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scout1 wrote:We should fear death because of the danger in the next world.
I see.
However, what if there is no more danger in the next world than there was in this one?
What about the energetic movement towards fear instead of moving towards love...isnt that a danger too?
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Barefoot: i think you are missing the point here.. this is about your personal death not my pants
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I know that you keep thinking I am missing your point and I am having trouble understanding you, however, you havent answered my questions.
Fear is a very base emotion...geared in human survival and tends to detract one from spiritual growth. You are telling us to be afraid, however, havent substantiated a reason for moving away from love and towards that fear. Im asking...
If we move from world to world...should we have been afraid of this world? If we didn't need to be afraid of this world on what grounds should we be afraid of the next? What is the purpose of generating that fear? Dont you see a energetic problem with altering ones energy to fear?
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pulling the plug today, this is my last post ever.
i'm done with all this bull$hit. i did my best to
alert the general public that cc punked you and
everyone else at UCLA. sorry, nothing personal,
to me if you still follow this stuff you are either
mental ill or just retarded. i hope some day you
get well but for now you're just going to have
cling to your illness or ego. that's the way it is.
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NLW: fine that Dreamways is not banned here.
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Castaneda literature is "spiritual toxin", ie misleading for some people, because its not flight into second attention or the dreaming capability itself whats primary, but its impecability - or rather morality - the "magical powers" are by-product of spared energy or "pure moral" (ascetic) way of life and in other traditions they are labeled as possible distraction, and this distraction is what is toxic in CC literature, but it is not his fault but the readers who took it as a paragon for their life instead of really being an authentic sane person= who is a "real warrior", CC created a whole new terminology and corresponding theology whats the problem, a language trap - because people were fascinated with this literature... AND it should be clear that CC is not presenting the whole truth or universal knowledge at all, just the nagualism, sorcery. Just putting opinions together, saving your time.
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Showmans of Ancient Mexico and their Unending Intent
Courthouse News Service
http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/10/07/40421.htm
more
Top notch Energy Tracker and Element Sue Cleargreen in Castaneda's Legacy Forum
http://sustainedreaction....nt-Sue-Cleargreen?page=1
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Scout, you have not given me any reason to be afraid or worried about what comes after death. You use alot of quotes, however, dont tie any of it in to what goes on for people so there is no way for me to follow what you are saying. I dont believe your fantasy any more than I believed CCs.
Occupy life. When its done occupy that too.
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BarefootInTheSand wrote:Viva la Occupy!
Oi Barefoot
How can we best contribute to the movement and awakening?
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"Occupy everything" is human massive stalking maneuver
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energylover:
well let's see if you can follow this, ok? you can't take something false and make it into some true. it's just not possible. and you can't
suddenly add your special intent to something that is false either. Why is that? Because the god inside of you just doesn't work that way.
since all of us are gods, (not THE god) this is is how we operate. All you can do is submit to this power, you don't get to make your
own power that goes against nature. it won't work no matter how many books you write. so here is how it works, ready?:
"The real is that which is true and not false. Every person has a true heart. If the true heart strays, however, then it becomes
untrue to its own nature. Every person has a true intention. But if the true intention strays, it becomes untrue to its own nature.
Every person has a true feeling. When the true feeling strays from the original nature, it becomes untrue. An intention that
originates from the true heart is true intention. The intention that is calculating and scheming is untrue. A feeling that originates
from the true heart is true feeling. Feeling that has self-importance in it is untrue. What is the true heart??? The true heart is
original nature. The true heart tends toward goodness. Feeling and intention originate from the heart. IF the heart is true,
the feeling and intention will be true. Cultivating the true heart is cultivating original nature. Original nature is the manifestation
of the natural way of Heaven. Many who claim to cultivate the Tao still possess egotistical thoughts. Where there is ego,
the true heart cannot emerge. It is only in stillness and the absence of craving the original nature can be cultivated. Those who seek
the Tao must begin with knowing the difference between true and untrue feeling, true and untrue intention. If you know the
difference, then you will know the true heart. Intention and feeling can be known by observing the behavior in your daily life.
IF your actions are not sincere, then true feeling is absent. If your words are false, then true intention is absent. (you got nothing)
If you want to cultivate the Tao you must eradicate attachments that lead true intention and true feeling astray. Let original nature
rather than your ego guide your actions. Do not waver in your pursuit of goodness. Then, your true heart, true feeling, and true
intention will emerge and you will not be far from the Tao. These are the teachings of the real truth."
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Mornings Son wrote:BarefootInTheSand wrote:Viva la Occupy!
Oi Barefoot
How can we best contribute to the movement and awakening?
Sometimes the best way to contribute is to just show up.
I was just posting this morning in SR about the magic that takes place when people just post and share. Even when those posting do it for their own reasons...other members get something out of it. Sometimes what one gets is not quantifiable. Like when EL posted in the dream thread about the SR happenings. Maybe he just needed to express himself. However, I got alot out of that. I had been watching things in the forum turn and felt like I was the only one to see it. So I was over here, trying to read the dream thread feeling very much alone and lost. He posted for his own reasons, however, it let me know I wasnt alone. That meant something to me. I was sorry to be posting off topic in the beautiful dream thread...however, I really needed to get that post from EL. I'm glad Wolf was able to delete those posts and I am grateful that it didnt stop the dreamer from posting...and grateful to have had the space for that to take place. So sometimes the best one can do is just show up.
