How to become a New Seer.

[glance left]

Dream Girl...CRI...just offering something of added perspective here. Agree wholeheartedly..silence is key. The more you have, the more you get, so to speak lol. And body awareness is a very powerful element in sustaining silence. Don Juan talked incessantly about saturating the body with awareness as a means of counteracting the constant drive of the foreign installment , pulling us into its labyrinthian pathways which ultimately go nowhere and drain our energy. This constant absorption into our internal dialog, which is the manifestation of the foreign installment, numbs us to body awareness over the course of our lives...and the longer we go without cultivating this awareness within our body, the more challenging it can be to rekindle the relationship. I experienced much the same phenomenon as Dreamgirl when starting out with the Magical Passes...I just didn't get much out of them. But that wasn't because the Passes aren't powerful...they are! It was because my body was almost inert, with respect to awareness being alive in there. It took awhile to warm up those pathways. Now, to add to what Dreamgirl put forth here...Magical Passes are not the only means of rekindling body awareness to help counter the internal dialog. There are countless other systems of movement which can help facilitate enlivening this awareness...and besides that, there is the potency of intent itself. One can simply intend to become more and more aware of one's body...and the wonderful thing about this is that the more aware that one becomes of one's body, the more silent one becomes. It starts off like something akin to one beginning a sculpture project..say, starting with a giant block of marble, to use the classical motif. One begins to chisel away in big chunks to get the gross form of the finished product brought into focus first. This is like starting to become grossly aware of one's body in general...legs, torso, arms, head..the obvious aspects of body-awareness. Then as this becomes more available, one will become more aware of subtle energetic pathways which cruise and thrum beneath the surface of the more obvious, chunky aspects of body-awareness. Awareness itself will help begin opening these channels which will, in turn, help us to perpetuate silence even further...deeper. As you can see, the whole phenomenon will begin to gather momentum, feeding into one another ...and by then...well...the value of the process will become obvious...self-evident...and body awareness itself will take over and engender the knowledge needed to facilitate its own growth and evolution. The key is just getting started...with whatever means works for you, as Dreamgirl implies above...and then just following the pursuit deeper and deeper. Sooner or later, your own endeavors will awaken the seer within and it will show you the way home!

[Cedar Waxwing]

Thank you Glance.  This is so timely.  Transferring awareness to the body, another approach in the constant yearn for silence of the mind.  Have been doing repetitive wrapping of fabric for dyes, the monotony of it, so thought picks up the slack. But now I can approach it with awareness to my fingers, hands, the feeling of fabric.  Isn't this possible even in tech work at a computer?  Awareness to the electrical impulses transferred in brain activity.  Concentration on our eye movements.  All of it.  Magical passes bring that focus in.  Just calisthenics vs. yard work....list on.

[glance left]

"All of it"



Absolutely! All of it Ultimately, this is the best way of course. To bring saturations of awareness into our bodies while going about our business during the day. This is the most assured was of sustaining inner silence.

[dreamgirl]

Glance, your words are very powerful to me right now.  You see right through me.  Thanks

[glance left]

Well then, we are mutually inspired! Because of your contribution to the conversation, my efforts at deepening silence via body-awareness-saturation have been galvinized. So, thank you for that warrior friend

[fabs]

The energy body does not need to have a dialogue. When we become lucid it might be able to have  a dialogue because with lucidity, we tend to move back to a position of rationality, further away from the left side awareness. So the trick for me is not stop the dialogue while 'being' in the mental but intend to connect to the energy body and put my awareness there during the day. So it is 'presence' from this perspective rather than the normal awareness making a huge effort to control words.  It is like a small death where we have to trust that we can exist without the inner dialogue, that nothing is so important that we must review or discuss. So it is right to say dreaming helps and one good practice for me is to pretend I am dreaming during my day activities.

[Peacefulwarrior]

Life is so emotionally painful in here that I just want to end it all.

[delawaredan]

Use the pain to gain personal power and strength and do not be defeated by the Flyer.

