11-23-2011, 12:02 AM
Diamond: Yes !!
Lets cure them.
Lets cure them.
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Carlos Castaneda
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11-23-2011, 12:02 AM
Send me your email Diamond, we will cure them.
They need desperately their daily dose of Haldol, especially our Genardo Sacateca, we must send him help before its too late.
11-28-2011, 12:02 AM
Maybe this place should become the healing from skepticism forum where old skeptics can begin to believe in themselves again?
12-09-2011, 12:02 AM
Well, i comment here on post mortem destiny of Nagualist practitioners, like ancient sorcerers, Don Juan Matus, Carlos Castaneda and those who will follow..
If You wont make it ("total freedom activity ideal", the dream of sorcerers) and wont dissolve into Infinity - the end result of advanced nagualist practitior is basically "GRAVEYARD" (and there are differences.. you can stay with inorganics, in death defiers world, in freaky places like a ghost), a hence the saying to be tied to a pole of Eternity like a donkey, forever. But, ordinary person also takes the time after the death in some various (freaky) landscapes (like a ghost), respectively reapers with its mindstream(samtana = consciousness stream) in some of the six realms of existence. But the problem with sorcery (nagualism) is you can end up somewhere as ghost for as long as the time lasts, for aeons, forever. Hence they saying to risk something much more than ones life. But we are mostly ordinary people. This note concerns more advanced practitioners. Other people simply reappers after death with theirs mindstream ad infinitum until the total unbinding, the great Nirvana is reached. Its good to know about Buddhas perspective, and i am glad i can do this service for you here, the ancient sorcerers did not know too much about karma and consequences, and got trapped or ended up terribly. Also hells are real.
12-11-2011, 12:02 AM
In my quest to understand why all the need for details and controversy over Castaneda.
Lately I have been considering in greater depth the character TBD who (for reasons I dont quite understand) first believed Castaneda's fantastical stories as writing the complete and utter truth and then was deeply hurt when he realized that the stories were made up. Also (for reasons I dont quite understand), he is stuck in his upset today as if it were twenty years ago...it strikes me as strange. The last part of his character (personal story he is acting out) is the way in he blames Castaneda for his own choice not to go be with his uncle. Castaneda didnt tell him...he just simply wanted to be around Castaneda during that time. Only later after many years did he then regret that and rather than be sorry he projects that to Castaneda. Ok, I get that he is upset...however, I think that what is at play behind that is narcasim as in NPD which I stated on the SR with quotes. A person with NPD does tend to put people they esteem on a pedastool and when they fall from that grace it is like it happened yesterday. People with NPD also cannot see themselves as wrong and so it is logical to them that it was Castanedas fault TBD esteemed him and wanted to be with him rather than with his family. So what do I think is behind the controversy? Nut bags. I think nut bags are behind the controversy. I think anyone who has a personality disorder that goes to any of these things or reads these books is libal to wind up crying cult. Because these things are not meant for nut bags who cant separate hyperbole and fantasy from reality. Also people with NPD are incapable of considering other peoples experiences which is why it is missing in the cult buster sites...there is no room for other people having an ok time. Just as there was no room in the new SR for my feeling that the book was just a book and the man just a man. People with NPD also want to be special...cult buster sites are a means and a way for them to imagine that they are special performing some service in the world. Who cares about what color pants Castaneda wore or how old he was? It just doesnt matter. He was able to deliver some gems of knowledge amid all the wild fantastical stories he told.
12-11-2011, 12:02 AM
scout1 wrote:
But the problem with sorcery (nagualism) is you can end up somewhere as ghost for as long as the time lasts, for aeons, forever. Hence they saying to risk something much more than ones life. But we are mostly ordinary people. This note concerns more advanced practitioners. Other people simply reappers after death with theirs mindstream ad infinitum until the total unbinding, the great Nirvana is reached. Its good to know about Buddhas perspective, and i am glad i can do this service for you here, the ancient sorcerers did not know too much about karma and consequences, and got trapped or ended up terribly. Also hells are real.Hells are real. Says who? And why oh WHY would you believe them? The only real "hells" I know are those right here on Earth - the self-made hells people choose to live in as a result of their own fears and false belief systems. Freedom is the fine art of releasing hell altogether. The warrior practices "the right way to live" - which I've written about at length elsewhere. It's not about morality or "right" and "wrong" because ALL of those things are manmade. The right way to live is written on the strands of our DNA and inscribed on the pixels of our spirit. For the warrior who practices TRWTL, hells and heavens are just virtual realities in which phantoms may choose to exist. People who fear Carlos or fear God or fear karma... are just existing in the state of fear, which automatically precludes any possibility of freedom - because fear and freedom are mutually exclusive.