In these forums and the whole Castaneda debate Im a middle of the fencer...I think his stories were stories, however, it contained real knowledge. I got something from the books. However, my feelings about created natures and true natures I tend to believe that sometimes people replace their own true natures with the natures of others. I believe that people have done this with Castanedas stuff...swapped their descriptions for his. So in occupying ones own personal development...show up. Show up for yourself. Where Castaneda stands in ones mind...you now stand in that place in your own mind. Take back your mind. Because really, even though you read the books...you are the one that did the work...it was your accomplishment...not Castanedas.
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Barefoot.
Thanks for the answer. Much deeper than expected, expectations is a **** by the way.
I love stories, most of the time all that people say and write is stories. Some stories are 'true' according to consensus rules of one group or another. I all ways preferred the stories that sounds full of wonder and things that provokes me to open up to possibilities. True or not true I don't care. For me Truth is found within and can't be expressed directly in words anyway.
The tonal reality is a like a picture on the tv screen. The mind is the TV set. Nagual is the the LifeForce that flows though it all and supply the energy needed to it all.
Oh to get hands on the controls and to get to edit the show/program as it runs. Maybe even modify and upgrade the TV set.
hehe rambling on
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energylover wrote:pulling the plug today, this is my last post ever.
i'm done with all this bull$hit. i did my best to
alert the general public that cc punked you and
everyone else at UCLA. sorry, nothing personal,
to me if you still follow this stuff you are either
mental ill or just retarded. i hope some day you
get well but for now you're just going to have
cling to your illness or ego. that's the way it is. To bad you wasted you energy on all this bull...
I hope you have learned something for yourself though.
What is it 'to be well' in your judgement?
Is it to believe the same as the majority and live the same way?
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Thanks Morning Sun...and word. ^
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it's all in your head, he made all that **** up.
now you want to believe it. don't be stupid.
let it all go and travel on down the road.
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you lost your chance, old
age is quickly advancing. you
feel it but there is not much
you can do. the bird of
nagualism has deserted you,
only thing left is your cynical
bitter patheticness and your
psuedo-religious anti-Castaneda
'crusade'; dont be stupid. you think
Castaneda fooled you and you
fool yourself, hopelessly trying
to waylay others on their heart
path; but what you say with
certainty is only a belief, which
makes your lies truly despicable.
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energylover wrote:it's all in your head, he made all that **** up.
now you want to believe it. don't be stupid.
let it all go and travel on down the road.
you lost your chance, old
age is quickly advancing. you
feel it but there is not much
you can do. the bird of
nagualism has deserted you,
only thing left is your cynical
bitter patheticness and your
psuedo-religious anti-Castaneda
'crusade'; dont be stupid. you think
Castaneda fooled you and you
fool yourself, hopelessly trying
to waylay others on their heart
path; but what you say with
certainty is only a belief, which
makes your lies truly despicable.
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energylover wrote:it's all in your head, he made all that **** up.
now you want to believe it. don't be stupid.
let it all go and travel on down the road.
you lost your chance, old
age is quickly advancing. you
feel it but there is not much
you can do. the bird of
nagualism has deserted you,
only thing left is your cynical
bitter patheticness and your
psuedo-religious anti-Castaneda
'crusade'; dont be stupid. you think
Castaneda fooled you and you
fool yourself, hopelessly trying
to waylay others on their heart
path; but what you say with
certainty is only a belief, which
makes your M.O. truly despicable.
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Is it that Amy Wallace or another **** ??!
By Amy Wallace
An Epidemic of Fear: How Panicked Parents Skipping Shots Endangers Us All
October 19, 2009 | 3:00 pm | Wired Nov 2009
http://www.wired.com/maga...10/ff_waronscience/all/1
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Castaneda lied! He fooled all of us!
OMG I have to go warn everyone.
Hey guys, Castaneda sucked and he lied
about everything. Yeah, all his books are not
true, they are all fabricated fairy tales. Pretty crazy
huh? What, you dont believe me? Dont be so stupid, if you
believe Castaneda's books are true you have a mental illness
or you are part of a cult. Yep. I have now healed you from
your affliction, I am the great Castaneda Debunker here to
save you from your delusional beliefs and childish illusions.
Face it, Castaneda was a very bad cult leader, he was a
master con-artist, a psychopath, in general a terrible person.
He wrote books claiming that they were actual events that took
place in real life but they were just a fictional fantasy story!
You must feel really dumb right now huh? Dont worry, you
can become a Disbeliever just like me! We can join together
and form our own cult and debunk and bash Castaneda,
nagualism, and all his blind zombie followers. That will teach them.
We are here to save the world from the evil sinister
cult-master Carlos Castaneda, we must enlighten the
people and help them deprogram from the Nagual-cults; we
do this because our crusade is righteous and true.
So dont hate me just because I belittle your beliefs and
arrogantly proclaim with smug condescension how you
are sick and deluded with no idea what true reality is, whereas
I myself know for a fact beyond all doubt that Castaneda
completely made up his books from his imagination and
other stolen sources; don Juan is not real, nagualism has
no value at all to anyone; only an insane person would
consider 'don Juans' teachings as true or try to follow them,
and if you believe there is any truth in his writings you are a fool.
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i see my replacement has arrived.
i guess i can retire now
remember to have fun while
you **** slap everyone.
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