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I've been unkind to you in dreaming because you've been inappropriate to me in dreaming. It will become worse if youre unable to exercise some consideration and self-control there.
Am I a one-trick pony? Unable to do more than dream?
Perhaps.
I like how you compare dinner with you to sitting down with Jack the Ripper...the serial killer with an appetite for prostitutes. Yet you see that as a safe environment. I believe we assess the safety of that scenario differently.
What you fail to understand in my refusal to meet you is your mindset is dangerous. Youre focused on conquering and not cooperation, meaning your interest is solely on your own agenda. I have no say.
Add to that your vengeful ugliness when interacting with those you don't like and then your attack on me by saying I'm small minded because I don't want to meet a stranger on the Internet who demonstrates periods of mania. My concern is my safety. If you took effort to cooperate with my interests that would be great! But you don't.
Bottom line is I don't trust you.
A trustworthy individual would see the situation from my perspective and be understanding. Your actions are very revealing. I can see why you feel you'll need more personal power to ensure your survival.
You are nice when people help you attain power. You should be nice regardless of what people do or don't do for you.
Billy is not a nice person and he is scrambling for power to survive. Will he gather it in time?
Tick tock.
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how the damned hell do I respond to this thread?
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Hey G, good to see ya.. i lost your chat address but i remember the name. let me know again will ya?
Billy, I lead a bad example. its great practice to let others be themselves. Without domination. Allowing people to be as they are. The question remain what are people? I don't know.
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Billy, FYI you're violating RF rules by posting info from there into the public forums. I would reference a hyperlink to take you straight to wherever that rule is, but that's too much work for me. Just a heads up. Heed the warning or don't. I would say actions have consequences, but I'm not certain that's true with regard to the forums.
annnnd GO!
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The best ally billy, is one that is free. One that works with you, and you with it, supporting each other..
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Kaomea, I share my misguided predisposition that got fixed. I want you to see it all as it unfolded.
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*** the walls by Kaomea (Dec 18, 2010). "Those who are finding their walls and deciding to say '*** the walls' by overcoming them, what are your experiences... how has it helped you or others... If we're not getting what we want, it's time to break ourselves apart and put us back together. If we're all transitioning, why not talk about it. Hang up your dirty laundry and let's see all the lingerie."
Building and Destroying People by Kaomea (Feb 16, 2014)
"Actions have consequences and eventually one might ask themselves what they're building within their lives.
The people around you, your closest most intimate relationships will reveal what you're building or perhaps destroying. If we're destroying people we're pushing them to their knees, forcing them to grovel for our attention in an insecure way. We neglect their strengths and skills and instead mold them into what we think they should be.
On the other hand if we work with others natural skills and help support them without molding them into our image, but into their own, that is building them..."
Stalking Dependency by Kaomea (Jan 12, 2014)
"..Definition of DEPENDENCE
1: the quality or state of being dependent; especially : the quality or state of being influenced or determined by or subject to another
...Unnecessary dependency leads to weakness. For example, emotional or spiritual dependency creates a horde of zombies as your followers...
Now, don't get wrong. I'm fond of a league of followers just as much as the next Domme. It is fabulous to have people desiring my attention, hanging on my every word, sending waves of loving intent to me. Everyone should know what it feels like to be a God or Goddess (or both!). It's a grand experience.
On the other hand, who wants followers who cannot think for themselves. I sure don't. I want to be adored with free-will, by intelligent individuals.. Not by zombies..."
Manifesting in the Tonal by Kaomea (Dec 26, 2013)
"Ideas manifest in the tonal in a variety of ways. My question is how do you excel the skill of manifesting into the tonal? For example, thoughts are easy enough to transmit and receive. That's not enough though. I want more. Push further. Transition into matter.
The only downfall I see with more substantial exchanges is it truly is a two way street. I want to be able to transmit but that means I must receive. I want to be able to manifest, which means I must destroy. Energy doesn't die, it transfers.
To move beyond affecting the environment into becoming the environment.
I'm asking for techniques, I'll supply the power."
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Kaomea says:
I've been unkind to you in dreaming because you've been inappropriate to me in dreaming. It will become worse if youre unable to exercise some consideration and self-control there.
Am I a one-trick pony? Unable to do more than dream?
Perhaps.
I like how you compare dinner with you to sitting down with Jack the Ripper...the serial killer with an appetite for prostitutes. Yet you see that as a safe environment. I believe we assess the safety of that scenario differently.
What you fail to understand in my refusal to meet you is your mindset is dangerous. You're focused on conquering and not cooperation, meaning your interest is solely on your own agenda. I have no say.
