Re: Honour and recapitulation..

[rosygyro]

Wait no not that one or the other one..
they were the dumped by girlfriend ones at the same time as the broken bone.
this one was the circle dance

[rosygyro]

hmmm

a leopard whose upper body part has been hacked away: http://cdn.campaignbrief.com/asia/asset ... 172196.jpg

A girl with two heads: http://img.xiacheba.com/img/image.uczzd ... 413454.jpg

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[watergaze]

[watergaze]

You know...just to lighten things up in hell a little bit

[rosygyro]

The first few times i went into forest nature "behind the scenes" i was shot by the sharpshooters,
I then spent the next few years stalking the sharpshooters by not shooting anything.
so i would be there sitting in a forest with the nerve endings of anybody on earth at my fingertips in the vines and dirt beneath my touch.
And i would be still..

one day i found not human mortality but a sorcerer from ancient times,.
in this case the sorcerer was once a forked tree(tonal).. but had died in a crush of ivy (sorceric body)  and what remained was a ghost tree (limbo soul( held in place by an ivy exoskeleton (sorceric body,)
The soul itself of this dead sorcerer was crying out to be released from the ivy that bound it in the shape of a fork..
and so i lit a fire in the y of the tree shaped ivy and tied ropes to its branches and dragged it over. summer solstice 2005.

[rosygyro]

j

naked woman whose body has been cut open autopsy style (yincision): http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/WLwnWanrcVs/mqdefault.jpg



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[Pixie Dust]

There was once a young man
Who gave his entire heart
He submitted to nature
From the early start
He spent his life
Loving those near.

Such a courageous life
Decades spent on doing
What was RIGHT.
With his gift of sight
He earned his place
At the round table
Of the righteous.

There was another young man
Who chose a very different path.
He never learned how to love
They way the other man
Fought to love.
The consequence of doing wrong
Is not a price many willingly pay
The angels do not punish
They just don't open
The gate.

Our Father,
who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come;
thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
Amen.

[Pixie Dust]

[Pixie Dust]

[rosygyro]

[rosygyro]

[rosygyro]

[Pixie Dust]

Only those who know the alphabet can make a sandwich.

Only those who eat the pie know the recipe.

Only those who kiss the ring know how to use their tongue.

Only those who are in cohesive groups get to use the Emerald tablet.

Only those who fail their entrance exams know true sorrow.

Only those who do not seek power are the ones who receive it.

Only the great get the banana.

(edit by watergaze: merged many short posts into one)

[rosygyro]

[rosygyro]

Ok .. if you havent got direct pathwork with forebearance with which you have accumulated a level of raw aquiescence to the void today.. (presuming this is the problem)
then there is the chance that you can use triangulation around the pivot of the three rings using recapitulation and augment your totality to give a real perception of the same threshold in the present.
ultimatly it is better if your pathwork cultivates forebearance over time as it cannot be removed from your energetic history , wheras the using of totality to triangulate the pivot of the three rings in the retrospective is very much an act of present will.

[watergaze]

i sometimes wonder if the refusal on this forum to talk in the terms of MEST and the toltec lexicon is part of the injunction to use the terms,
there was great ceremony by theun mares when he declared he had been given universal permission to write the toltec legacy.

so we have an awquard situation.
1) i am writing the terms- but they seem to be ignored as being the ilegitimate writing of terms without universal injunction or knowledge behind them.
2) on this forum people are writing without the proper use of terms but implying with their energy that what they are saying is somehow as full of knowledge as if they were using the terms.

I find it very suspect..
and think that if you have the knowledge you should use the terms.
if you dont have the knowledge you should try to use the terms.

The terms themselves are very specific..

[Pixie Dust]

I don't bother with it because it overcomplicates the purpose of communication.

You should continue to use it if it suits you. Maybe people would respond to you if you weren't often posting sexual images. That habit makes you seem creepy.

[glance left]

So, we've covered sh.it-holes and h.ell-holes lol.  I got a first hand view of the potential h.ell waiting, I'm presuming, if indulgence/obstinacy are given into wholesale.  Not the most sophisticated source of motivation, but effective nonetheless

Anyways, with respect to "fixing the spirit" and the decisions to do so...looking at my own situation, it seems that some decisions are to be made deliberately and then followed through on over extended periods of time....like the decision to become perennially silent and aware.....or the decision to progressively let go of a particularly bad habits....or the decision to follow the warrior's way.  Other decisions must be made on the fly, in the instant as unique problems arise in the course of day to day activity. 
 
With respect to the first variety, I remember a dream with Carlos Castaneda years ago in which I was with him at some social event at someone's house in So Cal.  I was a silent observer, at this point, simply following and watching him interact with others at the party....in amazement at his grace and fluidity....the magical manifestation of his inner intent as he wove in and out of transient conversations at the party.  Later, after the party was over, we had been invited to stay the night and slept in a guest room upstairs in the host's house. Both of us had our respective single beds, each with a set of dual overhead lamps which had a dial switch to turn on/off the lights in various combinations for both beds. CC was going to sleep next to me in his bed, with his back turned to me.  I was trying to figure out how to turn out the lights, turning the dial switch over and over which would switch the electrical current form one light to the next in varying combinations, but never turning them all off together.  Classic dream issue in which electrical things don't work quite right   After mucking around with the lights for a period of time, CC threw his covers off, sat up and looked at me saying "What the hell are you doing!!?"  I apologized and told him about the problem with the lights.  He looked annoyed and give me a look which said, "Well, figure it out and be done with it"  Before he lay back down, I wanted to ask him a question...."Nagual....one quick question before you go to sleep".  He turned and said, still somewhat annoyed, "Yes, what is it".  I asked him, "How do you deal with bad habits.....you know, the REALLY bad habits that seem almost impossible to break?"  He looked down to the floor for a second....I though he was almost falling asleep.  Then his head snapped up and he looked at me with preternaturally large eyes....almost as big as saucers....and said in a loud, commanding voice "GEIST!!"  And then he promptly rolled over and went to sleep, at which point
the dream faded.
 