12-14-2011, 12:02 AM
Yes QS you hit the nail on the head, the warrior doesn't care about good or evil for he/she sees the designs of the spirit. Designs described by Castaneda in several of his books. Don Juan was real and so were the other naguals such as Don Genaro, Don Silvio, and Valencia, my teacher. Once the reader accepts these facts they can immerse themselves into what is truly another way to see the world never thought possible by modern man.
12-15-2011, 12:02 AM
there is no available evidence to support
CC's claim that those people in his books ever existed. we would have go on his word alone. Sorry but for a known liar this extension of giving him the doubt is not possible. No one has ever produced any evidence whatsoever that Juan Matus was real or that he existed. You are taking everything on Charlies' faith. Therefore you are no better than any of the religious freaks throughout the world. You would be just another "believer". How's that working for ya? Does intent answer your prayers for you too?
12-15-2011, 12:02 AM
energylover wrote: Therefore you
are no better than any of the religious freaks throughout the world. You would be just another "believer". How's that working for ya? -> Personal experience is my highest authority on Truth. From that place I can tell you that there are spirit teaching out there that reminds me of Don Juan and Don Genaro Does intent answer your prayers for you too? -> Oi ! It sort of does. Say so because its not really prayers that is the way I connect with Intent. Difficult to describe what that connection is as it is more energy than word in nature.
12-15-2011, 12:02 AM
he wrote: Personal experience is my highest authority on Truth. From that place I can tell you that there are spirit teaching out there that reminds me of Don Juan and Don Genaro
well personal experience is just dandy, however there are other people here on this Earth (7 billion + counting) i wouldn't base all the truth on just my own experience. There just might be some others who have discovered things that you haven't. No argument there huh? And btw the way, if you want to refer to these fictional characters, at least do it correctly. The way you word it it makes it sound and look like these guys both had the name "Don". Only use Don with a capital when you start a sentence, just like any other way when one starts a new sentence. The "don" you are looking for here should be this: don Juan or don Genaro. The only two Dons i know of are Don Johnson and Don Henley. Just because there are spirit teaching(s) out there that remind you of these two characters doesn't mean that it validates those two. That's huge leap amigo. You want to believe huh? Yeah i wanted to believe Santa Claus, because you know afterall it is such a comforting thought in your head.
12-15-2011, 12:02 AM
energylover wrote:he wrote: Personal experience is my highest authority on Truth. From that place I can tell you that there are spirit teaching out there that reminds me of Don Juan and Don Genaro
well personal experience is just dandy, however there are other people here on this Earth (7 billion + counting) i wouldn't base all the truth on just my own experience. There just might be some others who have discovered things that you haven't. No argument there huh? And btw the way, if you want to refer to these fictional characters, at least do it correctly. The way you word it it makes it sound and look like these guys both had the name "Don". Only use Don with a capital when you start a sentence, just like any other way when one starts a new sentence. The "don" you are looking for here should be this: don Juan or don Genaro. The only two Dons i know of are Don Johnson and Don Henley. Just because there are spirit teaching(s) out there that remind you of these two characters doesn't mean that it validates those two. That's huge leap amigo. You want to believe huh? Yeah i wanted to believe Santa Claus, because you know afterall it is such a comforting thought in your head. Now this is a spelling class too. Lol Spareenergy we live in two different realities and with different parameters to measure truth and Truth. No point in me wasting time or effort to communicate with you.