Add to that your vengeful ugliness when interacting with those you don't like and then your attack on me by saying I'm small minded because I don't want to meet a stranger on the Internet who demonstrates periods of mania. My concern is my safety. If you took effort to cooperate with my interests that would be great! But you don't.
Bottom line is I don't trust you.
A trustworthy individual would see the situation from my perspective and be understanding. Your actions are very revealing. I can see why you feel you'll need more personal power to ensure your survival.
You are nice when people help you attain power. You should be nice regardless of what people do or don't do for you.
Billy is not a nice person and he is scrambling for power to survive. Will he gather it in time?
Tick tock.
Billy says:
I don't care how our energies be constituted. Do your job here. Life will get messy for you if you can't block everything else out and make good decisions.
You don't need to suffer. You need to defer to me {or at the very least compromise (but that word is not even in your vocabulary)}.
How is this going to work, Kaomea? I have said right along I am not conventionally attracted to you. You say, you are not attracted to me. You don't trust me.
Nonetheless, I trust myself, which is more than you can say for yourself.
You completely bitched this up by not cutting off my balls when you could. Here we are now, and it's too late for that. It has gotten away from you, and there are no spells, voodoo curses, or rituals for this.
'Unkind' to me? We are kind to each other literally. What can be worse or better than that? Wake up! I don't care who has which personality disorders; all I know is I am stuck with someone whose signature lately is profane and confused. I think you should quit on your coy posturing already. Jack the Ripper was hyperbole with a point, and you knew that.
Hmm. My mindset is dangerous? You are the author of these Art of Stalking threads: *** the walls , Building and Destroying People, Stalking Dependency, Manifesting in the Tonal.. in your exact words: "Every civilization needs sheeple...In Black Magick, You are a GOD!!!"
You tell serloco (proudly as a Domme) that you have left piles of skulls and bodies in your wake, and you identify yourself with the Lana Del Rey's song, "Serial Killer." [hey, I appreciate this]
You tell me, "A trustworthy individual would see the situation from your perspective and be understanding." I am laughing, because this is WAY too much fun!! You are right, that "Billy is not a nice person." But I am nice to the ones I care about, and I care about you, Kaomea. I said I would be nice to you, and every word written here is a compliment to you from my perspective; I enjoy your artform and witchcraft, so enjoy my overt offering.
You say I don't cooperate with your efforts, but I already professed to give you my whole being unconditionally. I vowed to worship, obey, service, and please you. I was insanely HAPPY that you would dispose of me however you wanted like countless other bodies in your sorceristic graveyard. Perhaps you should go back to conquering the easily suggestible child-males you are used to. They have no strength and resources to challenge you to make yours a worthwhile practice.
I could make something incredibly great out of this situation for you, but you want to fight me. I have integrity, and I am happy. As I see it, you might be a bit screwy. You say, "you keep my attention by feeding into my sexuality. Why? Because you plan to transition to a different focus once the timing is appropriate."
Threaten me all you want, but we are inextricably tied. There are many, many ways to *** each other, Kaomea.. I prefer some nice ones.
I kept my car rental open to drive (guessing) twenty + hours one way, and then back, just to have dinner with you. You have time to think about this:
Under the names Kaomea and Billy, make reservations at the most upscale, elegant restaurant anywhere you can get to on Friday, March 15--- at 7:30 PM. Advise them we will want a table for the whole evening. I want a place with white tableclothes, proper glassware for various cocktails and wines, and competent waiters...... not some cowpoke eatery. I don't care if you are fat and sinfully ugly or royally beautiful and conceited, or even transgender. Show up!
[Don't limit yourself > get us to a city where they have a four or five star venue; I will show you the refinement of elevated dining and spiritual communion (If you tell me the city, I can take care of choosing the right one and making reservations)].
If you cannot eat with me, I will not correspond with you until mid-fall, no matter what spells you conjure up.
In no way is this of a threatening nature, but you should worry more what is going to happen to us if we don't meet than if we do. Well, anyway.. you can always gravitate to serloco.. which suits me okay.. and he will tell you.. I would be sincerely happy for both of you (for us). Still, serloco may be a great dancer, but not nearly as good a lover as I am (yes, another of my empirical self-knowings).
I am not going to be signing into this forum (for now).
You need to post a reply here or by e-mail. Make sure you have the name and address of the place we are dining. Plus, confirm the time and date > and tell me you will be there. [I must know by noon, April 12. I reserved a car for April 13]
I won't have your address or phone number, and you already trampled on my hope of gettin' any. You are safe!!!!