[Uncle Sam]

PW: Suicide is always completely very bad idea - possibly except of volitional palliative euthanasia or in combat, preventing enemy to get you and torture you, e.g. gestapo nazis, or some toltecs to eat you alive lol, but seriously, if one kills oneself for such a petty "reason" the point is that it is deeply injurious to oneself to kill oneself. It is the worst thing to do next to killing ones parents, it is even worse than murder or killing of someone else. The frequent result of suicide is to be reborn as miserable ghost or as crippled man or deeply disadvantaged in third world countries.
Do not entertain the idea of suicide. It is not the end, the solution of existence, it kills the physical body only (whats keeping you here safely alive, a good thing) and THEN you have a real, big problem. Human body/awareness is very precious existentially.
This the problem of CC stuff that people think "total freedom" or suicide. i.e. that there is only this one race or nothing. Big time spiritual nihilism.
true story

[Uncle Sam]

the key is to do yoga: inner silence and from this starts seeing.

yogash citta vrtti nirodha - inner silence

tada drastuh... seeing starts (drastuh is seer)

piece of cake.

natural state.

this why it so hard, especially when conceptualizing it, hard to drop it. to drop concepts.

(additional)

http://www.ashtangayoga.info/source-tex ... irodhah-2/

http://www.ashtangayoga.info/source-tex ... sthanam-3/

[Sacateca]

Peacefulwarrior wrote:Life is so emotionally painful in here that I just want to end it all.Well, I tried that and was sent to hell
Fortunate for me I was given another chance
You can't kill yourself expecting things to get better
You take the essence of your problems with you...forever!!!
Supposedly...
The Big Bang was God, ONCE AGAIN, trying to kill Himself out of boredom.
Of course, it didn't work
I NEVER WORKS!!!
This is why God is not going to allow people to exist happily ever after by committing suicide
If God can't do it and get away with it He sure is not going to let US do it and get away with it!
Supposedly....

[Sacateca]

Peacefulwarrior wrote:Life is so emotionally painful in here that I just want to end it all.The only reason you want to "end it all" is because you are certain if you do you will feel better.
Unfortunately, I learned the hard way, that you have no choice except to get stronger, face life head-on and CONQUER!!!
There is no reward for those who commit suicide except to save others in certain circumstances
There may be other exceptions like to keep from being tortured to death. I'm not certain. It's a touchy situation, but I don't suggest anyone risk it.
The strengthening of the ability to desensitize oneself to whatever pain one must endure to become stronger is best learned while working out. The gym has been a true Power Spot for me in which I have learned how to use CERTAIN PAIN to my advantage.
One must learn the different between the pain one can use to become stronger and the pain that causes injury.
They are not the same!
Once you are finally convinced that suicide is not an option you have no choice except to become stronger or SUFFER!!!!!
That's the best advice I can offer you. Once of the reasons I feel I was sent back from suicide was to help anyone considering suicide with this information

[rosygyro]

the eagles emanitions can be alikened to a lightening strike.a mans body like a conductive element transmitting it to ground in his totality.If you commit suicide.. what you do is take away the conductive element midway through the strikea body is the best way to temper the power, it twists through blood vessels and is harnessed by movement.. all the whilethe awarness liviung as a percieving force.without your body. to temper the strike..that force hits the tonal that should in destiny surround you..the blood no longer stepps the power down with your pulse..and the muscles can no longer move to turn the force around.and yet your destiny and your awarness remains in sutu as a perciever.LIMBO.. is the place such beings are awarne from..and for all their removement from the corporeal world the power still flows..Dangerously fast and uncontrolled by your bodyEVERY
person you ever loved or ever hated is stuck on the periphery of your
awarness being struck repeatedly by the power without proper guidance.and so suicide is a horrible thing to do to thoe you love or hate..their tonals suffer.
Dont commit suicide..your responsibility if you love is to live.live honourably.choose life because you love others more than your own desire to escape.besides there is no escape from limbo, there is no body to move..just awarness without its tools.
some would say that the suicide path is a cause unto itself..and that the suffering of life is intensifying..once dead the suffering is self explanatoryfor limbo itself is supreme agony.LIMBO itslef is what drew you to it, made you depressed to claim you for eternity.
it takes ONE LIFETIME to resolve an incarnation.without a body to temper the flow within timeit can take 1000s of years before a single destiny is resloved.
basicly.. suicide is a no-no.
if you must consider suicide as a WAY.then consider what i have saidand what euthenasia is.. and how the souls who opt out in modern medicine and the modern way resolve their tonals once departed.make a plan. make a philosophy, and make sure you are not caught between worlds.an infinite journey without any control is not freedom..just infinite.