12-16-2011, 12:02 AM
energylover wrote:
there is no available evidence to support CC's claim that those people in his books ever existed. we would have go on his word alone. Sorry but for a known liar this extension of giving him the doubt is not possible. No one has ever produced any evidence whatsoever that Juan Matus was real or that he existed. You are taking everything on Charlies' faith. Therefore you are no better than any of the religious freaks throughout the world. You would be just another "believer". How's that working for ya? Does intent answer your prayers for you too? It doesn't matter if don Juan existed or not. The "teachings" came from somewhere, and work for those who pursue the core essence of what is INTENDED. That doesn't necessarily mean that burying yourself in the earth will lead to enlightenment, nor will dreaming save you from the eagle. What it means is that there is truth in what has been put forth - truth which can be validated by one's own efforts. To look at your argument from a more "religious" perspective, does it really matter of Jesus existed or not? The "teachings" came from somewhere and there is truth in some of it (ditto for Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, etc). Even if none of the great teachers ever existed (Jesus, Buddha, Lao Tsu, Muhammed, et al), there is still truth to the teachings IF (and only if) the seeker looks beyond the surface story and into what is actually intended by the teachings themselves. Don Juan may have been nothing more than a character in a story. Does that invalidate the entire story? Santa Claus doesn't exist, so maybe we should cancel Christmas and tell all those expecting children that their parents are just liars and frauds. Does intent answer your prayers? Sure. And a lot faster and more efficiently than any belief in "god". Why? Because intent is the force that lies behind do-ing. If I pray for a new car and wait for god to deliver it to my doorstep, I'll be walking to work for the rest of my life. OTOH, if I intend to have a new car and live my intent, it won't be long before my "prayers" are answered. Intent is the quantifiable force of energy which turns thoughtform into manifestation. No gods, deities or naguals required. Simple math.
12-16-2011, 12:02 AM
quantumshaman wrote:
Does intent answer your prayers? Sure. And a lot faster and more efficiently than any belief in "god". Why? Because intent is the force that lies behind do-ing. If I pray for a new car and wait for god to deliver it to my doorstep, I'll be walking to work for the rest of my life. OTOH, if I intend to have a new car and live my intent, it won't be long before my "prayers" are answered. Intent is the quantifiable force of energy which turns thoughtform into manifestation. No gods, deities or naguals required. Simple math. Agreed. If the practitioner has developed a working relationship with his intent, no need to pray, **** just happens. (Oh, and QS, you have my vote on canceling Xmas and bringing Santa out of the closet! )
01-02-2012, 12:02 AM
Perhaps some people lack the ability to think metaphorically. Such as people with aspergers or certain mental illnesses. To such a person the need for people and stories to be factual is a high level need...without which their ability to function breaks down.
01-14-2012, 12:02 AM
scout1 wrote:
Quantum Shaman: Be afraid, be very afraid ! Oh, boy! Sounds like such fun! What should I be afraid of so I can tremble at the proper times? *wink*
01-14-2012, 12:02 AM
Not like that, tell me, You should be afraid WHEN ?!
1) 2) 3) 4) 5)
01-14-2012, 12:02 AM
scout1 wrote:
Not like that, tell me, You should be afraid WHEN ?! 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) I'd be glad to answer, but I have no clue what you're talking about. Seriously. What is it you are asking?
01-14-2012, 12:02 AM
I have no clue, too. We are simply running off time. I have seen the end, no one was spared, not even the children.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
01-14-2012, 12:02 AM
scout1 wrote:
I have no clue, too. We are simply running off time. I have seen the end, no one was spared, not even the children. Be afraid. Be very afraid. Well, my friend... in THAT case, fear isn't going to help us much. Eventually, the world WILL end. It is a cosmological fact. Whether the 2012 predictions take us all out (doubtful) or a comet strikes the earth in the next thousand years (far more likely), there will be no appeal and no reprieve. So... IF you perceive that's what will happen, then only thing to do - really - is to take Death as your advisor and do everything in your power to achieve/inhabit the totality of yourself (whether now or at the moment of impact). I personally see no benefit in praying to imagined deities or cursing imagined demons. It's you, yourself and your double. Do what you will. Fear nothing. (There's no return on investment with fear, so why bother?) Live forever or die trying. QS |
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