It may be hard for you to comprehend, but at this juncture I am doing this for your benefit. Think about this carefully. We both need to stay strong and be loyal to one another. We NEED trust. You are the one scrambling, and you had better slow it down and start making logical inferences. You should hope that I do gather power; IMO, your well being depends on it.
Honestly, I'm not sure why I would come to you face to face, and cultivate trust, and let you be an equal.. excepting that I am good-hearted. You should be aware that I purposefully set my intent to gain separation, and as a result I am losing interest in you. I have a happy and full life without you. Your energies are witnessing that. The scales are tipped, and there is little hope for you without cooperation.
In reconsidering,
There are other options for you, Kaomea. You can wade back into that shithole that is your life. You can try to forget Billy. This is an unsatisfacty bottom. I know this will hurt you very much, because it will mean that you were left abandoned by me.
Another option would be to commnence a regiment of obedience training for you. I mean, I know now how desperate you will become when I totally ignore you. You would willingly submit yourself to anything in exchange for my attention. This seems very realistic, as I often connect you to my beautiful black labrador. I think you would like being my puppy. Goodness will earn you treats, and misbehavior will bring humiliating degradation. How does that sound? That shame could at least be very erotic for ya.
I know you are just beginning to understand what is happening to you. Yes, you are angry, but the reality will set in. I will try to be nice, but you are very weak and needy; it will be difficult for me to respect you without forming a strong agreeable bond. I don't know, maybe you can have sex with me in dreams. A resolution there made things a whole lot better for my wife. I like sex a lot.
No, this is not an April Fool's joke. This is very real.
Tick tock.
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Okay, Kaomea, the last section served as a primer: I want to think you are greater than any female entity in the universe by leaps and bounds. And, are you not? To me you are.
Yet, I have evolved to become much more powerful than you (yes, my own empiricism). I want to get this right, and meeting you is the best way to do that. Please, take the chance to meet me.
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FINALLY!!! HERE IS THE REAL POST!
Kaomea, after reading your response, I became acutely aware of my own power. Not only that, but I obtained to MASSIVE AND ABSOLUTE POWER since. [Thank you Derek (serloco)]
I almost made the mistake of crippling us with the stupidity reflected in the last two posts.
(I then realized I was acting out of insecurity and arrogance)
Kaomea said to Billy:
"****.
Okay, that's unfair. You deserve an actual response.
I'm already proud of you. I'm already impressed by your passion and effort. There's nothing further you need to do besides calm the *** down..."
And, so I have calmed the *** down so that I can get from point A to point B. Aren't I the best stalkee ever?? xD
No amount of words will express the transformation of my thought process and where it stands now; so, suffice it to say I am humbled by my luck to know you without expectations.
I am free of my fears now, because I am consumately strong and powerful. I am recommitting to you 100% so that you will teach me dreaming and your knowledge. I CAN MANIFEST for your benefit as well as my own. I am astonishingly moving my world, Kaomea.
I will focus with consistency, patience and quality timing. Lead the way, have fun again.. I will unconditionally respect and listen to you, Kaomea.
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I have to be honest, I love the part of me that trashed you, Kaomea. I am serious.
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Your last post quoting things from RF has been deleted. You have been removed from Ravenfield due to the rule violation, Kao's warning to you has been a kindness (as I wrote her a pm a few hours ago asking if she gave you permission to quote her, or if you are in violation of RF's privacy rules). The fact that you repeated your behavior even after her warning is unacceptable. I advise you to take a time out, if you continue to break the rules of these forums you will be banned or otherwise restricted from posting.
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"Into the Woods" REUTERS
Chilean authorities seized erotic copies of ‘Little Red Riding Hood’ after they mistakenly made their way into 283 primary schools– An x-rated version of 'Little Red Riding Hood' was accidentally sent to school libraries giving some students an early lesson in the naughtier side... The book’s actual title is ‘Little Red Riding Hood Eats the Wolf.’
Part l) Little Red Riding Hood turns the pages and does eat the wolf.
Part ll) Hmm. The wolf is in her bowels, also known as the seat of pity.
Part lll) Guess, who is turning the pages now?
A Fairytale waiting to be written seems innocent enough to keep me out of trouble. No?
Were you irritable and riled this morning, Red? I feel these things. I know you do understand.
Just a tiny bit of fun for me, Red.
A very long meditation this morning. My wife, Susan, enters my closed, private space twice.. she is an angry person; and, tells me full of her vile, "I don't know how to meditate, my posture is wrong, the candle will set me on fire, you are an ****..." My wife reflects someone else's moods for me.
