killed) is a term for moving AP/seeing emanations in physical body. it must be accesible via dreaming/energy body, as it is a definition of transference (next to that it is widely recorded) When we are speaking about Gateways of death, it is so manifested in the definitive journeys of every human being thru intermediate state (antarabhava, bardo). Eagle field smashes the luminous sphere, sucks up consc. and the energy body travels to actual gateways, e.g. gateways of hell, or it is transformed in the gateways. It is the energy body-soul, what is entering the gateway or cons. field of existence.
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It is clear that energy body/soul is a vehicle of travel, of transference, of "rebirth" - it is pretty obvious how the idea of "reincarnation" is misleading, as it is exactly the energy body/soul transfer/travel, the migration of energy bodies (soul), the transmigration.
hence the critical idea to take care of ones soul (the meaning of nagualism), or even taking the journey (leap to infinity), the dream of sorcerers (naguals), what is a pure adventure, the ultimate cosmic trip, not a matter of greed, but freedom ,)) I strongly advocate for that, pro-freedom, pro-adventure.
Why i have been posting here ? Just to clarify this issue. I have met Los Nuevos lineage 10 years ago.
Now i understand that energy body/soul is the issue here. The soul is the issue. (i admit that i should do it immediately here, or rather i should do it that 10+ years ago, but **** happens)
To take the adventure (what is granted by God/Eagle anyway), cosmic trip into third attention (completion of energy), or to complete energy body/soul at least (that means to not lost the soul) and make it to heavens gates, this is clearly possible, so in the case that ones physical body dies after a good life, the energy body/soul makes it to heavens, and the party/fun continues. So no worries.
This a well known option. The journey of energy body/soul, in the death, the definitive journey is the same for everybody in the end of life of every human being. The gateway of heaven is viewed literary as one is taking a dream travel, death is like a dream travel (up to 49 earth days), hence the gateway of heaven is viewed as one is entering heavens as like in the dream, getting it there. or buddhist phowa to rupa-dhatu. this is well known to, the buddhist monks make it to rupa-dhatu levels with their energy bodies (anagami) in the death. and the third option is the total unbinding/nirvana (into the Clear light of the absolute basis of Universe), dissolution.
HENCE the idea of taking care of ones soul, to do "navigation" as one is still alive, is absolutely critical. And this is "sorcery/nagualism", this is the idea that CC has proposed, although in phenomenological manner, and in frame of the nagual myth of toltec total freedom. Its clear since 2004, and as of today, as of 2012, its a global shift in nagualism toward propagation of new seers lineages, what is our true human potential.
The partial opinions on reality are dangerous..
Nihilism is bad The modern materialistic scepticism or spiritual materialism (new age) are bad, or ok, as God doesnt care, bad conduct is bad (hungry ghosts, animal, demons, naraka/state of paranoia energy body travel).
It is not true that this soul/energy body is not explicit in buddhism or yoga (its puggala, antarabhava, panca-kosha etc.), it is just badly expressed.
The problem is to disregard energy body - soul. This is the big mistake. Otherwise all the navigation is natural.
So i suggest, to travel into heavens direction as still alive in the navigation. it is possible still alive, and when the **** happens (as the third attention burning is not easy), just take the course to heavens direction.
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THE CONCLUSIONS
1) On modern nagualism
"Nagualism"/Navigation or the new seers, it is all natural, it is human potential. it is not true that it is artificial (up the second gate of dreaming), then if you do the full recapitulation, it is profound, not like the way of completion of energy body thru inorganic dreaming, it is total difference, because inorganic dreaming does not lead to third attention - or to put it more explicit: without recapitulation this is completely baseless, if you do not do recapitulation, it is all pointless, the whole issue, it is only sorcery then, primitive. The fact is that one cant get past 3rd gate of dreaming withou recap, seeing the physical body and then moving the physical body from inner silence, i.e. jumping and moving AP, without full recapitulation any idea of continuation/fire from within is pointless, and this is asking only for a serious problem in the death (doing dreaming/second attention without recapitulation (whats the problem of majority of folks).
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