 
Upon awakening, I had no idea what the term "geist" meant.  I knew it was a German term, but that was about it.  This was back in '02-'03....before the internet was such an ubiquitous resource of information.  I went down to the local book store a few blocks away from our apartment and looked it up in a german-american dictionary, I found out that the meaning is complex.  It means "spirit" or "ghost"....but also means "spirit/mind....ingenuity....intelligence/motivation/inspiration".   With respect to my question to CC, the meaning became clear.  Those problems/habits which block progression along the "warrior's way" require persistence, creativity, inspiration, perennial alignment with the spirit of intelligent solutions/inspirational approaches.  For those of us on the warrior's way who are "hard cases"....who have recalcitrant issues which create seemingly lifelong problems.....this is the way to freedom.  In the Bible, it talks about being "wise and serpents and innocent as doves".  This is GEIST.....the active combination of the "white dove" and the "black crow"....of the combination of the resources of "skillful means" and "innate wisdom" from the Dzogchen tradition of Buddhism.  Its a lifetime process, I'm finding out the hard way.  But, seeing that GEIST active and in motion, slowly unraveling the seemingly impossible snarls of my many faults/weaknesses....is a pure pleasure

[rosygyro]

for me moving the assemblage pointisnt like tuning in a radio dial.
for me it is the walking forward while seeing myself from leftside awarness in MEST
and augmenting the speed different portions of my energy move relative to the front plate.
once i have a trajectory i look for the void created by activating creative energy and throw my assemblage point there.. intending to catch the east west drift.

[glance left]

Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. 

I can't figure out if you're offering a better way of approaching learning the shift, apart from progressively "tuning" as you say (yeah, that's exactly how I approach it sitting in silence gazing or when laying back down to go to sleep while trying to hold onto awareness as the dreaming attention is tuned in upon)......or if, because you've been naturally able to shift to the left all your life, you can't lend perspective to those who've been fixed for most of their lives....those who can't see any other way apart from the progressive "tuning in" as you say.

[glance left]

Oh wait...something coming in about the parallel perspective, from that perspective the trajectory (east/west) through the void potential, is the spear of destiny that you talk about, maybe.

IDK, it's too fleeting right now....glimmers of inspiration, but are kind of theoretical only.  So, the tendency is to resort back to the tuning method, which feels like it's gonna take forever.

[glance left]

LOL....I'm amazed by my own conceit.  The debate.....it's ridiculous.  I'm watching the tuning process during gazing meditation session this morning.  I'm not tuning anything.....I'm not doing anything.  Whatever is being tuned into is tuning into itself.  All of this is being played out on its own.  All I can do is relinquish.....and observe.

[rosygyro]

glance left wrote:
Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. 

I can't figure out if you're offering a better way of approaching learning the shift, apart from progressively "tuning" as you say (yeah, that's exactly how I approach it sitting in silence gazing or when laying back down to go to sleep while trying to hold onto awareness as the dreaming attention is tuned in upon)......or if, because you've been naturally able to shift to the left all your life, you can't lend perspective to those who've been fixed for most of their lives....those who can't see any other way apart from the progressive "tuning in" as you say.




it is specific to using recapitulation as part of the alignment.

for instance..
1)If i have a fear of water..
2) i have a fear of dogs.


I go on a boat and become afraid . try to move my assemblage point to a point beyond fear using will.
The recapitulation point is marooned farside of a personal history event somewhere in my past that caused fear of water.

I get approached by a pack of dogs, I try to move my assemblage point beyond fear using will.
the recapitulation point is marooned farside of a personal history event somewhere in my past that caused fear of dogs.

because these two movements of the assemblage point have different relative positions along the timeline of my social conditioning, the fear is that a multiplicity of such moves for a hundred different micro fears.. would cause me to detatch from my fear.. but without ever recapitulating or tackling the personal history.

Wheras leftside awareness. recapitulation as a form , potential energy etc.. is ruthless with the self. in that wanting to move your assemblage beyond fear is not a valid use of intent.
The valid use of intent is to deal with the personal history in the totality and to clear the recapitulation channel..
and to hell with avoiding the fear of dogs and water.

LOOK. it isnt convenient to set you assemblage up the way i do... because it does make you unable to avoid your fears.

i don't much care wether you are stalking or not.. but a split does exist between those who willfully move their assemblage
and those who do not deviate from a  timed assemblage trajectory.

[rosygyro]

the timed assemblage trajectory is not a result of personal power
it is a result of alignment.
for this reason it is entirely possible for it to be a giftable assemblage position.

I am still ironing out a few of the glitches...
as invariably it is still quite ideosyncratic to myself and there is often great confusion
when i cross swords with another.

[rosygyro]