[Mornings Son]

great post rosy ))

[Mornings Son]

what is the best way to find peace of mind Rosy?

[rosygyro]

i genuinly dont know.. as ive never looked for it!
How to become a seer.1) appreciate there is a mass human assemblage position.2)tie yourself to it.. and become aware of it in the sorcerers world.3) spend the rest of your life dying thousands of times a day as well as being reborn, abused, tortured4)
learn empathy within the network of human relationships.. awareness
totality even in lifestyles you are excluded from or lucky enough to
have avoided this life.5) become so full of energetic tears it is a wonder you are still alive.6)
sit infront of the destructive force of the nagual.. and see what it is
you have learned which the nagual has no purpose in destroying.
i have never looked for peace of mind...I have always sought the indestructible core.. the fibre that support our mortality.to do  this i have had to experiment with self destruction..trial and error until what remains is  resilient.
even now i am becoming restless.. for a new challenge..i must find a new madness.
destructive force of the nagual (east)
1) in 1000 years humanity if still alive will be an advanced species potentiallly with universal awarness and no sexual abuse in its mass assemblage position.2) hedonists of the new age try to embody that area of new assemblage and call it such things as 12d lightbody awarness.3) a warrior knows that it is the TOTAL ASSEMBLAGE which must shift.. and so he positions himself as an example of man in 2013.. saying "take these meridians of my body" take this mote in the sorcerers world... and BREAK those parts of it we will not have in the earths future..do it now!4) a warrior then becomes struck by the cure for sexual abuse..believe it or not.. the cure is a painfull thing to try to find.5) it is conneting the void to the sexual energy..not like the old sorcerers but like the NEW SEERS NEW SEERS NEW SEERS NEW SEERS NEW SEERS NEW SEERS.
what else could a NEW SEER be?

[glance left]

Get out of the mind...the thing that perennially considers...is concerned...and get into the body, which is complex beyond words....a complexity of which can only be appreciated by direct awareness through its vehicle. All those networks light up in the context of pure direct awareness, and then all those latent possibilities gradually become apparent...and we see what we've been missing. The body knows how to love...and not simply sexually...I mean the whole thing. The whole thing can burn with love...and when get a taste of that experience, only an **** would go back to the colorless world of perennial thoughts.

[rosygyro]

NEW SEER..
I think the aim of personal habitual assemblage point.and devotion to the warriors path are different things.i think special tricks and energy are just another drug.if the human assemblage position moves for our planet..the deepest past of mankind will be revealed.its worth more for awarness in general to work the rosethan it is for any single person to attempt infinity.

[delawaredan]

Isn't the aim the fluidity of the assembladge point?

[rosygyro]

delawaredan wrote:Isn't the aim the fluidity of the assembladge point?there are different ypes of fluidity!a shift of the assemblage point and a movement are both fluidity.one style is permanent.. and as the root of mortality and awarness are deep within the resistence of the habitual position.a movemnt must take your awarness into the depths of human awarness.the warriors path is like drilling thorugh a shell..deeper nature is a fluidity which all people share wether sorcerer or simply in the midst of their folly.true stalking is the awarness of your heart .. which stalks your opponent into seeing his own.i.e. i would never stalk you by your tonal weaknesses and resitencesbut would talk freely..my awarness of the warriors pathwould spark awarness in you of a deeper field of awarnesswhich would manifest warriors challenge in your tonalits indirect.the reason we must head toward the root of the human condition is that it contains the truht of why resitence and social conditioning formed.to simply be beyond and more fluid than ordinary men.. avoids the challenge of being one.how can you meet in folly if you ave forgotten your own?

[Peacefulwarrior]

Spud wrote:Awesome post Lonewolf with mostly useful insights from all concerned. I too feel that the difference between the old and new seers manifests on the acknowledgement of ones spiritual self and the path of heart. There is only love and truth, everything else is bullshit and food for the FI.