Can you believe this? Susan, out of nowhere, now has hyperosmia. OMG! Who else has that condition?
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They look pretty comfy in that pic.
We can get comfortable easily enough too. Don't worry, Red; I can adapt to you.
I will give of myself abundantly. I'm loaded with power. I am intending and moving with purpose, and accept full responsibility for whatever happens.
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Okay, Kaomea. We will never eat dinner together, and not ever even meet in the tonal. Inane internet words is the extent of it.
As to dreaming; I am apparently acting inappropriately and so I disqualify myself. Excuse me, I am close to brain dead in that realm.
We have the intangible 'spiritual,' a word I accentuate, because I hate the fucking usage.
So, it comes down lastly to my proposition of shared isolation. You said isolation was best left as isolation.
We each have no want of expectations whatsoever. What is left?
How does NOTHING (as it is) bring fulfillment?
How do I sustain nothing, or do I even have to sustain it at all? Why do we fight over it?
Why is 'nothing' so delicious?
Smiling.
It is very TASTY to share it with you, Kaomea.
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Billy, I am very disappointed in you. Lusty for power and abusive. I was once the same way. It got me hurt and abused in return. Your power and your heart must follow each other. The ones we love we must help and protect, not possess and dominate. There is a time for control and a time for letting things be as they choose to be. I am giving you a friendly warning. I am concerned. I understand the excitement and the pride that comes with success and control. But billy, losing your heart and the ones you love is the price you will pay for being an abusive sorcerer. I have been there myself. What do you think will happen if you activate the powers of abuse and control and give them a place in your life? There are consequences for our actions. The old me would say *** that I control the consequences, but billy, the path you are treading leads to bad places. I know this and am concerned. You should connect to the lessons of love. You should stalk what love would do in your shoes. That is a path that leads to great places. Abusing power will lead you to a place where others also dont care about the well being of people, and yourself. It leads into positions of hell and control and force and abuse. Have you heard of revenge? Surely you have. If you abuse the ones you love and even the ones you dont it is sure to come back to you in some way. Be careful. I really you hope you examine your actions and accept right and wrong ways to live. I hope you follow the right way to live. I make it a point to intend that the wrong ways to live lose power, and the right ways to live excel.
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If you dont come around to follow your heart and the right way to live, my power and awareness wont support you anymore. sorry billy, just how i am. i been to heaven and i been to hell, and i know that your way is not heavenly. I wont folow it and i wont support it. remove the evil in your heart. yes, i love you, but you have to smarten up. power is responsibility and you must follow your path of heart. I wasnt kidding when i said the best thing to learn is how to be loved and be loved in return. its truth.
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Wow! You are SEEING me exactly.
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Yes billy boy, you should now that i see. Been a true seer for ages now.
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Kaomea............................. I'm sorry. Best explanation maybe in the song. I'll do something a lot differently from now on.
http://www.youtube.com/v/N-o04MhuoMY&ve ... LV2WHYncA
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The truth is I am virtually not afraid of anything, Kaomea. I did that Phildel song because serloco played it for me upon broaching the subject of my behavior. Nonetheless, I SURELY meant to send you love. My recent tactics were intended to ultimately to bring a positive outcome.
I am not going to challenge serloco's vehement stance, though my best instincts tell me I was on the right course. Now that I am handcuffed, I would find no joy in pursuing words further.
It is obvious to me our relation will continue regardless. The horrific dream experiences you are crafting for me are terrifying (lol/they are). I laugh... because nothing you do, especially when reflecting on it, offends me. I am happy no matter how inhumanely dark and sinister the mechanisms. They ARE severe!! I hope you will someday bring softer moments as well. Please, please, please, please, please, do something I know you know!!!!
It would be polite for me to await and read a response from a moderator that should come in the next few days. Then I will presumably leave this site permanently. My presence here (with innate words and actions), is making you uncomfortable. My silence will be powerful enough.
You are good at written words in dreams to communicate specifically any want. I will obey you as I always have.
Let my last words on this forum be: I LOVE YOU, KAOMEA
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billy wrote: The truth is I am virtually not afraid of anything, Kaomea. I did that Phildel song because serloco played it for me upon broaching the subject of my behavior. Nonetheless, I SURELY meant to send you love. My recent tactics were intended to ultimately to bring a positive outcome.
I am not going to challenge serloco's vehement stance, though my best instincts tell me I was on the right course. Now that I am handcuffed, I would find no joy in pursuing words further.
