Dark energy

[grandspeculator]

You are fine Delawaredan. I call aberrated-tonals to the ones lacking sobriety. You enjoy yourself. We do just fine.

[Blue totem]

I dont think we waste energy.




The Tibertans have a long tradition of spiritual debating.




In the end, Spec is concerned with spiritual growth, so am I.

[grandspeculator]

Blue totem wrote:

I dont think we waste energy.




The Tibertans have a long tradition of spiritual debating.




In the end, Spec is concerned with spiritual growth, so am I.
Traditional debate, for learning purposes, is a valid form of exchange.




Most of the forum debates are just craziness. I personally don't like to debate at all, but for Blue I'll make an exception.

[Blue totem]

Now I feel welcome.

[delawaredan]

Just to let you both know, I really meant to say that I gather the spiritual energy you share through the exchange. It is not a waste at all, especially
since I benefit.

[grandspeculator]

Enjoy!

[iiop]

if i'm not incorrect, the purpose of reliving these events is not simply to have the experience again, but to obtain a third point of reference that
doesn't identify with the 'here or there' of the experience. this point of reference is one that is dynamic according to the past and future that
are present surrounding the moment. in doing this process one unveils the underlying energy of a situation, by recognizing this we are able to move further
into altered perceptions, or move the assemblage point, 2nd attention, etc.

[grandspeculator]

iiop wrote:

if i'm not incorrect, the purpose of reliving these events is not simply to have the experience again, but to obtain a third point of reference that
doesn't identify with the 'here or there' of the experience. this point of reference is one that is dynamic according to the past and future that
are present surrounding the moment. in doing this process one unveils the underlying energy of a situation, by recognizing this we are able to move further
into altered perceptions, or move the assemblage point, 2nd attention, etc.
Perhaps Iiop, but the basic objective is simply freeing energy, gaining power-of-awareness and freeing oneself of the pains of the past that
condition us.

[iiop]

i agree. in fact, don juan said somewhere that there is a secret option to the recapitulation, as there is a secret option to death, that only sorcerers take.
this is to enhance one's true mind. everybody should do it.

[grandspeculator]

iiop wrote:

i agree. in fact, don juan said somewhere that there is a secret option to the recapitulation, as there is a secret option to death, that only sorcerers
take. this is to enhance one's true mind. everybody should do it.
If I remember correctly that option is to burn with the fire from within. Since the Eagle only wants to
feed of our awareness/experiences, we can avoid being eaten by means of extensive recapitulation and reaching the
totality of ourselves.




That, coupled with a life-time of impeccability, gives us the possibility of dodging the Eagle.

[Blue totem]

The real secret to dodging the eagle, is to have bird seed on you the day you die.




When the eagle sees the seed, it can feed without eating you.




That is the crown jewel of the sorcerers knowledge.






-Don Juan, from ''The Wheel of Time.''

[grandspeculator]

Blue totem wrote:



The real secret to dodging the eagle, is to have bird seed on you the day you die.




When the eagle sees the seed, it can feed without eating you.




That is the crown jewel of the sorcerers knowledge.






-Don Juan, from ''The Wheel of Time.''
You try that and see how it works.

[Mornings Son]

if i'm not incorrect, the purpose of reliving these events is not simply to have the experience again, but to obtain a third point of reference that
doesn't identify with the 'here or there' of the experience. this point of reference is one that is dynamic according to the past and future that
are present surrounding the moment. in doing this process one unveils the underlying energy of a situation, by recognizing this we are able to move further
into altered perceptions, or move the assemblage point, 2nd attention, etc.
This too is my experience. It gives a new 'life story' or different level of what was going on that can be used to gain power of of.




Recap is used by me like this:


Review what really happened and what I felt and then made it mean. Then dig out what decisions I made about myself, the other(s) and whatever more there was
involved. (most of this is not observed consciously when it happens.. Well at least not until you have a certain level of power and awarness)


Then its possible to release the bound energy - by decision and to form a different meaning to it.

[Guest]