Comming from a space of only LOVE and TRUTH, and acknowledgement that you cannot have one without the other is the true battle of the warrior and the hearts path to self empowerment and freedom.

Acceptance of ones own Soveriegn Being and connection to spirit from within is our birthright, and the foreign installation can only have power if we feed that power by denying our right to 'BE' alongside all of creation. 'As above so below' is apropriate here, if your spirit is truly free then the multi dimensional part of you that is tonal must also be free.
If that is not the case then you only need to check the tonal to identify the point of bondage as there is no power in the multiverse that can enslave your spirit.

A 'New Seer' comes from the heart, using love and truth as the stalking intent, to identify descipancies within the whole being to strike at those discrepancies with perfect timing . Do not interpret the words LOVE and TRUTH as weak and fluffy, they can easily be as cold and hard as any aggressive word you can imagine. Sometimes tough love is required, and the truth can hurt. If one is intending to be impeccable then love and truth are your ally in stalking self and others. A New Seer will act for the highest good of all and not just oneself or the obsolete socially constructed bullshit that contaminates our power and hinders our spiritual evolution.

The real battle for the warrior, is adapting to, and integrating the rising vibrational changes and enhancing our spiritual and multidimensional connections to all aspects of the mulitverse, thus expanding the effectiveness in our seeing ability.

Lee
Very well said Lee. Thank you! I would really like to talk to someone about Love and about my enlightening experiences. Please pm me if you are up for chat or a discussion. Also anyone who reads this and is open for a discussion about life, love and anything else that is spiritual please pm me.

[rosygyro]

Did you become a """"NEW SEER"...?
Find out next life.

[SilvioManuel]

The new seers strive to achieve total freedom.

Total freedom means having accumulated so much power and invoking such intent that the individual can simply leave this world, taking his entire body with him. Unlike when ordinary men die, warriors' bodies travel to the third attention with every single cell entirely conscious, with the totality of themselves.

To visualize this from a tonalistic perspective; I like to think of Don Juan's metaphor that he uses in one of the later books:

"Human awareness is like an immense haunted house. The awareness of everyday life is like being sealed in one room of that immense house for life. We enter the room through a magical opening: birth. And we exit through another such magical opening: death.
Sorcerers, however, are capable of finding still another opening and can leave that sealed room while still alive. A superb attainment. But their astounding accomplishment is that when they escape from that sealed room they choose freedom. They choose to leave that immense, haunted house entirely instead of getting lost in other parts of it."

Concluding from what Don Juan says in the same book (The Power of Silence, I think), when warriors dart past the Eagle to be free they simply turn into inorganic beings of immense power. They won't be immortal though, for their extremely enhanced consciousness will last as long as the Earth does, because the Earth is their core.

BUT, however, none of this matters if you have not defeated the foreign installation. It is disheartening and outright discouraging to see so many "seers" in these forums comment about love and light and how they know everything. You can tell they are still being halted by the flyer. Beating the flyer is at the core of humanity's problem. It is the biggest factor of ALL of our problems. Every myth, every religion, every expression of art retains in its deepest form the unconditional desire to break free. But we don't know what to break free from, since of course the flyer is directing our lives. We are lucky to have stumbled upon the teachings of Don Juan, for know we know as a matter of fact the existence of the warrior. But as Don Juan says himself, it doesn't matter if the biggest truth of the universe is whispered to you, if you don't have enough personal power you can't do **** about it.

So this is where the important part of sorcery comes in. The new seers, much learned from their experiences with the Spanish conquistadors, adapted much of the knowledge of the old seers but changed it fundamentally.

I cannot carve a map out for you of how these techniques work, because they are techniques of power, and power cannot be rationalized. Remember, the FIRST thing to be done is to beat the flyer. And this takes all the energy you can summon. The fight is here, now, in this chest, as you're reading this poem. There's is no more adventure that is more worthwhile in your entire life.

Let's revise the basic things we know about sorcery in order to accomplish that.