It is obvious to me our relation will continue regardless. The horrific dream experiences you are crafting for me are terrifying (lol/they are). I laugh... because nothing you do, especially when reflecting on it, offends me. I am happy no matter how inhumanely dark and sinister the mechanisms. They ARE severe!! I hope you will someday bring softer moments as well. Please, please, please, please, please, do something I know you know!!!!
It would be polite for me to await and read a response from a moderator that should come in the next few days. Then I will presumably leave this site permanently. My presence here (with innate words and actions), is making you uncomfortable. My silence will be powerful enough.
You are good at written words in dreams to communicate specifically any want. I will obey you as I always have.
Let my last words on this forum be: I LOVE YOU, KAOMEA
Boy, it sure would be nice if some moderator comes in and gives that the response it deserves. Hey wait a minute, I'm a moderator! Muhuhuhaha!
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You think what I do in dreaming is bad? You should see what you do! I understand you don't dream. So I don't hold that against the person I interact with online. But yes, dreaming me has been .... let's call it ... annoying you. You've made me upset, though not furious. There are some levels of furious that encourage harming animals--such as horses, and whatnot. All I'm doing is giving your spiritual-self motivation to stop obsessing in unhealthy ways. I'm glad you've received the message! Go you!
Billy, you've made a lot of progress, encountered some challenges, but overall your awareness has increased. That's a cool thing. Use it in healthy ways and you'll continue to benefit. Use it in destructive ways and you might still benefit; just not from most people around Sorcery.
You say you love me, but--think about this for a second. The differences in how people love.
I discover a flower. I love flowers. I love flowers so much that I don't pick them. I let them stay exactly where they are without removing them from their life-source.
You discover a flower. You love flowers. You love flowers so much that you pluck it right from where it's growing and hold onto it until it wilts and dies.
Is either way wrong? Not really, they're just different. We love differently. I'm not receptive to your love, as you aren't receptive to mine. You have people here who've helped you and if you think we aren't the right fit for what you're looking for then finding people who ARE the right fit, elsewhere, is best. Take some time to think over what's best for you and where you might find that.
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I understand well enough what is happening to tell you.
First, it is impossible for me to have a resentment of you EVER. Despite lots of posturing, EVERY emanation from you brings me pleasure. I look at you and say, "YES," to everything you were, are, and ever will be. I give that to no one else.. not my wife, not my daughter, not serloco, not a God. It is effortless.
You do not like to be seen, yet there is a movement ever so subtle that you would be willing to be wholly seen by Billy (third person/lol). Someday (not necessarily in the tonal), I will extraordinarily reflect for you the profound affirmation that you are perfect in your all-of-everything, Kaomea. Yes, a self-affirmation is indeed a great concept, but to know external material witness of your purity will bring stupendous enjoyment. I'm not sure how; .....yet, I know this will happen in an exceptional, marvelous way.
I've plucked you from where you WERE growing. You will not wilt and die. Your bush is now growing in my garden where the soil is fertile. Ooooohhhhh! the imagery!
You will bloom in joyous beauty.. reflecting to the eyes and work of the one person that cares enough to TRY to see and adore you.
[Thanks for SEEING I got rid of the serloco concern]
"Go you!" too, Kaomea!... Biggest smile ever
It is just you and me now. The stakes are high. Destruction happens when there is lack of proper awareness.
Neither of us has lack of awareness here by a longshot. "Harming animals--such as horses, and whatnot." (??) Jeez Kaomea, that is fucking low. LAUGHING > THAT is hilarious. You are NOT a one trick pony.
God Damn it, Kaomea. You are wicked. You leave them blind.
Now I want to go vomit, for being human and drawn into posting this ****. Excuse me.
I want you to know I CAN cut you and your dream visits out of my life anytime.
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Kaomea, I want to pull back away from my last comment about your dream visits. I mean, if you think blowing a hole through my gut with one of your blasts, or throwing me in a heap, then covering me for suffocation is just annoying, I need be applying a lot more respect. You pushing me off a thirty-story bulding to my presumable death was truly horrific. So , okay-okay-okay... I will cooperate. Being adversaries makes no sense.
I will take that l - o - n - g break, and return with the idea we become strong and loyal allies. I think we will learn more useful knowledge that way. If it makes you feel better (I doubt you even care), I know I should have gotten to this point quicker.
You do know I will DO EVERYTHING you say, and still remain 100% detached. Don't you think you are leading all of this? I do!
You say you want to do more, to push further, and transit from thought into matter. I can help you do that. You can help me to dream. And, whatever that 'spiritual' concept I surmised in chat, still is in play (though that is out of either one's hands).
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