You must lose your self-importance:
---Memento Mori - Remembering you are mortal and that nothing matters is essential for killing the ego.
---Erasing personal history and dreaming accelerate it.
---Not doing, the act of confusing the flyer by going against your inventory is very important too.
---Talking to plants is a good exercise.
---Using petty tyrants helps as well.
---Reaching the place of no-pity is an instantaneous blow.
You must accrue inner silence to stop the world:
---To accrue inner silence you must learn to shut off your internal dialogue at will.
You must gather energy:
---Recapitulation gathers tremendous amounts of energy and also frees up space for more.
---Doing the magical passes gathers energy.
---Stopping the energy leaks is essential.
-------Celibacy stops energy leaking from orgasm.
-------Eating just for energy and for alleviating hunger stops energy leaking from food anxiety.
-------Taking care of your body helps to plug energy leaks.
You must dream.
You must stalk yourself.

The end goal of gathering energy is to shift the AP. Once you do that, you can explore other worlds of perception, which will in turn boost your energy and shake the flyer. But it's important to remember that in order to explore the haunted house of perception without fucking up you have to have enough sobriety. Sobriety is acquired by remembering constantly of your death and using it as an adviser.

I think most real sorcerers in this world (like La Catalina) and the Old Seers were obsessed with traveling the haunted house of perception and gathering power. They were not able however to overcome the flyer. Which is why shifting the AP by itself means nothing. If you wanna do that just take tons of drugs everyday and there you go. Warriors are strategic, everything they do is calculated.

The most important part of sorcery, or as Don Juan calls it; the crux of sorcery is to attain inner silence. For that you must stay long enough without the internal dialogue. Inner silence has to be built up. You just have to keep adding inner silence to your stock as much as you can, and then eventually BOOM, you stop the world. That is the moment when perception stops form being deviated by the flyer and is experienced directly by your essence. As Don Juan puts it.

Eventually, once a sorcerer starts having enough inner silence, he is thrown a choice by the spirit. He can either continue his in-between life of being a sorcerer or continue on the path of knowledge and become a warrior. If he accepts, he will never be the same again. Warriors are everything sorcerers are but more. For example; they have to be a bastion of impeccability. It is not an option, it's simply freedom. Impeccability accumulates power. Warriors also have to stalk extensively and develop their double fully.

There are many MANY other techniques and knowledge explained in the works of CC.

There is for example seeing, gazing, fixing the island of the tonal, controlled folly, the rings of power, humbleness, responsibility, taking everything as a challenge, intenting, fixing the spirit and so many other things.

Lastly, it is crucial to understand this:

"You have everything needed for the extravagant journey that is your life. What counts for a warrior is being alive. I have tried to teach you that the real experience is to be a man, and that what counts is being alive; life is the little detour that we are taking now. Life in itself is sufficient, self-explanatory and complete.  A warrior understands this and lives accordingly; therefore, one may say without being presumptuous that the experience of experiences is being alive."

And:

"Persist in acting like a warrior. The rest comes of itself and by itself. The rest is knowledge and power. Men of knowledge have both. And yet none of them could tell how they got to have them, except that they had kept on acting like warriors and at a given moment everything changed."

[funnyguy]

Who's giving out the shoulder sleeve insignias?

[glance left]

Or the shoulder brocades? : D

One sneaky feature of the flyer, I've noticed, is the compulsion of constant comparison to others on the path....or to others "not on the path", as the case may be in my limited perception.  Particularly in the context of my perceived progress "on the path".  Once lost in thought about "where I'm at" in comparison to "where others are at", I've been captured and diverted!  Which is no big deal of course......but certainly a good time to recover pure, clear awareness....free of judgment.....free of classifying thoughts about what I think I'm seeing  (such an ironic statement, that).  "This is this" and "That is that"....as if attaching qualifiers conveys any understanding whatsoever.  It doesn't.  Its me pretending to understand in collaboration with the flyer.  I do it....its done....its how we communicate....words  But the truth, which is utterly beyond description, is buried deep within my presumed understanding....my conceit....with its parade of descriptors. 

When I catch myself comparing like this...ramping up in self righteousness, I drop it like a rock...............

unless I don't : D